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Dec 17, 2021 07:56:28   #
PZG1225 Loc: Florida
 
Rose42 wrote:
Yes Jews are the descendants of Abraham. Period. Its amazing how far people will go when they have an irrational hatred for Jews.

The biggest red flag - other than non biblical and white supremacist/neo nazi sources - is those who claim they are Christian yet think its okay to hate a nation.

Who is your god Ginny? It doesn’t look to be the God of the bible.


:sm24

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Dec 17, 2021 08:57:18   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
I find it amusing you often try and put words in people’s mouths. I never said or implied that.

As for questining who is Christian that is something we are to question. Or is that something else you disregard because you don’t like it?


I tend to take people at their word...

Either that or the last true Christian was nailed to a cross some two thousand years ago...

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Dec 17, 2021 08:59:18   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
amadjuster wrote:
God hated Esau because Esau rejected his birthrite for a bowl of soup. He rejected God for some porridge. John the Baptist was an Essene. You should study them.


Isaac sure showed the true spirit of God that day... Blackmailing his starving brother..

And then lying to and deceiving his father...

Such a noble soul...

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Dec 17, 2021 09:19:13   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I tend to take people at their word...

Either that or the last true Christian was nailed to a cross some two thousand years ago...


No you don’t.

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Dec 17, 2021 09:20:32   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
No you don’t.


I don't recall ever telling someone I don't believe them when they declared their faith...

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Dec 17, 2021 09:21:08   #
Liberty Tree
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Isaac sure showed the true spirit of God that day... Blackmailing his starving brother..

And then lying to and deceiving his father...

Such a noble soul...


Almost as bad as the totalitarian oppressor you idolize.

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Dec 17, 2021 09:26:37   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Almost as bad as the totalitarian oppressor you idolize.


Yeah... Raising tens of millions of people out of poverty is pretty sinful stuff...

The Christian in you must hate it...

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Dec 17, 2021 09:26:37   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Isaac sure showed the true spirit of God that day... Blackmailing his starving brother..

And then lying to and deceiving his father...

Such a noble soul...


And? Rahab was a harlot, David an adulterer and murderer. Was God wrong to use them?

Guaranteed you’ve broken every commandment as everyone else has. All the apostles were flawed too. Every human is

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Dec 17, 2021 09:29:55   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
http://whale.to/c/is_lucifer.html

Is Lucifer the God of Judaism?

In the interview, later published as "The Hidden Tyranny", the arrogant Rosenthal belligerently boasts (on tape) that the Jewish people have fabricated certain "falsehoods which work to conceal their nature and protect their status and power."

Rosenthal debunks the commonly accepted lie that, "the Jews are Israelites, and thus God's chosen people".

Rosenthal said in part: 'Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer -- so I wasn't lying -- and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive.'" (www.macquirelatory.com/Wallace Interview 1967.htm)

Lucifer's goal is to "be like the most High" (Isa 14:14) and to usurp the worship of God (Mat 4:9).

Lucifer's purpose is to deceive the whole world (Rev 12:9) by transforming himself into an angel of light (2Co 11:4). This is best exemplified by the Freemasons. Their motto of "making good men better" produces a far more favorable public image than the more accurate alternative: "how to become demon-possessed in 33-easy-steps." The Jewish and Masonic religions both worship the same god.
http://whale.to/c/is_lucifer.html br br b Is Luc... (show quote)


Hahahahahah, haahahaha, some guys opinion and twisted meanings of biblical writings is not fact! I have Jewish friends who practice their faith, they do not worship Lucifer.

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Dec 17, 2021 10:17:16   #
currahee506
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
https://www.texemarrs.com/042013/jews_not_descendants_of_abraham.htm

***In 2008, Russian archaeologist Dmitry Vasilyev unearthed Itil, the long lost capital of the Kingdom of Khazaria. New DNA science proves that today’s “Jews” come from Khazaria and are not the seed of Abraham.***

Who should possess the land of Israel? Christian evangelicals say it should be the descendants of Abraham. They point to the Old Testament and claim that God gave this land forever to the descendants of Abraham and that God demands they and they alone own the land.

To the Christian evangelical, this means the Jews. Yes, it is the Jews who own this land, and it is their land forever.

