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Jan 6, 2022 19:48:39   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/05/who-are-the-real-insurrectionists/

Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?
Victor Davis HansonJanuary 5, 2022

Stone-cold sober elites are systematically waging a far more dangerous and insidious revolution in the shadows than anything threatened by the American Right.

Recently, Democrats have been despondent over Joe Biden’s sinking polls. His policies on the economy, energy, foreign policy, the border, and COVID-19 all have lost majority support.

As a result, the Left now variously alleges that either in 2022, when they expect to lose the Congress, or in 2024, when they fear losing the presidency, Republicans will “destroy democracy” or stage a coup.

A cynic might suggest that they praise democracy when they get elected—only to claim it is broken when they lose. Or they hope to avoid their defeat by trying to terrify the electorate. Or they mask their own revolutionary propensities by projecting them onto their opponents.

After all, who is trying to federalize election laws in national elections contrary to the spirit of the Constitution? Who wishes to repeal or circumvent the Electoral College? Who wishes to destroy the more than 180-year-old Senate filibuster, the over 150-year-old nine-justice Supreme Court, and the more than 60-year-old, 50-state union?

Who is attacking the founding constitutional idea of two senators per state?

The Constitution also clearly states that “When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside.” Who slammed through the impeachment of Donald Trump without a presiding chief justice?

Never had a president been either impeached twice or tried in the Senate as a private citizen. Who did both?

The Left further broke prior precedent by impeaching Trump without a special counsel’s report, formal hearings, witnesses, and cross-examinations.

Who exactly is violating federal civil rights legislation?

New York City’s Department of Health and Mental Hygiene in December decided to ration potentially lifesaving new COVID-19 medicines, partially on the basis of race, in the name of “equity.”

The agency also allegedly used racial preferences to determine who would be first tested for COVID-19.

Yet such racial discrimination seems in direct violation of various title clauses of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.


That law makes it clear that no public agency can use race to deny “equal utilization of any public facility which is owned, operated, or managed by or on behalf of any State or subdivision thereof.” Who is behind the new racial discrimination?

In summer 2020, many local and state-mandated quarantines and bans on public assemblies were simply ignored with impunity—if demonstrators were associated with Black Lives Matter or protesting the police.

Currently, the Biden Administration is also flagrantly embracing the neo-Confederate idea of nullifying federal law.

The Biden Administration has allowed nearly 2 million foreign nationals to enter the United States illegally across the southern border—in hopes they will soon be loyal constituents.

The administration has not asked illegal entrants either to be tested for or vaccinated against COVID-19. Yet all U.S. citizens in the military and employed by the federal government are threatened with dismissal if they fail to become vaccinated.

Such selective exemption of lawbreaking non-U.S. citizens, but not millions of U.S. citizens, seems in conflict with the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.


After entering the United States illegally, millions of immigrants are protected by some 550 “sanctuary city” jurisdictions. These revolutionary areas all brazenly nullify immigration law by refusing to allow federal immigration authorities to deport illegal immigrant lawbreakers.

At various times in our nation’s history—1832, 1861-65, and 1961-63—America was either racked by internal violence or fought a civil war over similar state nullification of federal laws.

In the last five years, we have indeed seen many internal threats to democracy.

Hillary Clinton hired a foreign national to concoct a dossier of dirt against her presidential opponent. She disguised her own role by projecting her efforts to use Russian sources onto Trump. She used her contacts in government and media to seed the dossier to create a national hysteria about “Russian collusion.” Clinton urged Biden not to accept the 2020 result if he lost, and she also claimed Trump was not a legitimately elected president.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has violated laws governing the chain of command. Some retired officers violated Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice by slandering their commander-in-chief. Others publicly were on record calling for the military to intervene to remove an elected president.

Some of the nation’s top officials in the FBI and intelligence committee have misled or lied under oath either to federal investigators or the U.S. Congress—again mostly with impunity.

All these sustained revolutionary activities were justified as necessary to achieve the supposedly noble ends of removing Donald Trump.

The result is Third World-like jurisprudence in America aimed at rewarding friends and punishing enemies, masked by service to social justice.

We are in a dangerous revolutionary cycle. But the threat is not so much from loud, buffoonish one-day rioters on January 6. Such clownish characters did not for 120 days loot, burn, attack courthouses and police precincts, cause over 30 deaths, injure 2,000 policemen, and destroy at least $2 billion in property—all under the banner of revolutionary justice. Even more ominously, stone-cold sober elites are systematically waging an insidious revolution in the shadows that seeks to dismantle America’s institutions and the rule of law as we have known them.

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Jan 6, 2022 20:07:09   #
Michael10
 
The Real Insurrectionists are the people who attacked the capitol trying to stop the process of certifying the vote and those who helped in any way. If you blame anyone else you fool yourself.

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Jan 6, 2022 20:10:03   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Michael10 wrote:
The Real Insurrectionists are the people who attacked the capitol trying to stop the process of certifying the vote and those who helped in any way. If you blame anyone else you fool yourself.


That was a single act by a few none of whom have been charged with insurrection.

