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If You Take the COVID Vax, You Can Never Achieve Full Immunity Again – Government Stats Unveil the Horrifying Truth
Oct 31, 2021 11:25:24   #
skyrider
 
https://immunization.news/2021-10-29-hard-facts-covid-cases-rise-with-vaccination.html


https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-vax-you-can-never-achieve-full-immunity-again-government-stats-unveil-horrifying-truth/5759472

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Oct 31, 2021 14:29:54   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
skyrider wrote:
https://immunization.news/2021-10-29-hard-facts-covid-cases-rise-with-vaccination.html


https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-vax-you-can-never-achieve-full-immunity-again-government-stats-unveil-horrifying-truth/5759472


mayhaps horizons need expanding.

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/myths-vs-facts-covid-19-vaccine/

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Oct 31, 2021 14:35:06   #
Rose42
 
tactful wrote:


Indeed. People are dying from covid even after fully vaccinated, women are miscarrying after being fully vaccinated, people inexplicably develop heart problems after being fully vaccinated…and more. There is what’s being fed to us and there’s what people are observing in their lives.

One myth is we are being fed the unvarnished truth.

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Oct 31, 2021 15:02:18   #
skyrider
 
tactful wrote:


Well , that one is obviously hot off the presses of the "Ministry of Truth".
Half way good job of a propaganda piece, but no cigar.

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Oct 31, 2021 15:10:41   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
skyrider wrote:
Well , that one is obviously hot off the presses of the "Ministry of Truth".
Half way good job of a propaganda piece, but no cigar.


Exactly right. Why are people who are vaccinated still required to wear masks? Oh, that's because of the "delta" variant (which no one can even, or does, identify and isolate!). "Trust us, it's science don'tcha know!"

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Oct 31, 2021 15:30:55   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Rose42 wrote:
Indeed. People are dying from covid even after fully vaccinated, women are miscarrying after being fully vaccinated, people inexplicably develop heart problems after being fully vaccinated…and more. There is what’s being fed to us and there’s what people are observing in their lives.

One myth is we are being fed the unvarnished truth.


True,fully vaccinated people are dying[ although the majority are unvaccinated, claiming being jabbed to further conspiracy , JAMA published ] ,reports of women miscarrying have been sketchy at best as some OBYN’s actually recommend it unless compromised,also published,meantime covid long haulers developing a myriad of issues continue to rise as do a laundry list of problems associated, all because of the vast shortage of verifiable data and resources, while the march to achieve “ herd immunity “ is being continually explored which is also being fed us,apparently not enough to suit the minority’s. that buy every color of QAnon conspiracy theory out there ignoring fact and science altogether, for reasons only known to them.

while verifiable Truth is in fact being buried and/ or misinterpreted by more conspiracy theories than facts that sully or in many cases outright stop further research and development in all areas.
there is always a price and chance of casualties and collateral damage in any fact fed research.
final verdicts are , like historical facts , always questioned by those who have no interest in learning the facts and truth behind them.it is the darkest ,saddest part of human nature brought forth at a time when it is not wanted.

Source. Actual-closed Medical Forum ,non affiliated with any agenda.

The difference between
stupidity and genius
is that genius has limits.

sad so many are not or seem not familiar with the Yellow Brick road, then again some appear schooled in it in spades.

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Oct 31, 2021 17:20:27   #
Rose42
 
tactful wrote:
True,fully vaccinated people are dying[ although the majority are unvaccinated, claiming being jabbed to further conspiracy , JAMA published ] ,reports of women miscarrying have been sketchy at best as some OBYN’s actually recommend it unless compromised,also published,meantime covid long haulers developing a myriad of issues continue to rise as do a laundry list of problems associated, all because of the vast shortage of verifiable data and resources, while the march to achieve “ herd immunity “ is being continually explored which is also being fed us,apparently not enough to suit the minority’s. that buy every color of QAnon conspiracy theory out there ignoring fact and science altogether, for reasons only known to them.

while verifiable Truth is in fact being buried and/ or misinterpreted by more conspiracy theories than facts that sully or in many cases outright stop further research and development in all areas.
there is always a price and chance of casualties and collateral damage in any fact fed research.
final verdicts are , like historical facts , always questioned by those who have no interest in learning the facts and truth behind them.it is the darkest ,saddest part of human nature brought forth at a time when it is not wanted.

Source. Actual-closed Medical Forum ,non affiliated with any agenda.

The difference between
stupidity and genius
is that genius has limits.

sad so many are not or seem not familiar with the Yellow Brick road, then again some appear schooled in it in spades.
True,fully vaccinated people are dying althoug... (show quote)


A closed medical forum non affiliated with any agenda…LOL

Indeed some have no real interest in learning the truth because its outside their comfort zone.