The Jews, then, according to Christian evangelicals, are the descendants of Abraham, his seed.

DNA Science Confounds the Common Wisdom

There is only one problem. And it is a huge one. Science proves those who call themselves “Jews” are not Jews! DNA Science has confounded the Christian evangelicals by proving conclusively that most of the people in the nation of Israel and in World Jewry are not the descendants of Abraham.

Those living today who profess to be “Jews” are not of the ancient Israelites, and they are not the seed of Abraham. In fact, the new DNA research shows that the Palestinians actually have more Israelite blood than do the “Jews!”

The nation of Israel today is populated with seven and half million imposters.

The “Jews” Are Not Jews But Are Khazarians

The newest DNA science finding is from Dr. Eran Elhaik (“a Jew”) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In research accepted December 5, 2012 and published by the Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society of Molecular Biology and Evolution, it was found that the “Khazarian Hypothesis” is scientifically correct.

What exactly is the “Khazarian Hypothesis?” Simply stated, it holds that the Jewry genome is a mosaic of ancestries which rise primarily out of the Khazars.

Jews are Khazars, not Israelites.

The “Jews” of America, Europe, and Israel are descendants not of Father Abraham but of King Bulan and the people of ancient Khazaria. Khazaria was an amalgam of Turkic clans who once lived in the Caucasus (Southern Russia) in the early centuries CE. These Turkic peoples were pagans who converted to Judaism in the eighth century. As converts, they called themselves “Jews,” but none of their blood comes from Israel.

Later, the “Jews” (Khazars) emigrated, settling in Russia, Hungary, Poland, Germany, and elsewhere in Europe. As “Jews,” the Khazars then left the European nations in 1948 and settled the fledgling, new nation of Israel.

The people of Israel are not the seed, nor the ancestors, of Abraham. They call themselves “Jews,” but in fact, DNA science shows them to be Khazars. They say they are “Jew,” but they are not.

“There are no blood or family connections among the Jews,” said Dr. Elhaik in an interview with Haaretz, Israel’s daily newspaper. “The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. Their genome is largely Khazar.”

God Did Not Give the Land to the Khazarians

Thus, when Prime Minister Netanyahu says, “God gave this land to our Israelite forefathers,” he is absolutely wrong. There are no Israelite forefathers of today’s “Jews.” When today’s “Jews” say they should possess the land because they are Israelites and are the seed of Abraham, they are mistaken.

The “Jews” are in Israel for one reason and one reason only: Because the United States, in 1948, recognized the nation of “Israel” and has since funded and protected it. God’s Word has nothing to do with it.

God’s Word, the Holy Bible, prophesied that in the last days imposters would erroneously and falsely claim to be “Jews.” These imposters would, the Bible told us, persecute their enemies and especially the Christians. But God would have his revenge:

“Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; Behold I will make them to come and worship at thy feet and know that I have loved thee.” (Revelation 3:9)

Do the “Jews” (Khazars) not do exactly as our God prophesied? Do they not persecute the Palestinians and defile the land, claiming they are its original inhabitants? This, even though their proven ancestors, the Khazars, never set foot in the Middle East and are not the seed of Abraham?

My thanks to Dr. Eran Elhaik of Johns Hopkins University and to his associates. You have performed a valuable service with your DNA research, both to Christianity and to world understanding. pb[Elhaik’s research confirms earlier DNA studies, especially the work of Dr. Ariella Oppenheim of Hebrew University, who likewise found, in 2001, that the “Jews” came from the Khazars rather than the Israelites.[/b] Dr. Oppenheim even found that some of the Palestinians have the chromosomes proving they are “Cohen,” related to the ancient Israelites who worked in the Synagogue and Temple.

con't
https://www.texemarrs.com/042013/jews_not_descenda... (show quote)


The term "Israel" is a name given by God to Jacob. It is not a name given to him at birth. This is his "spiritual" name because of belief, i.e., belief with the Divine faith given to him by the Holy Spirit to see and believe in God's Eternal Covenant fulfilled by Him in the Messiah. When Christ fulfilled this Covenant there was no longer any need for a material temple or land which served as symbols until His appearance in time. As Jesus said to Pilate, "My Kingdom is not of this world." Believers in Him are the Israelites and the Church. Genetics have nothing to do with it.

