amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

[quote=Barbancon][quote=Blade_Runner]I didn't leave anything out. The Protocols is an anti-Semitic forgery produced by the Russian secret police. No Jew or Jews had anything to do with it. The notion that these are "accurate blueprints of Jewish subversive activities" is bullshit.

And, the Talmud is probably the most controversial and misinterpreted Jewish literature on the planet.
Anti-Semites have twisted the Talmud into a pretzel.
Jewish Rabbis have debunked their slanderous and hateful interpretations.[/

With due respect for your apologetics do you really think the Soviet authorities would declare the death penalty for the possession of a fake document? Sources aside, have you even read the document? If you had you would know it has been carried out with precision. Do you really believe members of the Russian royal family spent their time reading forgeries? Occam’s razor suggests otherwise.

As for the Talmud it also carries the death penalty for anyone that shares it with a gentile. Sound familiar? If there’s nothing to hide why the death penalty?

I know why. Because both documents reveal the burning hatred of fake Jews for all mankind that don’t share their primitive and bizarre superstitions and hateful anti-human laws.[/quote]

Try this little ditty I pulled out of Google:

In 1921, the London Times presented conclusive proof that the Protocols was a "clumsy plagiarism." The Times confirmed that the Protocols had been copied in large part from a French political satire that never mentioned Jews—Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864). Other investigations revealed that one chapter of a Prussian novel, Hermann Goedsche's Biarritz (1868), also "inspired" the Protocols.

Poor old Brother Nathaniel and the other Jew haters on this Blog will be very unhappy.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

He preached to none of them...

He literally stated that he came to preach to the Jews...

Cuda2020

I take it you're one of those devout loving Christians spreading the word of God, but I didn't know the word of God was the word of hate. Deep... deep... hate. You have a blessed day.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Not exactly. First of all, there was no letter "J" in those days.

Then saith the woman of Samaria vnto him, How is it that thou, being a Iewe, askest drinke of me, which am a woman of Samaria? For the Iewes haue no dealings with the Samaritanes.
10 Iesus answered, and said vnto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that sayth to thee, Giue me to drinke; thou wouldest haue asked of him, and hee would haue giuen thee liuing water.

https://www.jesus-resurrection.info/origin-jews.html

excerpts:

The origin of the Jews was well after the time of Abraham. When and how did the Jews become Jews? Jews did not exist until many years after Abraham.

The word "Judean" (later shortened to "Jew) refers to those who lived in this area. The term "Jew" is from the Greek word "ioudaios" (Strong's no. 2453). It is actually short for the word Judean or, more accurately, Ioudas, pronounced ee-oo-dah-yos. A person is termed Jewish:

if they belong to the Jewish nation
with respect to their birth, origin or religion

So the word "Jew" is short for the word "Judean," meaning a resident of Judea, the area also now called Palestine. The word "Jew" did not mean an ethnic background.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Guess you never read the Old Testament.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Yahshua came to preach to the lost sheep of Israel.
Those that lost track of their identity.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The Protocols is an anti-Semitic forgery.

Widespread Condemnation

During the past 60 years impressive authorities have publicly attested to the Protocols’ fraudulence.

Hugo Valentin, lecturer in history at the University of Upsala in Sweden, characterized the Protocols in his 1936 study Anti-Semitism, Historically and Critically Examined as "the greatest forgery of the century."

Father Pierre Charles, Professor of Theology at the Jesuit College in Louvain, France, stated in a 1938 essay: "It has been proved that these ‘Protocols’ are a fraud, a clumsy plagiarism. . . made for the purpose of rendering the Jews odious..."

In 1942, several prominent historians, including Carl Becker of Cornell, Sydney Fay and William Langer of Harvard, and Allan Nevins and Cariton J. H. Hayes of Columbia, introduced Professor John Shelton Curtiss’ ‘An Appraisal of the Protocols of Zion" with their endorsement of his findings as "completely destructive of the historicity of the Protocols and as establishing beyond doubt the fact that they are rank and pernicious forgeries."

