woodguru

Talk to any devout right winger, and the Obama economy was a disaster, Obama virtually destroyed the economy. Now unfortunately any discussion with anyone that is such a moron they would say that Obama destroyed the economy has to be very carefully navigated...or it becomes a fight when you try to be honest about such stupidity

Okay, but play with reality and hold retarded people accountable and the questions would look like this...
...what are you comparing this terrible performance with, the Bush economy? Because that makes Obama look like a true god of finance and policy.
...Bush lost 25 million jobs, Obama only put 14 million back on?
...Unemployment was at 11% under Bush, Obama only reduced it to 5% during his eight years/
...The housing market prices were back and they were selling faster than people were listing them
...The stock market had been consistently breaking new records and continued that trend under trump, but to hear trumpers talk they had made all this money during a trump economy

...Bush was losing 800,000 jobs a month when Obama took over
...25% of the homes in the country were being foreclosed on
...the stock market was in the crapper, Americans Lost upwards of $25 Trillion dollars
...
...
...you get the idea, there are more indicators that support a strong economy

To talk to a right winger that believes Obama destroyed the economy they literally have to be experiencing a form of their brain being dead during that whole period, it's gone and the economy didn't "come back" from the way Obama had destroyed it until trump took office, whereupon he performed one of the most miraculous turnarounds in the history of the country. Ask one what about the way Bush devastated the economy and that gets shut down with one of the forms of "here we go, blaming it on Bush"...yes, Bush trashed the economy

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

That's some great cherry pickin there.
How can you study economic figures without looking at Inflation numbers?

microphor Loc: Home is TN

Hahahaha, keep at it b.zo, we need the laughs

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I liked how Obama handled his pandemic best: wash your hands, cough into your sleeves, take your vitamins, drink plenty of water.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

Actually Obama oversaw a lackluster economy at best. After a brief recovery from the great recession Obama's policies restrained growth. Without fracking and the energy sector, which the democrats tried and failed to kill with regulation and cap and trade laws, the economy would have looked even worse. Obama's increase in regulations, tax and threats of tax increases, pushing cap and trade laws, expensive and unpredictable Obamacare, and many other capitalism killing initiatives kept the economy from meaningful growth. His policies kept companies from taking risks in an uncertain environment. Trump used that failure to push deregulation and capital investment which opened the economy up. At least until Covid came along. The environment that Biden is pushing will repeat the Obama anemic economy at best. If Biden succeeds in killing fossil fuels things will be much worse.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

That's right, agree

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Hey woodhead, let’s talk about Obama’s “fantastic leadership” abilities. In almost every respect, Obama left behind a trail of failure and disappointment. Consider just some of his works:

In 2010, two years after electing him president, voters trounced Obama’s party, handing Democrats the biggest midterm losses in 72 years. Obama was reelected in 2012, but by nearly 4 million fewer votes than in his first election, making him the only president ever to win a second term with shrunken margins in both the popular and electoral vote. Two years later, with Obama imploring voters, “[My] policies are on the ballot — every single one of them,” Democrats were clobbered again. And in 2016, as he campaigned hard for Hillary Clinton, Obama was increasingly adamant that his legacy was at stake. “I’m not on this ballot,” he told campaign rallies in a frequent refrain, “but everything we’ve done these last eight years is on the ballot.” The voters heard him out, and once more turned him down.

As a political leader, Obama was a disaster for his party. During his administration, roughly 1,100 elected Democrats nationwide were ousted by Republicans and Democrats lost their majorities in the US House and Senate. When Obama left, Democrats held just 18 of the 50 governorships, and only 31 of the nation’s 99 state legislative chambers. After eight years under Obama, the GOP was stronger than at any time since the 1920s, and the outgoing president’s party was in tatters.

Obama urged Americans to cast their votes as a thumbs-up or thumbs-down on his legacy. That’s what they did.

The economy
Obama took office during a painful recession and (with Congress’s help) made it even worse. Historically, the deeper a recession, the more robust the recovery that follows, but the economy’s rebound under Obama was the worst in seven decades. Annual GDP growth after the recession ended averaged a feeble 2.1 percent, by far the puniest economic performance of any president since World War II.

Obama spent more public funds on “stimulus” than all previous stimulus programs combined, with wretched, counterproductive results. On his watch, millions of additional Americans fell below the poverty line. The number of food stamp recipients soared. The national debt doubled to an incredible $20 trillion. And the share of young adults (18- to 34-year-olds) living in their parents’ homes was the highest since the Great Depression.

In 2008, when Obama was first elected president, 63 percent of Americans considered themselves middle class. Seven years later, only 51 percent still felt the same way. Obama argued energetically that his economic policies delivered prosperity and employment. But countless people disagreed — including many who weren’t Republican. “Millions and millions and millions and millions of people look at that pretty picture of America he painted,” said Bill Clinton after Obama extolled the recovery in his last State of the Union speech, “and they cannot find themselves in it to save their lives.”