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Dec 17, 2021 10:30:41   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
currahee506 wrote:
The term "Israel" is a name given by God to Jacob. It is not a name given to him at birth. This is his "spiritual" name because of belief, i.e., belief with the Divine faith given to him by the Holy Spirit to see and believe in God's Eternal Covenant fulfilled by Him in the Messiah. When Christ fulfilled this Covenant there was no longer any need for a material temple or land which served as symbols until His appearance in time. As Jesus said to Pilate, "My Kingdom is not of this world." Believers in Him are the Israelites and the Church. Genetics have nothing to do with it.
The term "Israel" is a name given by God... (show quote)


Bizarre...

Israel has a clear meaning.. It was given due to an action...

Christ preached only to the Jews...

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Dec 17, 2021 13:47:49   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
https://www.texemarrs.com/042013/jews_not_descendants_of_abraham.htm

***In 2008, Russian archaeologist Dmitry Vasilyev unearthed Itil, the long lost capital of the Kingdom of Khazaria. New DNA science proves that today’s “Jews” come from Khazaria and are not the seed of Abraham.***

Who should possess the land of Israel? Christian evangelicals say it should be the descendants of Abraham. They point to the Old Testament and claim that God gave this land forever to the descendants of Abraham and that God demands they and they alone own the land.

To the Christian evangelical, this means the Jews. Yes, it is the Jews who own this land, and it is their land forever.

The Jews, then, according to Christian evangelicals, are the descendants of Abraham, his seed.

DNA Science Confounds the Common Wisdom

There is only one problem. And it is a huge one. Science proves those who call themselves “Jews” are not Jews! DNA Science has confounded the Christian evangelicals by proving conclusively that most of the people in the nation of Israel and in World Jewry are not the descendants of Abraham.

Those living today who profess to be “Jews” are not of the ancient Israelites, and they are not the seed of Abraham. In fact, the new DNA research shows that the Palestinians actually have more Israelite blood than do the “Jews!”

The nation of Israel today is populated with seven and half million imposters.

The “Jews” Are Not Jews But Are Khazarians

The newest DNA science finding is from Dr. Eran Elhaik (“a Jew”) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In research accepted December 5, 2012 and published by the Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society of Molecular Biology and Evolution, it was found that the “Khazarian Hypothesis” is scientifically correct.

What exactly is the “Khazarian Hypothesis?” Simply stated, it holds that the Jewry genome is a mosaic of ancestries which rise primarily out of the Khazars.

Jews are Khazars, not Israelites.

The “Jews” of America, Europe, and Israel are descendants not of Father Abraham but of King Bulan and the people of ancient Khazaria. Khazaria was an amalgam of Turkic clans who once lived in the Caucasus (Southern Russia) in the early centuries CE. These Turkic peoples were pagans who converted to Judaism in the eighth century. As converts, they called themselves “Jews,” but none of their blood comes from Israel.

Later, the “Jews” (Khazars) emigrated, settling in Russia, Hungary, Poland, Germany, and elsewhere in Europe. As “Jews,” the Khazars then left the European nations in 1948 and settled the fledgling, new nation of Israel.

The people of Israel are not the seed, nor the ancestors, of Abraham. They call themselves “Jews,” but in fact, DNA science shows them to be Khazars. They say they are “Jew,” but they are not.

“There are no blood or family connections among the Jews,” said Dr. Elhaik in an interview with Haaretz, Israel’s daily newspaper. “The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. Their genome is largely Khazar.”

God Did Not Give the Land to the Khazarians

Thus, when Prime Minister Netanyahu says, “God gave this land to our Israelite forefathers,” he is absolutely wrong. There are no Israelite forefathers of today’s “Jews.” When today’s “Jews” say they should possess the land because they are Israelites and are the seed of Abraham, they are mistaken.

The “Jews” are in Israel for one reason and one reason only: Because the United States, in 1948, recognized the nation of “Israel” and has since funded and protected it. God’s Word has nothing to do with it.

God’s Word, the Holy Bible, prophesied that in the last days imposters would erroneously and falsely claim to be “Jews.” These imposters would, the Bible told us, persecute their enemies and especially the Christians. But God would have his revenge:

“Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; Behold I will make them to come and worship at thy feet and know that I have loved thee.” (Revelation 3:9)

Do the “Jews” (Khazars) not do exactly as our God prophesied? Do they not persecute the Palestinians and defile the land, claiming they are its original inhabitants? This, even though their proven ancestors, the Khazars, never set foot in the Middle East and are not the seed of Abraham?

My thanks to Dr. Eran Elhaik of Johns Hopkins University and to his associates. You have performed a valuable service with your DNA research, both to Christianity and to world understanding. pb[Elhaik’s research confirms earlier DNA studies, especially the work of Dr. Ariella Oppenheim of Hebrew University, who likewise found, in 2001, that the “Jews” came from the Khazars rather than the Israelites.[/b] Dr. Oppenheim even found that some of the Palestinians have the chromosomes proving they are “Cohen,” related to the ancient Israelites who worked in the Synagogue and Temple.

con't
https://www.texemarrs.com/042013/jews_not_descenda... (show quote)


The only reason you post this load of bullshxt is to spread hate & discontent. No one successfully convinces another their version of religion is the only correct version. Please craw back under your rock & let others rejoice in harmony. Be glad your God isn't spiteful otherwise you'd have been struck dead by the Sword of Damocles long ago. Please, just go away.

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Dec 17, 2021 14:15:45   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Bizarre...

Israel has a clear meaning.. It was given due to an action...

Christ preached only to the Jews...


The woman at the well was a Samaritan. The Roman whose servant was healed and the Gadarene were Gentiles. Try again.

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Dec 17, 2021 14:19:57   #
Antimarxist21
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Ginny, Just what we needed, another anti Semite on OPP. The most recent DNA on Ashkenazi Jews shows that around 60% shows they have DNA going back to two Italian women. This is probably because many Jews in Rome migrated in the time of Romes decline and destruction.
I had my DNA tested, and it was found that 95% of my DNA is Ashkenazi, and 5% is the same as other peoples among the first to live in the Middle East. As for Cohens, there are certainly lots and lots of Jews that are Cohens. The large number of Palestines came from Egypt, Jorden, and Syria in the late 19th and early 20th century. I don't use religious arguments like Abraham being the father of all Jews and Arab peoples. History and religion are two different things. Many historians don't recognize that there was an Abraham and other Biblical figures like Moses.
As for the Khazars, they were a Turkish people that lived in what is now southern Russia. We don't know if the entire group converted to Judaism, or just the leader. There is no Turkish DNA in Ashkenazi Jews that I know about.
Ginny, Just what we needed, another anti Semite on... (show quote)


Thanks Salty, I always enjoy factual history, and a welcome break from all the political stuff.

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Dec 17, 2021 14:31:52   #
Antimarxist21
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Here is another one for you Ginny. You are reading and believing so much fictional stories written by those who want to make money out of the Holy Bible. What you are doing have been blasphemous. Please stop that.
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Gospel Mt 1:1-17
The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ,
the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Abraham became the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers.
Judah became the father of Perez and Zerah,
whose mother was Tamar.
Perez became the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,
Ram the father of Amminadab.
Amminadab became the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,
Salmon the father of Boaz,
whose mother was Rahab.
Boaz became the father of Obed,
whose mother was Ruth.
Obed became the father of Jesse,
Jesse the father of David the king.
David became the father of Solomon,
whose mother had been the wife of Uriah.
Solomon became the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asaph.
Asaph became the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Joram,
Joram the father of Uzziah.
Uzziah became the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah.
Hezekiah became the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amos,
Amos the father of Josiah.
Josiah became the father of Jechoniah and his brothers
at the time of the Babylonian exile.
After the Babylonian exile,
Jechoniah became the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
Zerubbabel the father of Abiud.
Abiud became the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,
Azor the father of Zadok.
Zadok became the father of Achim,
Achim the father of Eliud,
Eliud the father of Eleazar.
Eleazar became the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary.
Of her was born Jesus who is called the Christ.
=================== br Here is another one for you... (show quote)


Stop blaming/accusing the Jews for everything. They are good people. (B/T/W I am not Jewish, I"m Catholic).

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