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Nov 30, 2021 09:45:09   #
American Vet
 
DASHY wrote:
Here's a link you might be interested in reviewing for educational purposes. When a ballot is received at election headquarters, voter verification data is checked, including voter signature and a unique serial number or bar code which was previously printed on every ballot mailed out to voters. https://news.columbia.edu/in-mail-absentee-ballots-secure-vote-election What you see is probably fraud. What I see is a safe and reliable voting system loaded with safeguards against possible fraud.
Here's a link you might be interested in reviewing... (show quote)


LOL

But your link does not address what happens before they are received. There is where the fraud can occur.

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Nov 30, 2021 09:47:49   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
DASHY wrote:
Do you vote in person or, like millions of Americans, do you vote-by-mail?


I personally vote in person, but dod vote in the primaries by mail on e and it bothered me so I just vote in person….

More of a Traditional thing too.. I remember the first time I voted, my dad made sure of it.. You didn’t tell me who to vote for but he was there to pick me up to go to the polling place. Lol lol

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Nov 30, 2021 09:50:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
American Vet wrote:
LOL

But your link does not address what happens before they are received. There is where the fraud can occur.


I can tell you for a fact in the 2020 election our mailman, name is Daniel, knew of a number of homes that were vacant and rather than leaving their ballots in their mailbox he returned them address unknown.. But he is only one person, by his own admission most just deliver and keep going..

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Nov 30, 2021 10:21:30   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
In 2020, a slim majority voted in person. It was almost an even split for those that voted on Election Day versus those that voted early. Dem voters were twice as likely than Republicans to vote by mail. Being somewhat of a math geek, I’m suspicious of the results from the 2020 election due to the statistical anomalies seen based on empirical data from previous elections. At this point I have little trust in the process and it’s accuracy. Regardless, ensuring voting integrity is a topic each and every citizen should support without bias. If we can’t set our differences aside on this issue and put in place the maximum safeguards to prevent voter fraud we’ll have selfishly destroyed our founders intent of a self governing nation.

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Nov 30, 2021 10:24:34   #
American Vet
 
JR-57 wrote:
In 2020, a slim majority voted in person. It was almost an even split for those that voted on Election Day versus those that voted early. Dem voters were twice as likely than Republicans to vote by mail. Being somewhat of a math geek, I’m suspicious of the results from the 2020 election due to the statistical anomalies seen based on empirical data from previous elections. At this point I have little trust in the process and it’s accuracy. Regardless, ensuring voting integrity is a topic each and every citizen should support without bias. If we can’t set our differences aside on this issue and put in place the maximum safeguards to prevent voter fraud we’ll have selfishly destroyed our founders intent of a self governing nation.
In 2020, a slim majority voted in person. It was ... (show quote)


Ensuring voter integrity is not what the left wants.


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Nov 30, 2021 10:46:46   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
American Vet wrote:
Ensuring voter integrity is not what the left wants.

If that’s true, and I believe it is, then put all of our difference on the table and let’s get it on. Based on where we’re at, I see no other way. I’m past the point of patience, in fact I now have none, and I’m not willing to stand by and watch this great nation be destroyed by those who are against, attack and erode our founding principles. Our founders would not have sat by and tolerated the oppositions strategic behavior to fundamentally transform our nation.

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Nov 30, 2021 11:15:01   #
DASHY
 
lindajoy wrote:
I can tell you for a fact in the 2020 election our mailman, name is Daniel, knew of a number of homes that were vacant and rather than leaving their ballots in their mailbox he returned them address unknown.. But he is only one person, by his own admission most just deliver and keep going..


If someone other than the designated voter tries to use a mail-in ballot, that ballot must still pass the verification check including matching signatures and the unique serial number or bar code printed on every ballot mailed out to voters.

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Nov 30, 2021 11:51:12   #
DASHY
 
JR-57 wrote:
If that’s true, and I believe it is, then put all of our difference on the table and let’s get it on. Based on where we’re at, I see no other way. I’m past the point of patience, in fact I now have none, and I’m not willing to stand by and watch this great nation be destroyed by those who are against, attack and erode our founding principles. Our founders would not have sat by and tolerated the oppositions strategic behavior to fundamentally transform our nation.


A good start to restoring trust in the voting process and it's accuracy is for loser Trump to stop spreading the "Stop The Steal" lie. Voting integrity is enshrined in HR4 John R. Lewis Voting Rights Act. HR4 will protect our right to vote and safeguard the integrity of our democracy. HR4 passed the House with just one Republican vote. Instead of "putting all of our differences on the table" Mitch McConnell has vowed to stop any bills passed by the House. Great start for preserving our founding principles.

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Nov 30, 2021 11:54:38   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
DASHY wrote:
If someone other than the designated voter tries to use a mail-in ballot, that ballot must still pass the verification check including matching signatures and the unique serial number or bar code printed on every ballot mailed out to voters.

