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Jan 30, 2022 13:42:25   #
American Vet
 
336Robin wrote:
So that is they way you see it? You don't believe the when our bridges are literally falling down that the
infrastructure bill was for a real purpose?

I am sorry you believe that.


Is all of the money in the BBB going completely to infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc.)?

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Jan 30, 2022 14:01:21   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
American Vet wrote:
Is all of the money in the BBB going completely to infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc.)?


The comlete anit-america crowd on the right wing seems to confuse two bills and not know that is what we have, one passed for infrastructure and one leaving the citizens hanging for the future.

https://www.investopedia.com/here-s-what-s-in-the-usd1-trillion-infrastructure-bill-passed-by-the-senate-5196817

ECONOMY GOVERNMENT & POLICY
Understanding the Infrastructure Bills
Bipartisan bill signed, Build Back Better passes House—what could happen next
By JIM PROBASCO Updated January 17, 2022
NEWS ALERT January 14, 2021, 3:27 p.m. EST: On Friday, the White House announced an initiative to improve 15,000 bridges across the country. Over $27 billion will be distributed to states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and tribes over the next five years.1

"Generations from now, people will look back and know this is when America won the economic competition for the 21st century," said President Joe Biden in a statement released late Fri., Nov. 5, 2021, shortly after the House of Representatives passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act by a 228-to-206 vote. Thirteen Republicans and all but six of the House Democrats voted for the bill and sent it to the president's desk to be signed into law.2

The president signed it on Nov. 15.3


Progressives had threatened to vote against the measure but, at the last minute, agreed to support it after moderates promised they would back the companion social safety net and climate bill, officially known as the Build Back Better Act (BBBA)—provided an upcoming cost score by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) showed that the plan would not add to the budget deficit.

KEY TAKEAWAYS
Infrastructure—originally used to designate building and repairing road, bridges, railroads, and ports—has been expanded under President Biden to include human or social infrastructure.
This resulted in two infrastructure bills: the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, agreed to on a bipartisan basis, that deals with traditional infrastructure, and a second, called the Build Back Better Act, which deals with social infrastructure.
The $1.2 trillion bipartisan bill was held up—first by Democratic progressives who insisted that the $3.5 trillion Build Back Better agenda bill pass first, then by Democratic moderates who demanded additional Congressional Budget Office costing of that bill.
On Oct. 28, 2021, President Biden announced a framework for a new scaled-down $1.75+ trillion Build Back Better agenda (later appraised by the CBO at $2.3 trillion), in hopes the announcement would encourage progressives to vote for the bipartisan bill.
On Nov. 5, 2021, the stalemate ended, at least temporarily, when progressives agreed to vote for the bipartisan bill and moderates promised to vote for Build Back Better provided CBO scoring shows no increase in the deficit.
On Nov. 15, the president signed the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act.
CBO estimates of the cost of the Build Back Better Act were released Nov. 18.
On Nov. 19, the House passed the Build Back Better legislation and sent it to the Senate. As of mid-January 2022, the bill still hadn't passed the Senate.

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Jan 30, 2022 14:03:35   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
American Vet wrote:
Is all of the money in the BBB going completely to infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc.)?




The need to know for the right wingers will never end..

More facts that you people do not like.. chew on it!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What's in the $1.2 Trillion Bipartisan Bill
The 2,702-page Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which has not changed, contains just $550 billion in new spending. The $1.2 trillion figure comes from including additional funding normally allocated each year for highways and other infrastructure projects. The new spending includes:15


$110 billion for roads and bridges. In addition to construction and repair, the funding also helps pay for transportation research at universities, funding for Puerto Rico’s highways, and “congestion relief” in American cities.

$66 billion for railroads. Funding includes upgrades and maintenance of America’s passenger rail system and freight rail safety, but nothing for high-speed rail.

$65 billion for the power grid. The bill would fund updates to power lines and cables, as well as provide money to prevent hacking of the power grid. Clean energy funding is also included.

$65 billion for broadband. Includes funding to expand broadband in rural areas and in low-income communities. Approximately $14 billion of the total would help reduce Internet bills for low-income citizens.