Health care
The Affordable Care Act should never have been enacted. Survey after survey confirmed that it lacked majority support, and only through hard-knuckled, party-line maneuvering was the wrenching health-care overhaul rammed through Congress. But Obama was certain the measure would win public support, because of three lies he made over and over:

• that the law would extend health insurance to the 47 million uninsured
• that it would significantly reduce health insurance costs
• and that Americans who had health plans or doctors they liked could keep them

But Obamacare has been a fiasco. At the end of his term, at least 27 million Americans were still without health insurance, and many of those who were newly insured were simply added to the Medicaid rolls. Far from reducing costs, Obamacare sent premiums and deductibles skyrocketing. Insurance companies, having suffered billions of dollars in losses on the Obamacare exchanges, pulled out from many of them, leaving consumers in much of the country with few or no options. And the administration, it transpired, knew all along that millions of Americans would lose their medical plans once the law took effect. The deception was so egregious that in December 2013, PolitiFact dubbed “If you like your health plan, you can keep it” as its “Lie of the Year.”

Foreign policy
Obama came to office vowing not to repeat the foreign-policy mistakes of his predecessor. His own were exponentially worse.

In his rush to pull US troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, he created a power vacuum into which terror networks expanded and the Taliban revived. Islamic State’s jihadist savagery not only plunged a stabilized Iraq back into shuddering violence, but also inspired scores of lethal terrorist attacks in the West. For months, Obama and his lieutenants insisted that Syrian dictator Bashar Assad could be induced to “reform,” and pointedly refused to intervene as an uprising against him metastasized into genocidal slaughter. At last Obama vowed to take action if Assad crossed a “red line” by deploying chemical weapons — but when those weapons were used, Obama blinked. The death toll in Syria climbed into the hundreds of thousands, triggering a flood of refugees greater than any the world had seen since the 1940s.

Determined to conciliate America’s adversaries, Obama indulged dictatorial regimes in Iran, Russia, and Cuba. They in turn exploited his passivity with multiple treacheries — seizing Crimea and destroying Aleppo (Russia), abducting American hostages for ransom and illicitly testing long-range missiles (Iran), and cracking down mercilessly on democratic dissidents (Cuba).

For eight years the nation was led by a president intent on lowering America’s global profile, not projecting military power, and “leading from behind.” The consequences were stark by the end of his term:

• a Middle East awash in blood and bombs
• US troops re-embroiled in Iraq and Afghanistan
• aggressive dictators ascendant
• human rights and democracy in retreat
• rivers of refugees destabilizing nations across three continents
• and the rise of neo-fascism in Europe and the erosion of US credibility to its lowest level since the Carter years

National unity
As a candidate for president, Obama promised to soothe America’s bitter and divisive politics, and to replace red state/blue state animosity with cooperation and bipartisanship. But the healer-in-chief millions of Americans voted for never showed up.

According to Gallup, Obama became the most polarizing president in modern history. Like all presidents, he faced partisan opposition, but Obama worsened things by regularly taking the low road and disparaging his critics’ motives. In his own words, his political strategy was one of ruthless escalation: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” During his 2012 reelection campaign, Politico reported that “Obama and his top campaign aides have engaged far more frequently in character attacks and personal insults than the Romney campaign.” And when a Republican-led Congress wouldn’t enact legislation he sought, Obama turned to his “pen and phone” strategy of governing by diktat that polarized politics even more.

Obama’s accession in 2008 as the nation’s first elected black president was an achievement that even Republicans and conservatives could cheer. It could have marked a moment of hope and transformation if it had genuinely changed America for the better. It could have been the high point of Obama’s presidency. But alas, what followed, was eight long years of disenchantment and incompetence. His presidency made our world more dangerous, further divided our country, and made our national mood more toxic.

Behold the legacy of the Barack Hussein Obama.

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

Here is the truth.

https://youtu.be/4PUdIdssqI4

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

He’s as clueless about the economy as he is everything else. The U4 unemployment numbers are a nightmare of twisting reality.

fullspinzoo

Hey bozo, talk about Biden's highest inflation in 40 years. You are delusional.

Radiance3

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Obama dismantled the Constitution and run his administration
thru "political correctness".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/11/19/obamas-disdain-for-the-constitution-means-we-risk-losing-our-republic/

Obama's betrayal of the constitution!
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/opinion/obamas-betrayal-of-the-constitution.html

Obama has no respect for the constitution!
https://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2014/06/barack_obama_has_no_respect_fo.html

Obama gave part of our stimulus of $787 billion to build and rebuild MOSQUES around the world.
https://mymountaintown.com/forum/6-the-courthouse/35462-obama-gives-your-tax-to-rebuild-muslim-mosques-world.

Obama supported building Muslim Mosques, and Muslim cultural center, next to Ground Zero In NYC. , the symbol of the Muslim's triumphant destruction of the US in 9/11.
https://mymountaintown.com/forum/6-the-courthouse/35462-

Michelle hinted she wanted to be a president.

fullspinzoo

Good job, Radiance. Woody never knows what he's talking about.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

FJB and FBO

teabag09

Woody, when did you have your lobotomy(sp) preformed? Mike

DamnYANKEE

ohhh , it's gonna get worse , much worse . store up on the beans , flour n sugar