In 1961 Richard Helms, then Assistant Director of the CIA, stated at a Senate subcommittee hearing: "The Russians have a long tradition in the art of forgery. More than 60 years ago the Czarist intelligence service concocted and peddled a confection called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion."

And in August of 1964 a subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee issued a report repudiating the Protocols, to which Senators Thomas J. Dodd and Kenneth B. Keating appended the following: "Every age and country has had its share of fabricated ‘historic’ documents which have been foisted on an unsuspecting public for some malign purpose. . . One of the most notorious and most durable of these is the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion.’."

In 1993, a Russian court ruled the Protocols were an anti-Semitic forgery.

Conclusion

In 1935 a Swiss judge, presiding at a trial of two Swiss National Socialists charged with circulating the Protocols, wrote:

I hope that one day there will come a time when no one will any longer comprehend how in the year 1935 almost a dozen fully sensible and reasonable men could for fourteen days torment their brains before a court of Berne over the authenticity or lack of authenticity of these so-called Protocols... that, for all the harm they have already caused and may yet cause, are nothing but ridiculous nonsense.

Unfortunately, the judge’s hope has not yet been fully realized. There are still those anti-Semites and their willing audiences who remain ready to circulate and believe this fantasy of hate.

With these facts in mind, and your anti-Semitic rhetoric, I can understand why you would defend this "Hoax of Hate."

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Guess you never read the Gospels.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Fake or not fake; They cover pretty well what has happened.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

https://educate-yourself.org/cn/protocolsofsion.shtml#top

[Note from Ken Adachi, Update, Sept. 17, 2014. A small booklet published in 1938 titled The Jewish World Conspiracy affirmed the authenticity of the Protocols and said:

"In the matter of the authorship, the American writer *F. Fry, following upon investigations carried out in Russia by Henry Ford, states that the Protocols are the work of the Jewish writer and leader Achad Haam (Ascher Ginsberg), and that they originated in Odessa. Certain circumstances go to show that the Protocols – perhaps following upon the lines of a concept by Achad Haam – formed the subject of a lecture in French Masonic Lodges. The bases for this supposition are the following, namely: that Freemason policy follows the lines of the Protocols, and that S.A. Nilus tells us that the copy which came into his hands in 1901 bore the following inscription: 'Signed by the Representatives of Zion of the 33rd Degree.'"

* I believe there is a typo in the name "F. Fry". I'm reasonably certain that the author meant "L. Fry", which would refer to Mrs. Leslie Fry, pen name for Paquita Louise de Shishmareff, who published an important book in 1931 titled Waters Flowing Eastward ~ Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Supplements). She introduced the Protocols to Henry Ford in 1920.

It is now known that Ginsburg (Achad Haam) was not the author of the Protocols as stated in the above 1938 booklet, but rather was a zealous promoter and disseminator of its teachings among his early radicalized group called the Sons of Moses. Evidence is presented in the Introduction, seen further below, that the strategies of subversion and undermining touted in the Protocls were employed by the Elders of Zion in earlier epochs, including the time of Cromwell and the French Revolution of 1788.

The Protocols include the text of a document divided into 24 subheadings (protocols) that formed the subject of a lecture presented among the inner circle of Zion in French Masonic Lodges in the latter decades of the 19th century. Quoting from the booklet:

"The bases for this supposition are the following, namely: that Freemason policy follows the lines of the Protocols, and that S.A. Nilus tells us that the copy which came into his hands in 1901 bore the following inscription: "Signed by the Representatives of Zion of the 33rd Degree."

While the term "protocols" technically refers to the minutes of the proceedings of the Learned Elders of Zion, the document implies a blueprint or strategy to follow in order to achieve the desired goals stated within. The Protocols were a subject of discussion at the First Zionist Congress held in in Basel, Switzerland (spelled Basle at the time) from August 29-31 in 1897 (the Protocols were not conceived or created at the First Zionist Congress as some have erroneously asserted). In 1884, the daughter of a Russian general living in Paris, Mademoiselle Justine Glinka, paid her assistant, Joseph Schoerst (alias Shapiro), a member of the Jewish Mizraim Masonic Lodge, the sum of 2,500 francs for a "document [which] contained extraordinary dictated writings from assorted speeches which would later be included in the final compilation of the Protocols of Zion." (Schoerst was murdered in Egypt within two months of selling his copy of the Protocols to Mademoiselle Glinka). She sent the French original, along with a Russian translation to the Tsar in St. Petersburg, but he never received it. Courtiers, obliged to Jewish interests, intercepted it and kept it from the Tsar. Undeterred, Glinka sent a copy to Alexis Sukhotin, who showed it to Philip Stepanov and Professor Sergyei A. Nilus. While Stepanov circulated private copies in 1897, Prof. Nilus published the Protocols for the first time in Russia in 1901, in a book entitled The Great Within the Small, and then in 1905 published it (in Russian) as The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. G. Butmi, a friend of Nilus, brought a copy to England where it was marked received by the British Museum on August 10, 1906.

The first Zionist Congress of 1897 was headed up by Theodor Herzl. Subsequent Zionist congresses were held on an almost yearly basis up to 1913 (World War I intervened from 1914-1918), and then resumed again in 1921.

The ideas and beliefs expressed in these protocols are so hideous and repugnant to the sensibilities of any normal person of good will, that the English translator, Victor E. Marsden, could only work on translating Nilus' 1905 Russian version of the Protocols (at the British Museum) for one hour per day due to his revulsion with the concepts being promoted. The demented individuals who embrace these concepts consider themselves a superior and separate category of humanity who were chosen by "God" to rule over all other men on this planet and establish a simple two tier feudal society: one with Zionist elites at the top and worker (non Jewish, "goyim") serfs below them

[Note: Some Zionists have admitted that they worship Lucifer. Michael A. Hoffman presents convincing evidence in his massive tome, Judaism Discovered ("From Its Own Text~ A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition and Deceit" Pub. 2008, 1103 pages), that Judaism is a self worshipping, racist, supremacist, belief construct.

A brash, 29 year old Zionist egotist, Harold W. Rosenthal (right), then administrative assistance to Jewish Senator Jacob Javits of New York, revealed in a remarkably candid 1976 paid interview with Walter White Jr (who was viciously beaten on March 13, 1978 as a consequence of publishing his explosive interview with Rosenthal) affirmed that Judaism is a Luciferian (Satanic) cult:

"Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer -- so I wasn't lying -- and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive."

quoted verbatun from his interview recording in The Hidden Tyranny.

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Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

We're talking about 15 million people, worldwide, total. No freaking way are the Jews committed to taking over the world. The only army they have is the IDF.

Jews and Finance
While the notion that Jews control the world economy or banking system is an obvious canard, it is true that Jews have long been well-represented in the fields of finance and business. This is commonly attributed to the fact that for centuries, Jews were excluded from professional guilds and denied the right to own land, forcing them to work as merchants and financiers. However some academics contend that the historical evidence does not support this thesis and that Jewish financial success is instead due to the community’s high literacy rates.

Whatever its causes, Jewish business and financial success has more often than not been a major driver of anti-Semitism. Shakespeare’s Shylock character, a money lender who extracts a pound of flesh from a debtor who defaulted, is among history’s best-known caricatures of the Jewish businessman. That caricature lent a sinister undertone of greed and exploitation to Jewish financial dealings that would be invoked to justify anti-Jewish measures for centuries to come. Supposed Jewish control of the global financial system — a feature of what some call economic anti-Semitism — was a major theme in Hitler’s war against European Jews, Father Coughlin’s anti-Semitic rants in the United States, and the czarist forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Related slurs include claims that Jews are wealthy, greedy and stingy, obsessed with material goods and profit, and that they exploit their economic advantages to help their own people, to the detriment of the public good.

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Antimarxist21

Thanks much!

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Have you read any part of the Talmud, yourself? If you haven't, then you don't know what you're talking about.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

But the Bible says Baal

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

You're welcome!