$55 billion for water infrastructure. This funding includes $15 billion for lead pipe replacement, $10 billion for chemical cleanup, and money to provide clean drinking water in tribal communities.

$50+ billion for cybersecurity and climate change. This resilience funding will protect infrastructure from cybersecurity attacks and address flooding, wildfires, coastal erosion, and droughts along with other extreme weather events.

$39 billion for public transit. Funding here provides for upgrades to public transit systems nationwide. The allocation also includes money to create new bus routes and help make public transit more accessible to seniors and disabled Americans.

$25 billion for airports. This allocation provides funding for major upgrades and expansions at U.S. airports. Air traffic control towers and systems would receive $5 billion of the total for upgrades.

$21 billion for the environment. These monies would be used to clean up superfund and brownfield sites, abandoned mines, and old oil and gas wells.

$17 billion for ports. Half of the funds in this category would go to the Army Corps of Engineers for port infrastructure. Additional funds would go to the Coast Guard, ferry terminals, and reduction of truck emissions at ports.

$11 billion for safety. Appropriations here are to address highway, pedestrian, pipeline, and other safety areas with highway safety getting the bulk of the funding.

$8 billion for western water infrastructure. Ongoing drought conditions in the western half of the country will be addressed through investments in water treatment, storage, and reuse facilities.

$7.5 bill for electric vehicle charging stations. The Biden administration asked for this funding to build significantly more charging stations for electric vehicles across the nation.

$7.5 billion for electric school buses. With an emphasis on bus fleet replacement in low-income, rural, and tribal communities, this funding is expected to allow those communities to convert to zero-emission buses.
What's in—and Not in—the $2.3 Trillion Scaled-Down Democratic Proposal
The outline below shows what in the Build Back Better Act has survived negotiations (so far) and what has not.164

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Jan 30, 2022 14:08:38   #
Old Thinker
 
The infrastructure bill was sold as just that but only a fraction will be spent on real infrastructure... it was mostly dedicated to other things... our bridges and roads should be maintained through existing taxes that are squandered... someone please explain to me why a state is entitled to charge a fee to use a federal highway.. corruption and misuse of funds... what we really need is an accurate audit of the taxes we pay before we allocate more money.. Don't be surprised to hear the left in ten years or so make the same claim about many of the same bridges...

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Jan 30, 2022 14:19:47   #
Old Thinker
 
Old Thinker wrote:
The infrastructure bill was sold as just that but only a fraction will be spent on real infrastructure... it was mostly dedicated to other things... our bridges and roads should be maintained through existing taxes that are squandered... someone please explain to me why a state is entitled to charge a fee to use a federal highway.. corruption and misuse of funds... what we really need is an accurate audit of the taxes we pay before we allocate more money.. Don't be surprised to hear the left in ten years or so make the same claim about many of the same bridges...
The infrastructure bill was sold as just that but ... (show quote)


You just laid out the reasons that the federal government shouldn't be involved in local issues... who do you think paid for the existing water infrastructure?... roads and bridges... etc. etc... so why is it the obligation of the federal government to fix everything in the country?... sounds like socialism to me...

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Jan 30, 2022 14:21:14   #
Old Thinker
 
permafrost wrote:
The need to know for the right wingers will never end..

More facts that you people do not like.. chew on it!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What's in the $1.2 Trillion Bipartisan Bill
The 2,702-page Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which has not changed, contains just $550 billion in new spending. The $1.2 trillion figure comes from including additional funding normally allocated each year for highways and other infrastructure projects. The new spending includes:15


$110 billion for roads and bridges. In addition to construction and repair, the funding also helps pay for transportation research at universities, funding for Puerto Rico’s highways, and “congestion relief” in American cities.

$66 billion for railroads. Funding includes upgrades and maintenance of America’s passenger rail system and freight rail safety, but nothing for high-speed rail.

$65 billion for the power grid. The bill would fund updates to power lines and cables, as well as provide money to prevent hacking of the power grid. Clean energy funding is also included.

$65 billion for broadband. Includes funding to expand broadband in rural areas and in low-income communities. Approximately $14 billion of the total would help reduce Internet bills for low-income citizens.

$55 billion for water infrastructure. This funding includes $15 billion for lead pipe replacement, $10 billion for chemical cleanup, and money to provide clean drinking water in tribal communities.

