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Vladimir Putin is a bad guy. He is an enemy of democracy — not just in Russia but also abroad.
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Feb 2, 2022 12:03:29   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You’re going need to stop buying their junk .
The Cost takes on a whole new meaning.
We already have an artificially inflated economy. Now, in order to manufacture things here the costs would be prohibitive.
Our rich overlords won’t help.
It has to be the government’s job to straighten things out.
This is hung up again in the Senate by big money buying their own decisions. Not yours.
Artificial inflation is still artificially true.
The massive amounts of cash being hidden in garages is an obvious problem.
Money is needed to get this train back on the tracks. It’s been a breeze watching everything going away for the past 40+ years , now we have a problem.
You’re going need to stop buying their junk . br T... (show quote)


Government could start with deregulation and reducing all taxes and spending.

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Feb 2, 2022 17:51:42   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Your delusions are clouding your comprehensive skills.
Aside from you , nobody believes in Your boogiemen.


I do.

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Feb 2, 2022 20:29:13   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
You don't like Putin? Stop voting for him.


Thank you

We did. With great gusto. "He" lost by several million votes :)

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Feb 2, 2022 21:04:00   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Thank you

We did. With great gusto. "He" lost by several million votes :)


And gee gee ping won by several million.

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Feb 3, 2022 07:46:01   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Thank you

We did. With great gusto. "He" lost by several million votes :)




What????? Y'all run out of dead Russians to use, or just figuring out that being able spell gooder is potent when forging names? ...... ..... thats not covered in the liberal gender bender afro Murikan studies...... check the new green deal, maybe its in there for your idiots to xpand the fraud you once excelled at..... after all, Y'all did get millions of votes somewhere. ..... and a great choice to lead your failure brigade, and you have black chick to blame it on..... hint, save her slave owning family info to use with your woke goobers and take her down with your blame shame.

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Feb 3, 2022 07:47:42   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Your delusions are clouding your comprehensive skills.
Aside from you , nobody believes in Your boogiemen.




Its not possible for you to be that ignorant....... or is it?

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Feb 3, 2022 17:48:07   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
archie bunker wrote:
You don't like Putin? Stop voting for him.


Let me get this right, Putin hates Democracy , are you still with me,?
An avowed Communist hates democracy .
Yet we keep butting heads with the right about democrats being communists.
Or Marxists.
When in truth Putin would’ve laughed you off the planet for thinking such a thing.

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Feb 9, 2022 15:30:50   #
Antimarxist21
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Vladimir Putin is a bad guy. He is an enemy of democracy — not just in Russia but also abroad. He despises a free press and has journalists killed. He has used his position of power to enrich himself and, under his authoritarian rule, Russia has been a destabilizing force in the world. Finally, he seems to be pursuing a vision of reassembling the pieces of the former Soviet Union and restoring it to its place among global superpowers.

In short, he doesn’t sound like the kind of guy you would want around… and certainly not leading a country with a massive nuclear arsenal, right? Right???

Well, actually, that does not seem to be entirely true. For many elites, from politicians in Washington to film studio executives in Hollywood — as well as every defense contractor in between — Putin’s Russia, just like the Soviet Union before it, has been a virtual gold mine.

For 75 years, Russia has been a convenient villain, always available for justifying bloated defense budgets, smearing political opponents as “communists,” and making movies featuring bad guys with bad accents who would not offend any any paying audiences (or those financing these films, such as China or Saudi Arabia).

As a result, it’s hardly surprising that little effort has been made to turn Russia into a more productive member of the global community in the three decades since the Soviet Union was dissolved… and we have all been paying the price since then.

Don’t take it from us. Testifying before Congress in 2003, Michael McFaul, who would later go on to become US ambassador to Russia, said:

If Russia consolidates a liberal democracy at home, then I have no doubt that Russia will develop into a reliable and lasting ally of the United States in world affairs. If Russia fails to consolidate liberal democracy at home, then Russia may still be a cooperative partner of the United States occasionally and sporadically, but always with conflicts. If Russia lapses back into dictatorship, U.S.-Russian relations will become strained, competitive, and possibly even confrontational again as they were for most of the twentieth century.

And here we are… in part because Russia has been more valuable as an enemy than an ally.

Victory Day military parade, Moscow, 2021
Victory Day military parade marking the 76th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany in World War II, in Moscow’s Red Square on May 9, 2021. Photo credit: © Vyacheslav Prokofyev/TASS via ZUMA Press

Granted, there is no guarantee that a campaign to integrate Russia into a Western-liberal world order would have been successful. In fact, there are reasons to believe that it would not have been a full success. For example, other former Soviet republics and Warsaw Pact nations continue to struggle with democracy — even those like Poland and Hungary that became part of the European Union.