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Jan 6, 2022 20:17:43   #
woodguru
 
AuntiE wrote:
That was a single act by a few none of whom have been charged with insurrection.


They are now being charged with elements of obstructing and conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding.

Refusing to concede and participate in a peaceful transfer of power is an insurrection or coup, call it whatever you want it is what it is.

And you my clueless friend simply do not have a clue what charges will be laid down as we get into the more serious charges and sentencing...word is, and you will never believe it, is that upwards of a thousand people will be targeted for conspiracy, insurrection, and sedition type charges.

Garland is just getting it going there Antie

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Jan 6, 2022 20:25:22   #
American Vet
 
woodguru wrote:
They are now being charged with elements of obstructing and conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding.

Refusing to concede and participate in a peaceful transfer of power is an insurrection or coup, call it whatever you want it is what it is.


Of course, the DoJ/FBI do not agree with you.....but what the hey - you know more than they do. <sarcasm intended>

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Jan 6, 2022 20:28:05   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
woodguru wrote:
They are now being charged with elements of obstructing and conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding.

Refusing to concede and participate in a peaceful transfer of power is an insurrection or coup, call it whatever you want it is what it is.

And you my clueless friend simply do not have a clue what charges will be laid down as we get into the more serious charges and sentencing...word is, and you will never believe it, is that upwards of a thousand people will be targeted for conspiracy, insurrection, and sedition type charges.

Garland is just getting it going there Antie
They are now being charged with elements of obstru... (show quote)


Nor do you know what charges may ultimately be laid. One would think after 12 months DOJ would be further in the process.

One wonders where the thousand are. Assuredly, there were not a thousand people in the Capitol nor on the Capitol grounds.

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Jan 6, 2022 20:32:04   #
woodguru
 
AuntiE wrote:
Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?


You have been indoctrinated to the language and cult of the stupidity of trump...real americans, the real patriots, the real citizens, real news, are the only things that matter. If you agree with everything trump does it's all real, anything and anyone that doesn't are the enemy, the fakes.

The real insurrectionists are the only ones, the ones that stormed the capital, injured and killed dozens of cops

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Jan 6, 2022 20:49:50   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
woodguru wrote:
You have been indoctrinated to the language and cult of the stupidity of trump...real americans, the real patriots, the real citizens, real news, are the only things that matter. If you agree with everything trump does it's all real, anything and anyone that doesn't are the enemy, the fakes.

The real insurrectionists are the only ones, the ones that stormed the capital, injured and killed dozens of cops


You are assuming, making an ass of yourself…as usual.

There are more then a few things Trump has said I disagree with. There are more then a few policies I wholeheartedly agree with.

No police officers died at the Capitol on January 6th.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

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Jan 7, 2022 09:32:36   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
AuntiE wrote:
https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/05/who-are-the-real-insurrectionists/

Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?
Victor Davis HansonJanuary 5, 2022

Stone-cold sober elites are systematically waging a far more dangerous and insidious revolution in the shadows than anything threatened by the American Right.

Recently, Democrats have been despondent over Joe Biden’s sinking polls. His policies on the economy, energy, foreign policy, the border, and COVID-19 all have lost majority support.

As a result, the Left now variously alleges that either in 2022, when they expect to lose the Congress, or in 2024, when they fear losing the presidency, Republicans will “destroy democracy” or stage a coup.

A cynic might suggest that they praise democracy when they get elected—only to claim it is broken when they lose. Or they hope to avoid their defeat by trying to terrify the electorate. Or they mask their own revolutionary propensities by projecting them onto their opponents.

After all, who is trying to federalize election laws in national elections contrary to the spirit of the Constitution? Who wishes to repeal or circumvent the Electoral College? Who wishes to destroy the more than 180-year-old Senate filibuster, the over 150-year-old nine-justice Supreme Court, and the more than 60-year-old, 50-state union?

Who is attacking the founding constitutional idea of two senators per state?

The Constitution also clearly states that “When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside.” Who slammed through the impeachment of Donald Trump without a presiding chief justice?

Never had a president been either impeached twice or tried in the Senate as a private citizen. Who did both?

The Left further broke prior precedent by impeaching Trump without a special counsel’s report, formal hearings, witnesses, and cross-examinations.

Who exactly is violating federal civil rights legislation?

New York City’s Department of Health and Mental Hygiene in December decided to ration potentially lifesaving new COVID-19 medicines, partially on the basis of race, in the name of “equity.”

The agency also allegedly used racial preferences to determine who would be first tested for COVID-19.

Yet such racial discrimination seems in direct violation of various title clauses of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.


That law makes it clear that no public agency can use race to deny “equal utilization of any public facility which is owned, operated, or managed by or on behalf of any State or subdivision thereof.” Who is behind the new racial discrimination?

In summer 2020, many local and state-mandated quarantines and bans on public assemblies were simply ignored with impunity—if demonstrators were associated with Black Lives Matter or protesting the police.

Currently, the Biden Administration is also flagrantly embracing the neo-Confederate idea of nullifying federal law.

