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A slap in the face, and then you say "Thanks, I needed that": Trump could face charges for trying to obstruct certification of election
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Dec 24, 2021 13:59:14   #
rumitoid
 
JFlorio wrote:
Objecting to the seating of electors is a common practice from both sides of the aisles.


A little Lalaland.

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Dec 24, 2021 14:00:13   #
rumitoid
 
Forkbassman wrote:
If he's guilt, he should be nailed. What about Clintons, Bidens etc or do we have a double standard in America?


Write a thread to that question.

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Dec 24, 2021 14:00:45   #
rumitoid
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***Trump could face charges for trying to obstruct certification of election
>>>But he didn't. So you are fishing for something like a cheney or even a pelosi, but it is all fabrications to the extreme at the low life crap you come up with.


He hasn't...yet.

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Dec 24, 2021 14:29:06   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Trump was not on Twitter, ergo no tweeting. (And what was he "tweeting out.") As you admitted Biden is president--but the announced and oft repeated intent of the Insurrectionists was to disrupt a Constitutional and democratic process fundamental to the freedom of our nation to overthrow the election.


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/trump-tweets-as-political-leaders-beg-him-to-intervene-in-violent-capitol-hill-insurrection.html

After the first tweet, he tweeted again 15 min later urgin gthem to help the capital police. Maybe he meant for them to help the capital police to let them in! LOL!

Either way, Trump tweeted very early on telling them to refrain from violence. Is that Trump code for "hang Mike Pence?"

Get real rhuymy. You are lying.

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Dec 24, 2021 19:10:05   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
billy a wrote:
"expectation is growing"..."might face charges"..."speculation about possible charges"..."rhetorical bombshell"..."if the panel finds new evidence"... and on and on and on. Rumi, do you ever actually READ what you post ? You might as well switch over to flying saucers landing in the Rose Garden, at least we'd all get a laugh. fjb


billy, We will see soon enough. He who can not be named is going down. If the sob lucky, he will be in the same cell as one of his cronies!

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Dec 24, 2021 21:48:36   #
American Vet
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
billy, We will see soon enough. He who can not be named is going down. If the sob lucky, he will be in the same cell as one of his cronies!


Seems we heard the same about the Mueller Report......

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Dec 24, 2021 21:59:42   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
American Vet wrote:
Seems we heard the same about the Mueller Report......


Yea. The guy that report was named after was just as feeble and demented as corrupt Joe.

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Dec 25, 2021 05:12:56   #
fullspinzoo
 
rumitoid wrote:
The Guardian
Peter Stone in Washington DC
Fri, December 24, 2021, 12:00 AM

Expectation is growing that Donald Trump might face charges for trying to obstruct Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s election this year as a House panel collects more evidence into the 6 January attack on the Capitol, former prosecutors and other experts say.

Speculation about possible charges against the former US president has been heightened by a recent rhetorical bombshell from Republican representative and 6 January panel vice-chair Liz Cheney suggesting the House panel is looking at whether Trump broke a law that bars obstruction of “official proceedings”.

Former prosecutors say if the panel finds new evidence about Trump’s role interfering with Congress’ job to certify Biden’s election, that could help buttress a potential case by the Department of Justice.

In varying ways, Cheney’s comments have been echoed by two other members of the House select committee, Republican Adam Kinzinger and Democrat Jamie Raskin, spurring talk of how an obstruction statute could apply to Trump, which would entail the panel making a criminal referral of evidence for the justice department to investigate, say DOJ veterans.

Cheney’s remarks raising the specter of criminal charges against Trump came twice earlier this month at hearings of the committee. Experts believe the charges could be well founded given Trump’s actions on 6 January, including incendiary remarks to a rally before the Capitol attack and failure to act for hours to stop the riot, say former justice department officials.

“Based on what is already in the public domain, there is powerful evidence that numerous people, in and out of government, attempted to obstruct – and did obstruct, at least for a while – an official proceeding – i.e., the certification of the Presidential election,” said former DOJ inspector general and former prosecutor Michael Bromwich in a statement to the Guardian. “That is a crime.”

Although a House panel referral of obstruction by Trump would not force DOJ to open a criminal case against him, it could help provide more evidence for one, and build pressure on the justice department to move forward, say former prosecutors.

Attorneygeneral Merrick Garland has declined to say so far whether his department may be investigating Trump and his top allies already for their roles in the Capitol assault.

The panel has amassed significant evidence, including more than 30,000 records and interviews with more than 300 people, among whom were some key White House staff.

The evidence against Trump himself could include his actions at the “Stop the Steal” rally not far from the White House, where he urged backers to march to the Capitol and “fight like hell [or] you’re not going to have a country any more”. Trump then resisted multiple pleas for hours from Republicans and others to urge his violent supporters to stop the attack.

Recent rulings by Trump-appointed district court judges have supported using the obstruction statute, which federal prosecutors have cited in about 200 cases involving rioters charged by DOJ for their roles in the Capitol assault that injured about 140 police officers and left five dead.

Still, experts note that the House panel’s mission has been to assemble a comprehensive report of what took place on 6 January and work on legislation to avoid such assaults on democracy. They caution that any criminal referral to DOJ documenting Trump’s obstruction of Congress will take time and more evidence to help bolster a DOJ investigation.

Some DOJ veterans say that any referral to DOJ by the House panel for a criminal case against Trump – and perhaps top allies such as ex chief of staff Mark Meadows, whom the House last week cited for criminal contempt for refusing to be deposed – might also include Trump’s aggressive pressuring of federal and state officials before 6 January to block Biden’s win with baseless charges of fraud.

Bromwich stressed that “the evidence is steadily accumulating that would prove obstruction beyond a reasonable doubt. The ultimate question is who the defendants would be in such an obstruction case. Evidence is growing that, as a matter of law and fact, that could include Trump, Meadows and other members of Trump’s inner circle.”

Cheney teed up the issue about Trump’s potential culpability first at a House panel hearing last week, when she urged that Meadows be held in contempt for refusing to be deposed, and then hit Trump with a rhetorical bombshell.

“We know hours passed with no action by the president to defend the Congress of the United States from an assault while we were counting electoral votes,” Cheney said.
Read much more at https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-could-face-charges-trying-070018305.html if you can take the truth.
The Guardian br Peter Stone in Washington DC br Fr... (show quote)


NWR NWR

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Dec 25, 2021 06:55:34   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
billy, We will see soon enough. He who can not be named is going down. If the sob lucky, he will be in the same cell as one of his cronies!


Oh, everybody's "going down". A couple of small fish, maybe, to placate the villagers, but the "Players"? No way.
A guy like Trump has been playing the game with the mob, the politicians, contractors and building departments for many years. He's got a file with hard evidence on everybody he dealt with, their people, and their people's people.
The libs are close to sinking now... they couldn't handle a multi-layered scandal. If they had any brains, they'd let President Trump be, and clean up their own house. Hate has created the mess they're in, and hate isn't going to fix it. fjb

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Dec 25, 2021 07:44:34   #
bill22222002
 
rumitoid wrote:
The Guardian
Peter Stone in Washington DC
Fri, December 24, 2021, 12:00 AM

Expectation is growing that Donald Trump might face charges for trying to obstruct Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s election this year as a House panel collects more evidence into the 6 January attack on the Capitol, former prosecutors and other experts say.

Speculation about possible charges against the former US president has been heightened by a recent rhetorical bombshell from Republican representative and 6 January panel vice-chair Liz Cheney suggesting the House panel is looking at whether Trump broke a law that bars obstruction of “official proceedings”.

Former prosecutors say if the panel finds new evidence about Trump’s role interfering with Congress’ job to certify Biden’s election, that could help buttress a potential case by the Department of Justice.

In varying ways, Cheney’s comments have been echoed by two other members of the House select committee, Republican Adam Kinzinger and Democrat Jamie Raskin, spurring talk of how an obstruction statute could apply to Trump, which would entail the panel making a criminal referral of evidence for the justice department to investigate, say DOJ veterans.

Cheney’s remarks raising the specter of criminal charges against Trump came twice earlier this month at hearings of the committee. Experts believe the charges could be well founded given Trump’s actions on 6 January, including incendiary remarks to a rally before the Capitol attack and failure to act for hours to stop the riot, say former justice department officials.

“Based on what is already in the public domain, there is powerful evidence that numerous people, in and out of government, attempted to obstruct – and did obstruct, at least for a while – an official proceeding – i.e., the certification of the Presidential election,” said former DOJ inspector general and former prosecutor Michael Bromwich in a statement to the Guardian. “That is a crime.”

Although a House panel referral of obstruction by Trump would not force DOJ to open a criminal case against him, it could help provide more evidence for one, and build pressure on the justice department to move forward, say former prosecutors.

Attorneygeneral Merrick Garland has declined to say so far whether his department may be investigating Trump and his top allies already for their roles in the Capitol assault.

The panel has amassed significant evidence, including more than 30,000 records and interviews with more than 300 people, among whom were some key White House staff.

The evidence against Trump himself could include his actions at the “Stop the Steal” rally not far from the White House, where he urged backers to march to the Capitol and “fight like hell [or] you’re not going to have a country any more”. Trump then resisted multiple pleas for hours from Republicans and others to urge his violent supporters to stop the attack.

Recent rulings by Trump-appointed district court judges have supported using the obstruction statute, which federal prosecutors have cited in about 200 cases involving rioters charged by DOJ for their roles in the Capitol assault that injured about 140 police officers and left five dead.

Still, experts note that the House panel’s mission has been to assemble a comprehensive report of what took place on 6 January and work on legislation to avoid such assaults on democracy. They caution that any criminal referral to DOJ documenting Trump’s obstruction of Congress will take time and more evidence to help bolster a DOJ investigation.

Some DOJ veterans say that any referral to DOJ by the House panel for a criminal case against Trump – and perhaps top allies such as ex chief of staff Mark Meadows, whom the House last week cited for criminal contempt for refusing to be deposed – might also include Trump’s aggressive pressuring of federal and state officials before 6 January to block Biden’s win with baseless charges of fraud.

Bromwich stressed that “the evidence is steadily accumulating that would prove obstruction beyond a reasonable doubt. The ultimate question is who the defendants would be in such an obstruction case. Evidence is growing that, as a matter of law and fact, that could include Trump, Meadows and other members of Trump’s inner circle.”

Cheney teed up the issue about Trump’s potential culpability first at a House panel hearing last week, when she urged that Meadows be held in contempt for refusing to be deposed, and then hit Trump with a rhetorical bombshell.

“We know hours passed with no action by the president to defend the Congress of the United States from an assault while we were counting electoral votes,” Cheney said.
Read much more at https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-could-face-charges-trying-070018305.html if you can take the truth.
The Guardian br Peter Stone in Washington DC br Fr... (show quote)


Why has instigator in red maga hat no mask not been charged. I heard he was FBI and there to stir up the crowd. also, why are all white people being charged and BLM people don't get charged for burning and looting. MMM because they are black. need to go back to 60s. fire hoses and dogs. shit would stop. quit paying criminals' families 30 million before officer is convicted. if anything, Chauvin should get 30 million for taking CAREER CRIMINAL off the street. lol

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Dec 25, 2021 10:27:59   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
rumitoid wrote:
The Guardian
Peter Stone in Washington DC
Fri, December 24, 2021, 12:00 AM

Expectation is growing that Donald Trump might face charges for trying to obstruct Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s election this year as a House panel collects more evidence into the 6 January attack on the Capitol, former prosecutors and other experts say.

Speculation about possible charges against the former US president has been heightened by a recent rhetorical bombshell from Republican representative and 6 January panel vice-chair Liz Cheney suggesting the House panel is looking at whether Trump broke a law that bars obstruction of “official proceedings”.

Former prosecutors say if the panel finds new evidence about Trump’s role interfering with Congress’ job to certify Biden’s election, that could help buttress a potential case by the Department of Justice.

In varying ways, Cheney’s comments have been echoed by two other members of the House select committee, Republican Adam Kinzinger and Democrat Jamie Raskin, spurring talk of how an obstruction statute could apply to Trump, which would entail the panel making a criminal referral of evidence for the justice department to investigate, say DOJ veterans.

Cheney’s remarks raising the specter of criminal charges against Trump came twice earlier this month at hearings of the committee. Experts believe the charges could be well founded given Trump’s actions on 6 January, including incendiary remarks to a rally before the Capitol attack and failure to act for hours to stop the riot, say former justice department officials.

“Based on what is already in the public domain, there is powerful evidence that numerous people, in and out of government, attempted to obstruct – and did obstruct, at least for a while – an official proceeding – i.e., the certification of the Presidential election,” said former DOJ inspector general and former prosecutor Michael Bromwich in a statement to the Guardian. “That is a crime.”

Although a House panel referral of obstruction by Trump would not force DOJ to open a criminal case against him, it could help provide more evidence for one, and build pressure on the justice department to move forward, say former prosecutors.

Attorneygeneral Merrick Garland has declined to say so far whether his department may be investigating Trump and his top allies already for their roles in the Capitol assault.

The panel has amassed significant evidence, including more than 30,000 records and interviews with more than 300 people, among whom were some key White House staff.

The evidence against Trump himself could include his actions at the “Stop the Steal” rally not far from the White House, where he urged backers to march to the Capitol and “fight like hell [or] you’re not going to have a country any more”. Trump then resisted multiple pleas for hours from Republicans and others to urge his violent supporters to stop the attack.

Recent rulings by Trump-appointed district court judges have supported using the obstruction statute, which federal prosecutors have cited in about 200 cases involving rioters charged by DOJ for their roles in the Capitol assault that injured about 140 police officers and left five dead.

Still, experts note that the House panel’s mission has been to assemble a comprehensive report of what took place on 6 January and work on legislation to avoid such assaults on democracy. They caution that any criminal referral to DOJ documenting Trump’s obstruction of Congress will take time and more evidence to help bolster a DOJ investigation.

Some DOJ veterans say that any referral to DOJ by the House panel for a criminal case against Trump – and perhaps top allies such as ex chief of staff Mark Meadows, whom the House last week cited for criminal contempt for refusing to be deposed – might also include Trump’s aggressive pressuring of federal and state officials before 6 January to block Biden’s win with baseless charges of fraud.

Bromwich stressed that “the evidence is steadily accumulating that would prove obstruction beyond a reasonable doubt. The ultimate question is who the defendants would be in such an obstruction case. Evidence is growing that, as a matter of law and fact, that could include Trump, Meadows and other members of Trump’s inner circle.”

Cheney teed up the issue about Trump’s potential culpability first at a House panel hearing last week, when she urged that Meadows be held in contempt for refusing to be deposed, and then hit Trump with a rhetorical bombshell.

“We know hours passed with no action by the president to defend the Congress of the United States from an assault while we were counting electoral votes,” Cheney said.
Read much more at https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-could-face-charges-trying-070018305.html if you can take the truth.
The Guardian br Peter Stone in Washington DC br Fr... (show quote)


Lies, lies and more lies. I m tired of posting facts you don't even read. There's a tweet that went out within 25 minutes of the breach, look it up yourself and then get honest and say you were wrong.

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Dec 25, 2021 11:23:52   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
microphor wrote:
Lies, lies and more lies. I m tired of posting facts you don't even read. There's a tweet that went out within 25 minutes of the breach, look it up yourself and then get honest and say you were wrong.


I posted the same thing. Rhumy won't acknowledge it.

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Dec 25, 2021 11:34:24   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I posted the same thing. Rhumy won't acknowledge it.

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Dec 25, 2021 11:35:09   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Doesn't want to know the truth. It doesn't fit his narrative

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Dec 25, 2021 21:48:16   #
Carlos Caliente
 
Biden better stand forward on charges of Quid pro quo in Ukraine, and we better demand fair justice on both sides or we will lose our country, Americans aren't blind, dumb, and stupid, we see the double and triple standards and if you want trouble stare right at a Republicans face, they are pissed and for many good reasons.

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