In addition, it was probably a traumatizing experience for Russia, a country with a long tradition of fervent patriotism, to go from superpower to a “has-been” (albeit one with lots of nuclear weapons and substantial fossil fuel reserves). It is very possible that this shared sentiment would have stood in the way of a “westernization.”

Great Britain, for example, still has not come to terms with transitioning from “The Empire” to a European regional power, which partially explains its recent Brexit. The country never fully learned to be part of the team that it was used to dominating for centuries.

Still, in the case of Russia, even some integration would have been better than none. There are a few recent examples proving this can work.

Although it was an expensive and massive undertaking, Germany went from supervillain to democracy in four years. It took slightly longer (seven years) for Japan to hold its first post-occupation elections.

Since then, even though they had committed some of the worst atrocities in history during World War II, these two countries have become stable democracies and engines of global economic growth.

Of course, both unconditionally surrendered to triumphant adversaries and underwent years-long occupations, while the Soviet Union just fell apart. Yet, it’s conceivable that offering economic incentives in exchange for Russia’s surrendering its nuclear arsenal and initiating pro-democracy reforms could have worked.

Germany, by the way, is not only the poster child of how to reintegrate a country into the global community but also, in an earlier era, offered a cautionary example of what not to do.

After World War I, an extremely nationalistic Germany was forced to give up territory and pay crippling restitutions. Fifteen years later, after briefly dabbling in democracy, Germany fell under the spell of Adolf Hitler, who seized power by playing the victim and promising to return Germany to its previous greatness. Shortly thereafter, the Third Reich began reclaiming the territories it had lost and, ultimately, plunged the world into an even worse war.

Hitler, Prague Castle, 1939
Hitler on his visit to Prague Castle after the establishment of the German protectorate on March 16, 1939. Photo credit: Mirmircze / Wikimedia (CC BY-SA 4.0)

If you compare Russia’s situation to the two German experiments, it’s pretty clear that it is a lot more like the one that failed and produced another world war: Financially crippled by the Cold War, Russia ceded territory, and its national pride took a severe beating.

In addition, NATO quickly expanded to its doorstep by accepting several former Warsaw Pact nations in what many viewed as a rush to action that alienated Moscow.

Out of the resulting chaos and a brief flirt with something resembling democracy, a strongman emerged who has played the victim, promised to make things better, and tried to claw back some of the territory that was lost.

Again, this is not meant to be a defense of what Putin’s Russia has done or is doing. But maybe it didn’t have to be this way. It is at least possible that, in part, he is playing the role that the US wanted him to play because the hawks in Washington needed a villain after the Cold War had come to an end.

And that brings us to the present day and Russia’s looming attack on Ukraine. It is quite clear that Europe and the US can’t really do anything to stop the invasion. Militarily, this would be too costly because, while it has fallen behind in other areas, Russia still possesses the armed forces of a superpower.

Sanctions also won’t work… at least not well enough. On the one hand, Europe is too dependent on Russian energy, and on the other, Putin has been “sanction-proofing” his economy for years.

The only thing that gives authoritarian rulers like him pause is an uprising from within — for example, if the Russian population were to turn on his regime for expending the blood of Russian soldiers on an unpopular military adventure. Keep in mind that the bar for getting (and sustaining) public support for a war is quite high.

Just look at recent examples from US history: It took the attack on Pearl Harbor to draw the US into an ongoing global conflict. In Vietnam, things gradually escalated until public sentiment turned sharply against the war and forced the US to withdraw. 9/11 was enough to trigger the attack on Afghanistan, but it took a campaign of lies to get the public on board with the invasion of Iraq.

At the same time, the West is making things much easier for Putin in this regard. It’s not just the bellicose rhetoric from leaders like Boris Johnson (which stands in stark contrast to that of Ukrainian officials), but also how Russia is always portrayed as the villain in American popular culture. For somebody who controls the media, as Putin does, it is very easy to spin all of this to make it look as though Russia is simply responding to Western aggression.

This strategy clearly works: In a recent poll, only 4 percent of Russians said their country is to blame for the escalating tensions in Ukraine.

However, in spite of that reality-defying figure, most Russians do not believe that there will be a war. To stop one from breaking out, the West’s strategy should be to win the hearts and minds of these Russians instead of vilifying them.
Vladimir Putin is a bad guy. He is an enemy of dem... (show quote)


Do u actually understand what you cut and pasted? For your sake, I hope so.

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Feb 9, 2022 15:37:15   #
Antimarxist21
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Our Federal Government is composed of…
You !
Take your power back. You should be telling the corporations what to do, not Vice versa .
You had the power when this country started. So , what happened ?
Somebody gave it all away .
Not the Dems, not the Republican,
Not the middle class not the kindergarten teachers, but ,
Who ?
We, like frogs in pots, enjoyed the warm water , until now when it got too ffing hot.
So , now is not a time to blame
Anyone.
Now is a time to target what our losses were and bring them back.
We have the power. But as long as we continue squabbling among ourselves ,
Nothing gets done , and they win.
Not you ,not me, …. they win !
As they are winning today mostly on a platform based on lies.
American Up !
Boys and Girls!!!!
It’s time to
American Up !!!!!
Not commies , not fascists
All Americans.!
Our Federal Government is composed of… br You ! br... (show quote)


Why don't u impart your wisdom to all.these people and corporations?

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Feb 9, 2022 15:44:00   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Milosia2 wrote:
He’s a communist !
Are. You aware of that.?
I mean a real communist , not a made up American communist/ Marxist boogieman !



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Feb 11, 2022 16:29:15   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
martsiva wrote:
Who are you kidding? You support the Democrats who OPENLY supported the Marxist communist BLM!! So - what does that make you???


You make up this crap and then say it’s real .
Your days are ending.
Better geterdone !

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Feb 11, 2022 16:30:54   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
martsiva wrote:
Who are you kidding? You support the Democrats who OPENLY supported the Marxist communist BLM!! So - what does that make you???


They also supported working Men , women ,
Childcare , school lunches for those less fortunate.

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Feb 11, 2022 16:31:44   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Antimarxist21 wrote:
Do u actually understand what you cut and pasted? For your sake, I hope so.


Apparent you don’t.
Do you understand what I posted.?
Putin can’t be both ,
a democratic communist ?
That’s ffing ridiculous!
Therefore neither can we !
But youz will always be Nazis.
Also enemies if democracy.

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Feb 11, 2022 18:38:18   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You make up this crap and then say it’s real .
Your days are ending.
Better geterdone !


You are ignorant or a bold face liar when you deny what the whole country saw when the Democrats sitting on that stage with their pretty little African scarves in support of the Marxist communist BLM!! It was front page news!!! Are you denying that Democrats did this and then sat and did nothing while BLM and anti-fa thugs rioted and did major damage to cities in this country?? Were you living under your little rock when all of these things happened?? No - the ilk that you follow - their days are ending which includes heir pawns like you!!

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Feb 12, 2022 19:35:20   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Apparent you don’t.
Do you understand what I posted.?
Putin can’t be both ,
a democratic communist ?
That’s ffing ridiculous!
Therefore neither can we !
But youz will always be Nazis.
Also enemies if democracy.


Enemies of Democracy come in BOTH flavors; R and D

Endless War Explained In 2 Minutes

https://youtu.be/z2hRRGHBeSw

The Council on Foreign Relations - James Perloff Exposes the CFR Agenda - Corbett Report
https://youtu.be/VT3BzYUZpo4


This is how the take over of BOTH parties was achieved:


Both party “leaderships” have been partners in the International Banker’s NWO/NeoCON Agenda
Both parties have promoted - NWO Fascism/Warfare & NWO Socialism (international bank funding and bailouts by taxpayers)
Both parties have been partners in working for the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bankers. “OUR” Government bailed the Banksters out, and left the citizens/taxpayers holding the bag for Trillions.
Both parties have promoted perpetual “war”. Just pay attention to Obama’s Foreign policy; Same as the NeoCON’s foreign policy of perpetual wars; based on the phony “War on Terrorism”.
The election fixers have been trying to put it in place again, to eliminate all other non-owned candidates.
The banker controlled media (FOX,CNN,CBS.NBC, and ABC do all they can to install another CFR puppet. Just go to You Tube to see the prejudice and party corruption used against Ron Paul. The owned media, with their Talking Bobble Heads, are full partners in our nation’s sell out to a world socialist/fascist dictatorship run by wannabe slave masters.
Who will open their eyes and wake up others?
Some CFR commentary
http://www.alpheus.org/html/source_materials/parapolitics/CFR_NWO.htm

The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today,CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
________________________________________
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
CFR Roster Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d

BTW; Trump was the first president in decades that did not fill his cabinet with globalist CFR members.

And people wonder why our industries were shipped off shore.
It was policy.

A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:

Both Bushes - CFR,B (R)
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR (D)
Obama CFR (D)
Joseph R. Biden, Jr. CFR/88 (D)

Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Condoleezza Rice CFR/84 (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
H. Kissinger - CFR,TC,BB ( R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D)
Alan Greenspan CFR,TC, BB
Ben Bernanke - BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
George Soros - CFR,BB
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB
Jerome H. Powell (Fed Chairman) CFR

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