Why the Rittenhouse Case Has Changed Everything (Page 37): Yes. In the first place, the voter makes a request for an absentee ballot. In the second place, the voting system will...

DASHY

American Vet wrote:

Do you understand the difference between a requested absentee ballot and a mass mailing to all the voters on the rolls?

Yes. In the first place, the voter makes a request for an absentee ballot. In the second place, the voting system will automatically send a ballot application to all registered voters. In some states, most elections are with mail-in ballots, especially where in-person voting is limited.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

DASHY wrote:

Of course you know that an absentee ballot is actually a vote-by-mail. You are absent at the polls when you mail in your ballot instead going to the polling place to vote. Pretty simple. Do you need further clarification?

No, but YOU sure do. Entirely different processes with entirely different verification factors. But I am not interested in educating you AGAIN. I've only gone this far because of OPPers who do not yet know you.
Folks, meet the horse that I can't force to drink.
Take care of yourself, Trigger.

American Vet

DASHY wrote:

Yes. In the first place, the voter makes a request for an absentee ballot. In the second place, the voting system will automatically send a ballot application to all registered voters. In some states, most elections are with mail-in ballots, especially where in-person voting is limited.

Yep: The person can request a ballot. No problem with that - as long as they are properly identified and added to the voter registration rolls and they are properly identified as being eligible to vote.

Do you understand what a mass mailing to all the voters on the rolls is? Do you see how that could be problematic?

DASHY

RandyBrian wrote:

No, but YOU sure do. Entirely different processes with entirely different verification factors. But I am not interested in educating you AGAIN. I've only gone this far because of OPPers who do not yet know you.
Folks, meet the horse that I can't force to drink.
Take care of yourself, Trigger.

Again, Voting by mail is the same as not voting in person. You vote either in-person or by-mail. Not really a hard concept to grab, even for you.

DASHY

American Vet wrote:

Yep: The person can request a ballot. No problem with that - as long as they are properly identified and added to the voter registration rolls and they are properly identified as being eligible to vote.

Do you understand what a mass mailing to all the voters on the rolls is? Do you see how that could be problematic?

As long as voters are properly identified and added to the voter registration rolls and they are properly identified as being eligible to vote, why should it matter to you if they mail in their ballot or place their ballot in a little ballot box at a polling place? What I see as problematic is the attempt by Republicans to prevent properly identified, eligible voters from participating in the voting process.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

DASHY wrote:

Again, Voting by mail is the same as not voting in person. You vote either in-person or by-mail. Not really a hard concept to grab, even for you.

LOL! So in your mind the choices are voting-in-person or NOT voting-in-person. And all not-voting-in-person are the same.
LOL.
Please! SOMEbody out there try to get DASHY to understand the ridiculousness of that statement.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

DASHY wrote:

As long as voters are properly identified and added to the voter registration rolls and they are properly identified as being eligible to vote, why should it matter to you if they mail in their ballot or place their ballot in a little ballot box at a polling place? What I see as problematic is the attempt by Republicans to prevent properly identified, eligible voters from participating in the voting process.

Fine.
Now show a reliable way to do all the stuff in your first sentence. Reliable, accurate, and verifiable. There must be virtually no way for fraud to occur.
I will wait patiently.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

American Vet wrote:

Do you understand the difference between a requested absentee ballot and a mass mailing to all the voters on the rolls?

DASHY wrote:

Yes. In the first place, the voter makes a request for an absentee ballot. In the second place, the voting system will automatically send a ballot application to all registered voters. In some states, most elections are with mail-in ballots, especially where in-person voting is limited.

Absentee ballots - mailed to voter upon request.
Mail-in ballot - mailed to all addresses listed in state voter registration records.
(This is not an application for a ballot, it is an official ballot.)
State election boards are notorious for failing to keep their voter registration records current.
People move, people get married, people die, people change jobs, but if the state doesn't keep voter registration records current and accurate, then ballots end up in anybody's hands.

American Vet

DASHY wrote:

As long as voters are properly identified and added to the voter registration rolls and they are properly identified as being eligible to vote, why should it matter to you if they mail in their ballot or place their ballot in a little ballot box at a polling place? What I see as problematic is the attempt by Republicans to prevent properly identified, eligible voters from participating in the voting process.

What you see is what you want to see. What I see is you dodging the issue.

Here's a linkto educate you.

https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-u-s--elections-work/ballot-harvesting--what-is-it--how-does-it-work-.html

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

DASHY wrote:

Yes. In the first place, the voter makes a request for an absentee ballot. In the second place, the voting system will automatically send a ballot application to all registered voters. In some states, most elections are with mail-in ballots, especially where in-person voting is limited.

In my state (Colorado) you don’t request it at all.. It shows up in your mail box and you can mail it back or go vote in person..Nothing that defines it as a absentee ballot at all nor do you get a ballot application~~

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

American Vet wrote:

What you see is what you want to see. What I see is you dodging the issue.

Here's a linkto educate you.

https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-u-s--elections-work/ballot-harvesting--what-is-it--how-does-it-work-.html

Beyond logic for the left, good dry but it will fail.

DASHY

RandyBrian wrote:

LOL! So in your mind the choices are voting-in-person or NOT voting-in-person. And all not-voting-in-person are the same.
LOL.
Please! SOMEbody out there try to get DASHY to understand the ridiculousness of that statement.

I never said "all not-voting-in-person are the same." There at least three different names assigned to mail-in voting.
(1) Absentee Voting: Voter requests a ballot with or without an excuse depending on the rules in your voting district. (2) Early Voting or Advance Ballots: Voter requests a ballot or receives a ballot automatically if the voter has a history of Early Voting. (3) Mail-In Voting: A ballot or an application for a ballot is automatically mailed to every eligible voter. I personally prefer an application for a ballot until a history of mail-in voting has been established.

DASHY

RandyBrian wrote:

Fine.
Now show a reliable way to do all the stuff in your first sentence. Reliable, accurate, and verifiable. There must be virtually no way for fraud to occur.
I will wait patiently.

Take a look at the John R. Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act for guidance on how to set up reliable, accurate and verifiable voting rules.

DASHY

American Vet wrote:

What you see is what you want to see. What I see is you dodging the issue.

Here's a linkto educate you.

https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-u-s--elections-work/ballot-harvesting--what-is-it--how-does-it-work-.html

Here's a link you might be interested in reviewing for educational purposes. When a ballot is received at election headquarters, voter verification data is checked, including voter signature and a unique serial number or bar code which was previously printed on every ballot mailed out to voters. https://news.columbia.edu/in-mail-absentee-ballots-secure-vote-election What you see is probably fraud. What I see is a safe and reliable voting system loaded with safeguards against possible fraud.

DASHY

lindajoy wrote:

In my state (Colorado) you don’t request it at all.. It shows up in your mail box and you can mail it back or go vote in person..Nothing that defines it as a absentee ballot at all nor do you get a ballot application~~

Do you vote in person or, like millions of Americans, do you vote-by-mail?