Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

I'm sure way too many medals of this kind are handed out, but Tenent didn't invent the intel. It's the same intel that the Democrats used to vote to authorize 'use of force'. It's the same intel that the UN, our allies and others used to decide on WMDs in Iraq.

It's true that much of the intel was wrong. But it's also true that there was no way other than war to know that the intel was wrong.

I don't know if you are one of those that long for the days of Saddam's leadership.. But I'm not.

Rufus Loc: Deep South

Glaucon, I realize you are going to school and are having a good time thinking you are really achieving something and have an edge on the rest of us. When it comes down to the bone we all suffer and fall short of our ideals. Regardless of my cruel comments to you in the past I assume you are a good person. Sometimes we need to remember that most people are good at heart but that each and every one of us struggle with the evil within us.
I enjoyed college too and think I might even like to go back in this late stage of life.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Who do you find to have accurate news?

BTW - Your masters thank you for your programmed response to Rush, Limbaugh, Fox and Palin.

Anigav6969

Most news is biased,.....as long as you go in knowing that...it's okay by me....the only thing that's annoying about FOX is that they still call themselves " fair and balanced " that is a joke and an insult to everyone's intelligence...I would have more respect for them if they called themselves conservative TV...but I watch it often...I like to see what all sides say..

By the way, I was pleasantly surprised how megyn Kelly really gave a tough interview with Cheney...asked some tough questions...it was refreshing...I thought she deserved some praise for that

Glaucon

There are not too many Medals of Freedom being handed out. It is a very rare honor for those who make the very most positive contributions to the welfare of our country. It is the civilian equivalent of the military Medal of Honor. Do you think too many Medals of Honor are being “handed out.”

Tenet was responsible for obtaining accurate information. It was extremely important to get it right because the lives of 186,000 people depended on it. He was wrong and they died. That doesn’t sound like the kind of competency that would get you a wall plague or a certificate suitably for framing..

Everyone, other countries, Democrats, even I believed Bush’s misinformation. It seemed impossible that the greatest spy agency in history and in the world would not have accurate information on Iraq’s weaponry and it seemed in was unlikely that an American president could go to war on bogus information or that he would lie to his country and the world. The point is, everyone got their information from the same source: Tenet and Bush. Everyone trusted us and our president. Of course we all used the same information, it came from the same place and we trusted too much by everyone.

I do not long for Saddam’s leadership or George W. Bush’s “leadership, and I would be opposed to invading any of the other countries of whose leadership I do not approve.

My opinion is that Tenet was given the medal and other perks to keep him from blowing the whistle on Bush and cohorts and the real reasons for the invasion. However, you don’t sound like someone who can hear what is real and disregard the rest. However, I could be wrong about all of it.

Artemis

:shock: Wow invasion of the body snatchers, Can we keep this one :thumbup:

Anigav6969

I've read some info...and there are some good books on the subject that basically Cheney told the CIA...." We're going to war with Iraq" and then pressured them for intelligence to match what he was looking for...pretty lame

Rufus Loc: Deep South

God bless Fox News and Rush and Glenn Beck. WE must have truth. This is the only place we will find it.

Glaucon

I think the point is that, without exception, everyone and every source is biased. That included you and me. It is also a fact that we are not conscious of most of our biases.

Some, however, are paid to be biased in a particular direction. Democrats notice bias in Republican sources and Republicans notice bias in Democratic sources and neither notice it in their own sources. That is a very serious problem. However, these are my opinions and I could be wrong.

I think you made an attempt to insult me in your last sentence. Did you intend to insult me? What was your need that caused you to want to insult me?

The Dutchman

Super Dave wrote:
Who do you find to have accurate news?

BTW - Your masters thank you for your programmed response to Rush, Limbaugh, Fox and Palin.



Just where was the insult, He made a statement! Now he could be wrong but I doubt it....

Rufus Loc: Deep South

Do not get your little bitty feathers ruffled Glaucon. You are a gay queer and everybody acknowledges this my sweet friend.

Glaucon

Rufus,

I am not going to formal school at the present time. I am a life-long learner and I am actively involved in the school of life and will continue to be. I read widely and deeply and force myself to argue in my mind in favor of opinions I believe to be wrong so that I can more fully understand them and, perhaps, change my mind.

You think I am having a good time thinking I am really achieving something. Yes I do and I hope you do, also. I have found that people who are not achieving something often try to tear others down rather than build themselves up by really achieving something.

I believe you are a good person and I don’t think you have any evil within you. In my humble opinion, the only sin is to not know and want to continue to not know. That is the evil that will destroy us.
However, I could be wrong about all of it.

Rufus Loc: Deep South

Glaucon. Thank you and I have much more respect for you now. I am also only human. I am also guilty of many mistakes in life. Thank you for posting this.I will try to be more considerate of your posts in the future. I have to admit that I am drunk right now. I am sorry for this. I truly am. I hate this.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

I agree it's not 100% unbiased. Nobody is. But there isn't a more fair news source on the tube.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

I'm sorry. I thought my intent was obvious.

You made blanket claims about people using the same type of insulting rhetoric. I just thought that if you can pitch, you can also catch.

It was intended as tongue in cheek. I apologize for any personal offense you took.