martsiva

Do you know the difference between the physical and the spiritual concerning the descendants of Abraham?? Did Gal3: 7 go over your head?? How about Gal 3: 27 and 28?? Did Jesus Christ and his Apostles follow the dictates of the Jewish elders around them? NO they did not because they followed the teachings of Jesus Christ!! He called them "vipers'!

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I didn't leave anything out. The Protocols is an anti-Semitic forgery produced by the Russian secret police. No Jew or Jews had anything to do with it. The notion that these are "accurate blueprints of Jewish subversive activities" is bullshit.

And, the Talmud is probably the most controversial and misinterpreted Jewish literature on the planet.
Anti-Semites have twisted the Talmud into a pretzel.
Jewish Rabbis have debunked their slanderous and hateful interpretations.

Radiance3

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[Mercy sakes, we are talking about the genealogy of the Jews, and Jesus when he became man. We call them Jews why? Because they are descendants of Abraham thru Juda.

As far as faith is concerned. That is a separate thing. We claim that those who have faith in Christ are also children of Abraham. Children thru faith, yes, but the fact is we could not deny the physical existence of the Jews whose body, soul, and spirit came from Abraham.

Please don't mix the faith from the physical anatomy of human being. Jews have the physical anatomy or adherence to Abraham's flesh and blood.

Our faith in Christ, is spiritual, and all those who have faith in Christ belong to Christ. We recognized Abraham as the Father of the Jewish people, and we are spiritually related since[b] Jesus as a Jew, when he came to the world as the son of man[/b], he is a descendant of Abraham.

Know the difference between spiritual relationship and the physical relationship.

We Christians have the spiritual relationship with Christ. We recognize Christ as the son of God. God the Son, God the father, and God the Holy Spirit considered One God forever.

martsiva

What is so hard for you to understand Gal 3:7?? God did NOT look specifically at just Jews being descendants of Abraham!! ALL who believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God are the descendants of Abraham!! If you believe in Jesus Christ, God says YOU are a descendant of Abrham!!

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

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The only people who could remotely be called "Jews" in those days were the Scribes and Pharisees. Jesus said He knew that Abraham was their father, so that means they were either descendants of Esau or Ishmael. And that means they were the authors of the Talmud. Even Mohammad had a problem with the Talmud.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

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Matthew 12:48-50
But he replied to the man who told him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

Radiance3

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It is apparent that you are confused. You don't understand 3:7. You are mixed up
with physical versus spiritual relationship. I explained that.

You are mixed up with so many scriptures blended together. I explained that physical and spiritual relationship at 3:7 about Abraham. What is in your mind but confusions! You are loaded with so many directions in you mind. You are not worth my time. Sorry about that. Bye, I am extremely busy this year-end.

Ginny has so many confusions as well. She is loaded with so many fictional stories, designed to destroy the Jewish people. She hate so much. To her mind the Jews are all gone, and Israel does not belong to the Jews there. Perhaps Ginny wants Hamas to take over Israel.
Ginny, you are not worth my time either.

Here's where Jesus as the son of man came from. And here are the generations of the Jews. Jew means Juda.
Mt 1:1-17

The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ,
the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Abraham became the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers.
Judah became the father of Perez and Zerah,
whose mother was Tamar.
Perez became the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,
Ram the father of Amminadab.
Amminadab became the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,
Salmon the father of Boaz,
whose mother was Rahab.
Boaz became the father of Obed,
whose mother was Ruth.
Obed became the father of Jesse,
Jesse the father of David the king.
David became the father of Solomon,
whose mother had been the wife of Uriah.
Solomon became the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asaph.
Asaph became the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Joram,
Joram the father of Uzziah.
Uzziah became the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah.
Hezekiah became the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amos,
Amos the father of Josiah.
Josiah became the father of Jechoniah and his brothers
at the time of the Babylonian exile.
After the Babylonian exile,
Jechoniah became the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
Zerubbabel the father of Abiud.
Abiud became the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
Azor the father of Zadok.
Zadok became the father of Achim,
Achim the father of Eliud,
Eliud the father of Eleazar.
Eleazar became the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary.
Of her was born Jesus who is called the Christ.
Thus the total number of generations
from Abraham to David
is fourteen generations;
from David to the Babylonian exile, fourteen generations;
from the Babylonian exile to the Christ,
fourteen generations.