The Biden Administration has allowed nearly 2 million foreign nationals to enter the United States illegally across the southern border—in hopes they will soon be loyal constituents.

The administration has not asked illegal entrants either to be tested for or vaccinated against COVID-19. Yet all U.S. citizens in the military and employed by the federal government are threatened with dismissal if they fail to become vaccinated.

Such selective exemption of lawbreaking non-U.S. citizens, but not millions of U.S. citizens, seems in conflict with the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.


After entering the United States illegally, millions of immigrants are protected by some 550 “sanctuary city” jurisdictions. These revolutionary areas all brazenly nullify immigration law by refusing to allow federal immigration authorities to deport illegal immigrant lawbreakers.

At various times in our nation’s history—1832, 1861-65, and 1961-63—America was either racked by internal violence or fought a civil war over similar state nullification of federal laws.

In the last five years, we have indeed seen many internal threats to democracy.

Hillary Clinton hired a foreign national to concoct a dossier of dirt against her presidential opponent. She disguised her own role by projecting her efforts to use Russian sources onto Trump. She used her contacts in government and media to seed the dossier to create a national hysteria about “Russian collusion.” Clinton urged Biden not to accept the 2020 result if he lost, and she also claimed Trump was not a legitimately elected president.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has violated laws governing the chain of command. Some retired officers violated Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice by slandering their commander-in-chief. Others publicly were on record calling for the military to intervene to remove an elected president.

Some of the nation’s top officials in the FBI and intelligence committee have misled or lied under oath either to federal investigators or the U.S. Congress—again mostly with impunity.

All these sustained revolutionary activities were justified as necessary to achieve the supposedly noble ends of removing Donald Trump.

The result is Third World-like jurisprudence in America aimed at rewarding friends and punishing enemies, masked by service to social justice.

We are in a dangerous revolutionary cycle. But the threat is not so much from loud, buffoonish one-day rioters on January 6. Such clownish characters did not for 120 days loot, burn, attack courthouses and police precincts, cause over 30 deaths, injure 2,000 policemen, and destroy at least $2 billion in property—all under the banner of revolutionary justice. Even more ominously, stone-cold sober elites are systematically waging an insidious revolution in the shadows that seeks to dismantle America’s institutions and the rule of law as we have known them.
https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/05/who-are-the-rea... (show quote)


The Electoral College today has no basis. It is not being used for what it was intended .
It is long past time to abolish the electoral college.
Along with adding more justices to the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court when started we had a roughly 3 Million population.
Today we have
330Million !
Lower courts have been begging for more justices.
It’s time to add more. 4 , I last heard in a bill up for discussion.
Minority Rule is not bi partisan.
And should be stopped.

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Jan 7, 2022 09:37:11   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
woodguru wrote:
You have been indoctrinated to the language and cult of the stupidity of trump...real americans, the real patriots, the real citizens, real news, are the only things that matter. If you agree with everything trump does it's all real, anything and anyone that doesn't are the enemy, the fakes.

The real insurrectionists are the only ones, the ones that stormed the capital, injured and killed dozens of cops


And now at least 100 Congressmen have files drafted on them . For aiding and abedding an insurrection.

Insurrection: the new word of the day.

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Jan 7, 2022 16:02:14   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Michael10 wrote:
The Real Insurrectionists are the people who attacked the capitol trying to stop the process of certifying the vote and those who helped in any way. If you blame anyone else you fool yourself.


Anybody who believes that a group of people showed up to take over the Gov without weapons is ignorant.

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Jan 7, 2022 16:02:34   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
AuntiE wrote:
That was a single act by a few none of whom have been charged with insurrection.


That's right

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Jan 7, 2022 16:05:46   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
woodguru wrote:
You have been indoctrinated to the language and cult of the stupidity of trump...real americans, the real patriots, the real citizens, real news, are the only things that matter. If you agree with everything trump does it's all real, anything and anyone that doesn't are the enemy, the fakes.

The real insurrectionists are the only ones, the ones that stormed the capital, injured and killed dozens of cops


No one wants to be indoctrinated into your stupidity cult, it's been six years since your ac usations about Trump started. Shit or get off the pot. There is no "irrefutable evidence," it's all democratic lies.

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Jan 8, 2022 09:07:26   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
microphor wrote:
Anybody who believes that a group of people showed up to take over the Gov without weapons is ignorant.


They didn’t show up to take over government. They showed up to stop the counting of electoral votes and certification.
Besides , what good would weapons have done them ?

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Jan 8, 2022 09:17:01   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
AuntiE wrote:
That was a single act by a few none of whom have been charged with insurrection.


Yet !
Did you miss Garlands speech ?
As they go up the ladder the sentences will be getting more severe.
Most of the dopes who already went to court
were given light sentences once they proved they were just dopes. Saving the best for last . Once it becomes apparent they’re next
There will be a mass exodus to Slovenia.
How can they live in this country as traitors?
Convicted felons are not allowed to own guns or vote or hold government jobs or law enforcement.
Slovenia may be their only hope.

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