And all up to the discretion of the person feeding the ballot into the fool proof vote counter.

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Nov 30, 2021 11:57:42   #
debeda
 
JR-57 wrote:
And all up to the discretion of the person feeding the ballot into the fool proof vote counter.


You know, drivers licenses and state IDs are scanned for all sorts of stuff. Why not voting? And if you want to vote by mail you must provide a copy of ID with barcode showing to scan.

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Nov 30, 2021 12:10:51   #
DASHY
 
JR-57 wrote:
And all up to the discretion of the person feeding the ballot into the fool proof vote counter.


After completing voter verification at the polling place, the voter feeds the ballot into the fool proof vote counter. A similar voter verification process takes place with mail-in voting.

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Nov 30, 2021 12:25:57   #
DASHY
 
debeda wrote:
You know, drivers licenses and state IDs are scanned for all sorts of stuff. Why not voting? And if you want to vote by mail you must provide a copy of ID with barcode showing to scan.


A unique serial number or barcode is already printed on the mail-in ballot. As I am sure you know, not every voter has a driver's license or another form of a barcode scannable ID. Drivers licenses and state IDs are good proof of identification when voting at the polls.

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Dec 15, 2021 16:22:41   #
MajG
 
ACP45 wrote:
Initially, I, like many here on OPP, felt that while Rittenhouse had the right to defend himself, it was probably not a wise course of action for him to take. I've read the following "account/opinion piece", and changed my view on this matter.

"Now we have videos of Kyle Rittenhouse with an AR-15 slung around his shoulder as he waded into a riot-plagued community to hand out bandages and protect property. In the summer of 2020, the mobs ruled and nobody dared oppose them. They toppled beautiful works of statutory art. They burned businesses and even a police station. They seized real governmental control over several city blocks in one of the country’s most important cities. Revolutionaries established other “autonomous zones,” in Washington, D.C., Portland Oregon, and Asheville, North Carolina. Nobody dared enforce rules regarding private property, social distancing, curfews, or even murder.

A year later, the rule of law has finally begun to reassert itself. When the Rittenhouse trial judge dismissed the gun charge, it may have spelled doom for the prosecution’s theory of the case. The charge was key to muddying the self-defense theory, and recasting Kyle to look like an aggressor for the mere fact that he possessed the firearm. Like his leftist overlords, the prosecutor has pushed the “he-shouldn’t-have-been-there-with-a-gun” narrative as justification for convicting Rittenhouse. On that night, the streets belonged to the righteous mob. Anyone who opposed anything the mob did was, by then-candidate Biden’s definition, a white supremacist."

Perhaps it was foolish for one 17 year old to stand up to a "mob" seeking to rob, loot, burn and destroy businesses and personal property. But maybe, just maybe, this event is a catalyst that represents a change of everything.
https://amgreatness.com/2021/11/15/why-the-rittenhouse-case-has-changed-everything/
Initially, I, like many here on OPP, felt that whi... (show quote)


Very interesting post. You may be right. Great change sometimes requires a catalyst, something as simple as self defense trial or police murder. The Floyd killing started a whole "summer of love" with riots and destruction with bewildered governments looking on powerless to help. (By choice) Death and destruction did nothing to reincarnate Floyd but it did wake up a lot of the sleeping public dumb enough to support those powerless governments. It started a new "We hate whites" pogrom begun years ago by Obama that turned into the idiotic "Wokeness" of today, even as deep as the military.
The Rittenhouse verdict might just be that match that lights the "We won't take it anymore" fire America so desperately needs.
The new Mayor of NYC might be just what they need. Phony BLM punks with made up stupid names like Hawk can go pound sand. Start too much crap and hello Jail. Some people refuse to put up with the BS. Another fine example is the former Police Chief of Detroit. No BS tolerated. No riots.

This smash and grab business may just be halted by lead poisoning of the perpetrators. It'll end that problem quickly.
History tells us that when there is no public protection, real men stand up and deliver vigilante justice. Not legal or always fair but quite effective..
We may be almost there.

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Dec 15, 2021 16:25:50   #
MajG
 
DASHY wrote:
During the riot ruled by angry mobs who threatened innocent people and burned businesses, Rittenhouse was the only person who killed someone. I hope the Rittenhouse decision does not tell other vigilante kids that it is OK to kill people you disagree with.


Mostly the ones that threaten your life need killing.

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Dec 15, 2021 16:29:37   #
MajG
 
TommyRadd wrote:
When the policing powers that are hired and paid to protect “we the people” decide they aren’t interested in performing their duties, I guess you’re perfectly willing to let chaos prevail?

Lemming.


The police are not obligated to protect the public. Famous DC case a few years ago. When there is no law real men make their own. Vigilantism is nothing new or unexpected. So much for chaos.

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