There it explains clearly the physical relationship of the Jewish people to Abraham, as well as Jesus Christ to Abraham when He was born to Mary. That was physical relationship. The spiritual is the peoples' faith in Christ Jesus as God.

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

Actually, it was Moloch.

Barbancon

[quote=Blade_Runner]I didn't leave anything out. The Protocols is an anti-Semitic forgery produced by the Russian secret police. No Jew or Jews had anything to do with it. The notion that these are "accurate blueprints of Jewish subversive activities" is bullshit.

And, the Talmud is probably the most controversial and misinterpreted Jewish literature on the planet.
Anti-Semites have twisted the Talmud into a pretzel.
Jewish Rabbis have debunked their slanderous and hateful interpretations.[/

With due respect for your apologetics do you really think the Soviet authorities would declare the death penalty for the possession of a fake document? Sources aside, have you even read the document? If you had you would know it has been carried out with precision. Do you really believe members of the Russian royal family spent their time reading forgeries? Occam’s razor suggests otherwise.

As for the Talmud it also carries the death penalty for anyone that shares it with a gentile. Sound familiar? If there’s nothing to hide why the death penalty?

I know why. Because both documents reveal the burning hatred of fake Jews for all mankind that don’t share their primitive and bizarre superstitions and hateful anti-human laws.

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

Hannukah is the Feast of Lights that goes back to the Maccabees, who defeated Antiachus Epiphanies. You're off by several hundres years.

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

[quote=Barbancon][quote=Blade_Runner]I didn't leave anything out. The Protocols is an anti-Semitic forgery produced by the Russian secret police. No Jew or Jews had anything to do with it. The notion that these are "accurate blueprints of Jewish subversive activities" is bullshit.

And, the Talmud is probably the most controversial and misinterpreted Jewish literature on the planet.
Anti-Semites have twisted the Talmud into a pretzel.
Jewish Rabbis have debunked their slanderous and hateful interpretations.[/

With due respect for your apologetics do you really think the Soviet authorities would declare the death penalty for the possession of a fake document? Sources aside, have you even read the document? If you had you would know it has been carried out with precision. Do you really believe members of the Russian royal family spent their time reading forgeries? Occam’s razor suggests otherwise.

As for the Talmud it also carries the death penalty for anyone that shares it with a gentile. Sound familiar? If there’s nothing to hide why the death penalty?

I know why. Because both documents reveal the burning hatred of fake Jews for all mankind that don’t share their primitive and bizarre superstitions and hateful anti-human laws.[/quote]

The Protocols was a Jesuit forgery designed to stir up hate in the gullible and ignorant masses. It looks like it worked.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

You and Barbancon are both right:

https://www.history.com/topics/holidays/hanukkah

The eight-day Jewish celebration known as Hanukkah or Chanukah commemorates the rededication during the second century B.C. of the Second Temple in Jerusalem, where according to legend Jews had risen up against their Greek-Syrian oppressors in the Maccabean Revolt. Hanukkah, which means “dedication” in Hebrew, begins on the 25th of Kislev on the Hebrew calendar and usually falls in November or December. Often called the Festival of Lights, the holiday is celebrated with the lighting of the menorah, traditional foods, games and gifts.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Nope, the Protocols is genuine. The Jews always deny anything that tells the truth about them. Zionist Jews are notorious liars!

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument. You must be basing your "knowledge" off an Alex Jones broadcast.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

If I am not worth your time, Radiance, why do you bother to come on my thread and post your Jewish lies? The Jews I'm talking about are those Zionist Jews who are promoting Covid-19 "vaccines" - better known as bioweapons, that is killing people, just like they planned. They have no love for you, me, or any other non-Zionist Jew.

Have you read Albert Pike's vision for WW3? That's supposed to involve the Jews in Israel and the Arabs. "The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other." You can read about it here: https://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm