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Oct 15, 2021 12:01:59   #
debeda
 
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/sen-marco-rubio-fire-john-kerry-biden-climate-czar

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Oct 15, 2021 14:48:34   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Amazing how the left wants to tear down statues of former slave holders and upholders from the distant past when it was an acceptable part of society. But ignore slavery supporters now, when it isn't an acceptable part of society.

Hypocrisy anyone?

LR

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Oct 15, 2021 15:43:43   #
debeda
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Amazing how the left wants to tear down statues of former slave holders and upholders from the distant past when it was an acceptable part of society. But ignore slavery supporters now, when it isn't an acceptable part of society.

Hypocrisy anyone?

LR


Absolutely!!!

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Oct 15, 2021 16:44:26   #
woodguru
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Amazing how the left wants to tear down statues of former slave holders and upholders from the distant past when it was an acceptable part of society. But ignore slavery supporters now, when it isn't an acceptable part of society.

Hypocrisy anyone?

LR


You would have to understand more about when confederate statues were erected, you don't see them in anything but red states that fought tooth and nail against blacks being treated equally...they hated it, they hated the end of segregation, they hated blacks being able to eat in white restaurants, they hated having to let them sit where they want on buses, they hated every aspect.

And monuments to the greatness of confederates and the war were put up ion the most racist of racist areas as a giant middle finger to having to put up with blacks as equals.

There was no glory in being on the side of insurrection and refusing to let go of slavery, and traitors and insurrectionists are not worthy of being memorialized.

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Oct 15, 2021 18:37:48   #
debeda
 
woodguru wrote:
You would have to understand more about when confederate statues were erected, you don't see them in anything but red states that fought tooth and nail against blacks being treated equally...they hated it, they hated the end of segregation, they hated blacks being able to eat in white restaurants, they hated having to let them sit where they want on buses, they hated every aspect.

And monuments to the greatness of confederates and the war were put up ion the most racist of racist areas as a giant middle finger to having to put up with blacks as equals.

There was no glory in being on the side of insurrection and refusing to let go of slavery, and traitors and insurrectionists are not worthy of being memorialized.
You would have to understand more about when confe... (show quote)


You meant blue states hated integration, right?

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Oct 18, 2021 14:34:45   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
woodguru wrote:
You would have to understand more about when confederate statues were erected, you don't see them in anything but red states that fought tooth and nail against blacks being treated equally...they hated it, they hated the end of segregation, they hated blacks being able to eat in white restaurants, they hated having to let them sit where they want on buses, they hated every aspect.

And monuments to the greatness of confederates and the war were put up ion the most racist of racist areas as a giant middle finger to having to put up with blacks as equals.

There was no glory in being on the side of insurrection and refusing to let go of slavery, and traitors and insurrectionists are not worthy of being memorialized.
You would have to understand more about when confe... (show quote)


Like I said, past and present.
They are doing nothing to protest John Kerry making profits on Chinese slave labor or protesting against that very slave labor. That goes for those unwashed mobs in the street not protesting against China. Or how about protesting against the Islamic societies throwing gays off of high buildings and enslaving women and stripping them of normal human rights. You are just a one trick pony protesting anything that looks good for the Right and bad for the Left

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Oct 18, 2021 14:48:08   #
debeda
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Like I said, past and present.
They are doing nothing to protest John Kerry making profits on Chinese slave labor or protesting against that very slave labor. That goes for those unwashed mobs in the street not protesting against China. Or how about protesting against the Islamic societies throwing gays off of high buildings and enslaving women and stripping them of normal human rights. You are just a one trick pony protesting anything that looks good for the Right and bad for the Left


Absolutely TRUE!👏👏👏👏👏👏

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Dec 2, 2021 17:06:22   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
woodguru wrote:
You would have to understand more about when confederate statues were erected, you don't see them in anything but red states that fought tooth and nail against blacks being treated equally...they hated it, they hated the end of segregation, they hated blacks being able to eat in white restaurants, they hated having to let them sit where they want on buses, they hated every aspect.

And monuments to the greatness of confederates and the war were put up ion the most racist of racist areas as a giant middle finger to having to put up with blacks as equals.

There was no glory in being on the side of insurrection and refusing to let go of slavery, and traitors and insurrectionists are not worthy of being memorialized.
You would have to understand more about when confe... (show quote)


***and traitors and insurrectionists are not worthy of being memorialized.
>>>Here is where we disagree. I don't necessarily look down upon men who fought for their State, over a Union of States still in its infancy, and one that treated their States in what they believed was an unfair manner. They seceded from this flawed Union. You spend day in and day out telling us how flawed it is. It was flawed back then and they wanted out. Lincoln wouldn't let them out. War. But most southerners that fought in that war were not fighting for the continuation of slavery, but for States rights.

If I was alive back then and a northerner, I would have fought to free the slaves. And we had plenty of slaves in the north also. And they weren't all black, but also Indians, Chinese, White, etc. They weren't all freed by the Civil War.

But if I was a southerner, I would have fought for States Rights and the right to leave that experiment called the United States. And most of the dead southerners didn't fight for slavery either. They didn't own any. They fought for their homeland. General Robert E. Lee was as big a hero to them as ever lived. Adored by his army and all of the south. He fought for Virginia, and freedom for Virginia to break away from the USA. And not all slave owners were white. Many blacks and Indians also owned slaves.

Slavery was a bad thing. Always. Throughout history. And so is a bully Washington and it is simply more complicated then what so many simpletons on OPP want to paint it. And as far as the statues are concerned. I believe that it should be up to the citizens of the individual states as to who they want to honor. And not a 51 over 49 majority. Or up to that unwashed rabble in the streets that you and so many want to paint as representative. They only represent a tiny minority that usually disrespects all law and authority. Statues and streets and such should be up to a super majority of citizens with at least 75% voting to erect or change any honory crap like statues and building names, etc, Both to erect and remove.

An example you would like to remove is someone like General Robert E. Lee. And example of someone I would like to see removed is any reference to or statue of George Floyd.

Logically Right

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Dec 2, 2021 18:06:50   #
debeda
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***and traitors and insurrectionists are not worthy of being memorialized.
>>>Here is where we disagree. I don't necessarily look down upon men who fought for their State, over a Union of States still in its infancy, and one that treated their States in what they believed was an unfair manner. They seceded from this flawed Union. You spend day in and day out telling us how flawed it is. It was flawed back then and they wanted out. Lincoln wouldn't let them out. War. But most southerners that fought in that war were not fighting for the continuation of slavery, but for States rights.

If I was alive back then and a northerner, I would have fought to free the slaves. And we had plenty of slaves in the north also. And they weren't all black, but also Indians, Chinese, White, etc. They weren't all freed by the Civil War.

But if I was a southerner, I would have fought for States Rights and the right to leave that experiment called the United States. And most of the dead southerners didn't fight for slavery either. They didn't own any. They fought for their homeland. General Robert E. Lee was as big a hero to them as ever lived. Adored by his army and all of the south. He fought for Virginia, and freedom for Virginia to break away from the USA. And not all slave owners were white. Many blacks and Indians also owned slaves.

Slavery was a bad thing. Always. Throughout history. And so is a bully Washington and it is simply more complicated then what so many simpletons on OPP want to paint it. And as far as the statues are concerned. I believe that it should be up to the citizens of the individual states as to who they want to honor. And not a 51 over 49 majority. Or up to that unwashed rabble in the streets that you and so many want to paint as representative. They only represent a tiny minority that usually disrespects all law and authority. Statues and streets and such should be up to a super majority of citizens with at least 75% voting to erect or change any honory crap like statues and building names, etc, Both to erect and remove.

An example you would like to remove is someone like General Robert E. Lee. And example of someone I would like to see removed is any reference to or statue of George Floyd.

Logically Right
***and traitors and insurrectionists are not worth... (show quote)


Did he say "red states that foughtvtooth and nail not to give blacks their rights"? Huh. Nice history rewrite of Dixiecrats

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