$50+ billion for cybersecurity and climate change. This resilience funding will protect infrastructure from cybersecurity attacks and address flooding, wildfires, coastal erosion, and droughts along with other extreme weather events.

$39 billion for public transit. Funding here provides for upgrades to public transit systems nationwide. The allocation also includes money to create new bus routes and help make public transit more accessible to seniors and disabled Americans.

$25 billion for airports. This allocation provides funding for major upgrades and expansions at U.S. airports. Air traffic control towers and systems would receive $5 billion of the total for upgrades.

$21 billion for the environment. These monies would be used to clean up superfund and brownfield sites, abandoned mines, and old oil and gas wells.

$17 billion for ports. Half of the funds in this category would go to the Army Corps of Engineers for port infrastructure. Additional funds would go to the Coast Guard, ferry terminals, and reduction of truck emissions at ports.

$11 billion for safety. Appropriations here are to address highway, pedestrian, pipeline, and other safety areas with highway safety getting the bulk of the funding.

$8 billion for western water infrastructure. Ongoing drought conditions in the western half of the country will be addressed through investments in water treatment, storage, and reuse facilities.

$7.5 bill for electric vehicle charging stations. The Biden administration asked for this funding to build significantly more charging stations for electric vehicles across the nation.

$7.5 billion for electric school buses. With an emphasis on bus fleet replacement in low-income, rural, and tribal communities, this funding is expected to allow those communities to convert to zero-emission buses.
What's in—and Not in—the $2.3 Trillion Scaled-Down Democratic Proposal
The outline below shows what in the Build Back Better Act has survived negotiations (so far) and what has not.164
The need to know for the right wingers will never ... (show quote)


You just laid out the reasons that the federal government shouldn't be involved in local issues... who do you think paid for the existing water infrastructure?... roads and bridges... etc. etc... so why is it the obligation of the federal government to fix everything in the country?... sounds like socialism to me..

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Jan 30, 2022 14:22:39   #
JW
 
336Robin wrote:
He is being tried as we speak. In the court of public opinion.


Another kangaroo court lacking jurisdiction and jurisprudence.

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Jan 30, 2022 14:32:00   #
Justice101
 
Old Thinker wrote:
The infrastructure bill was sold as just that but only a fraction will be spent on real infrastructure... it was mostly dedicated to other things... our bridges and roads should be maintained through existing taxes that are squandered... someone please explain to me why a state is entitled to charge a fee to use a federal highway.. corruption and misuse of funds... what we really need is an accurate audit of the taxes we pay before we allocate more money.. Don't be surprised to hear the left in ten years or so make the same claim about many of the same bridges...
The infrastructure bill was sold as just that but ... (show quote)




Why are many of the toll roads in terrible condition compared to non-toll highways? Are the tolls to pay the toll collectors at the toll booths?

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Jan 30, 2022 14:34:00   #
American Vet
 
permafrost wrote:
The comlete anit-america crowd on the right wing seems to confuse two bills and not know that is what we have, one passed for infrastructure and one leaving the citizens hanging for the future.

https://www.investopedia.com/here-s-what-s-in-the-usd1-trillion-infrastructure-bill-passed-by-the-senate-5196817

ECONOMY GOVERNMENT & POLICY
Understanding the Infrastructure Bills
Bipartisan bill signed, Build Back Better passes House—what could happen next
By JIM PROBASCO Updated January 17, 2022
NEWS ALERT January 14, 2021, 3:27 p.m. EST: On Friday, the White House announced an initiative to improve 15,000 bridges across the country. Over $27 billion will be distributed to states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and tribes over the next five years.1

"Generations from now, people will look back and know this is when America won the economic competition for the 21st century," said President Joe Biden in a statement released late Fri., Nov. 5, 2021, shortly after the House of Representatives passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act by a 228-to-206 vote. Thirteen Republicans and all but six of the House Democrats voted for the bill and sent it to the president's desk to be signed into law.2

The president signed it on Nov. 15.3


Progressives had threatened to vote against the measure but, at the last minute, agreed to support it after moderates promised they would back the companion social safety net and climate bill, officially known as the Build Back Better Act (BBBA)—provided an upcoming cost score by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) showed that the plan would not add to the budget deficit.

KEY TAKEAWAYS
Infrastructure—originally used to designate building and repairing road, bridges, railroads, and ports—has been expanded under President Biden to include human or social infrastructure.
This resulted in two infrastructure bills: the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, agreed to on a bipartisan basis, that deals with traditional infrastructure, and a second, called the Build Back Better Act, which deals with social infrastructure.
The $1.2 trillion bipartisan bill was held up—first by Democratic progressives who insisted that the $3.5 trillion Build Back Better agenda bill pass first, then by Democratic moderates who demanded additional Congressional Budget Office costing of that bill.
On Oct. 28, 2021, President Biden announced a framework for a new scaled-down $1.75+ trillion Build Back Better agenda (later appraised by the CBO at $2.3 trillion), in hopes the announcement would encourage progressives to vote for the bipartisan bill.
On Nov. 5, 2021, the stalemate ended, at least temporarily, when progressives agreed to vote for the bipartisan bill and moderates promised to vote for Build Back Better provided CBO scoring shows no increase in the deficit.
On Nov. 15, the president signed the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act.
CBO estimates of the cost of the Build Back Better Act were released Nov. 18.
On Nov. 19, the House passed the Build Back Better legislation and sent it to the Senate. As of mid-January 2022, the bill still hadn't passed the Senate.
The comlete anit-america crowd on the right wing s... (show quote)


When I want your idiotic input, I will send a message to "Imbeciles Inc." and they can forward it to you - you pathetic CLPOS.

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Jan 30, 2022 14:36:30   #
JW
 
Milosia2 wrote:
We don’t have one now. Mostly because of the crybabies on the right.
The minority lost.
The minority always loses , there is no way the minority can win because….
They are the minority!
Trumpers are contained in 30% of the Republican Party.
This is not enough to win an election.
Resorting to Lying , Cheating or Stealing is not fair to legal valid voters.
For what I see , youz are doing nothing to capture hearts , minds and votes from anyone.
Whining and crying about 2020 still has become redundant.most have accepted trumps loss , but there are those unfortunates that are incapable of moving on. Bless their Hearts.
We don’t have one now. Mostly because of the cryba... (show quote)


If Trump really lost, why is the Left refusing to verify it? I would think a quick, lawful confirmation of Biden's win would be something you would want. Look how gleeful you were when the AZ audit confirmed the number of ballots. Unfortunately, the number of ballots was never in question; the legality of them was in question and still is...but at least some legal scrutiny is taking place, finally.

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Jan 30, 2022 14:37:57   #
American Vet
 
JW wrote:
If Trump really lost, why is the Left refusing to verify it? I would think a quick, lawful confirmation of Biden's win would be something you would want. Look how gleeful you were when the AZ audit confirmed the number of ballots. Unfortunately, the number of ballots was never in question; the legality of them was in question and still is...but at least some legal scrutiny is taking place, finally.


LOL

That's what many people are saying since day 1 - if you believe biden really won, you would demand s complete audit and scrutiny to put everyone's mind to rest......

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Jan 30, 2022 14:40:02   #
JW
 
American Vet wrote:
LOL

That's what many people are saying since day 1 - if you believe biden really won, you would demand s complete audit and scrutiny to put everyone's mind to rest......


One would certainly think so!

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Jan 30, 2022 15:59:51   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
336Robin wrote:
So that is they way you see it? You don't believe the when our bridges are literally falling down that the
infrastructure bill was for a real purpose?

I am sorry you believe that.


No, I do believe in infrastructure bills. That stand alone and MUST be used for that purpose ONLY.

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Jan 30, 2022 16:41:46   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
microphor wrote:
No, I do believe in infrastructure bills. That stand alone and MUST be used for that purpose ONLY.


But that is not how politics works. Politicians need something for their benefactors before they will vote for any legislation. Politicians are bought and paid for by greedy entities and must pay back their pipers with favors, ie: pork barrel amendments.

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Jan 30, 2022 16:58:35   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
American Vet wrote:
Is all of the money in the BBB going completely to infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc.)?


Did all of the PPP loans go to struggling people?

This whole ask a question form of whataboutism has two sides.

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