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Oct 31, 2021 18:26:24   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Rose42 wrote:
A closed medical forum non affiliated with any agenda…LOL

Indeed some have no real interest in learning the truth because its outside their comfort zone.


spellcop strikes again. it left out without posting half the word, however it is not affiliated with any kind of mis or non information unlike some online sources and televised rag media.

people believe what they believe in or out of their or any zone it’s a cruel fact of online social media.
also just because I happen to be privileged to be on such a Forum in management does not mean anyone can.

once years ago one rogue member nearly brought the whole thing down,since taking out the trash ,the problems no longer exist ..... nobody cares what some believe or not believe if only because tens of thousands or more people enjoy less or no headaches.

have a nice day

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Oct 31, 2021 19:21:37   #
Rose42
 
tactful wrote:
spellcop strikes again. it left out without posting half the word, however it is not affiliated with any kind of mis or non information unlike some online sources and televised rag media.

people believe what they believe in or out of their or any zone it’s a cruel fact of online social media.
also just because I happen to be privileged to be on such a Forum in management does not mean anyone can.

once years ago one rogue member nearly brought the whole thing down,since taking out the trash ,the problems no longer exist ..... nobody cares what some believe or not believe if only because tens of thousands or more people enjoy less or no headaches.

have a nice day
spellcop strikes again. it left out without postin... (show quote)


You are so full of it.

Its not only social media. Its every other media. People are asleep at every level and in every profession.

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Nov 2, 2021 02:54:41   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
tactful wrote:


How Fauci Fooled America | Opinion
When the pandemic hit, America needed someone to turn to for advice. The media and public naturally looked to Dr. Anthony Fauci—the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, an esteemed laboratory immunologist, and one of President Donald Trump's chosen COVID advisers. Unfortunately, Dr. Fauci got major epidemiology and public health questions wrong. Reality and scientific studies have now caught up with him.

Here are the key issues:

Natural immunity. By pushing vaccine mandates, Dr. Fauci ignores naturally acquired immunity among the COVID-recovered, of which there are more than 45 million in the United States. Mounting evidence indicates that natural immunity is stronger and longer lasting than vaccine-induced immunity. In a study from Israel, the vaccinated were 27 times more likely to get symptomatic COVID than the unvaccinated who had recovered from a prior infection.

We have known about natural immunity from the disease at least since the Athenian Plague in 430 BC. Pilots, truckers, and longshoremen know about it, and nurses know it better than anyone. Under Fauci's mandates, hospitals are firing heroic nurses who recovered from COVID they contracted while caring for patients. With their superior immunity, they can safely care for the oldest and frailest patients with even lower transmission risk than the vaccinated.

Protecting the elderly. While anyone can get infected, there is more than a thousand-fold difference in mortality risk between the old and the young. After more than 700,000 reported COVID deaths in America, we now know that lockdowns failed to protect high-risk older people. When confronted with the idea of focused protection of the vulnerable, Dr. Fauci admitted he had no idea how to accomplish it, arguing that it would be impossible. That may be understandable for a lab scientist, but public health scientists have presented many concrete suggestions that would have helped, had Fauci and other officials not ignored them.

What can we do now to minimize COVID mortality? Current vaccination efforts should focus on reaching people over 60 who are neither COVID-recovered nor vaccinated, including hard-to-reach, less-affluent people in rural areas and inner cities. Instead, Dr. Fauci has pushed vaccine mandates for children, students, and working-age adults who are already immune—all low-risk populations—causing tremendous disruption to labor markets and hampering the operation of many hospitals.
School closures. Schools are major transmission points for influenza, but not for COVID. While children do get infected, their risk for COVID death is minuscule, lower than their already low risk of dying from the flu. Throughout the 2020 spring wave, Sweden kept daycare and schools open for all its 1.8 million children ages 1 to 15, with no masks, testing, or social distancing. The result? Zero COVID deaths among children and a COVID risk to teachers lower than the average of other professions. In fall 2020, most European countries followed suit, with similar results. Considering the devastating effects of school closures on children, Dr. Fauci's advocacy for school closures may be the single biggest mistake of his career.
https://www.newsweek.com/how-fauci-fooled-america-opinion-1643839?utm_source=PushnamiMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=automatic&UTM=1635808785531&subscriberId=6143b74d7aeb51cecb3fa208

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Nov 2, 2021 10:40:50   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
America 1 wrote:
How Fauci Fooled America | Opinion
When the pandemic hit, America needed someone to turn to for advice. The media and public naturally looked to Dr. Anthony Fauci—the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, an esteemed laboratory immunologist, and one of President Donald Trump's chosen COVID advisers. Unfortunately, Dr. Fauci got major epidemiology and public health questions wrong. Reality and scientific studies have now caught up with him.

Here are the key issues:

Natural immunity. By pushing vaccine mandates, Dr. Fauci ignores naturally acquired immunity among the COVID-recovered, of which there are more than 45 million in the United States. Mounting evidence indicates that natural immunity is stronger and longer lasting than vaccine-induced immunity. In a study from Israel, the vaccinated were 27 times more likely to get symptomatic COVID than the unvaccinated who had recovered from a prior infection.

We have known about natural immunity from the disease at least since the Athenian Plague in 430 BC. Pilots, truckers, and longshoremen know about it, and nurses know it better than anyone. Under Fauci's mandates, hospitals are firing heroic nurses who recovered from COVID they contracted while caring for patients. With their superior immunity, they can safely care for the oldest and frailest patients with even lower transmission risk than the vaccinated.

Protecting the elderly. While anyone can get infected, there is more than a thousand-fold difference in mortality risk between the old and the young. After more than 700,000 reported COVID deaths in America, we now know that lockdowns failed to protect high-risk older people. When confronted with the idea of focused protection of the vulnerable, Dr. Fauci admitted he had no idea how to accomplish it, arguing that it would be impossible. That may be understandable for a lab scientist, but public health scientists have presented many concrete suggestions that would have helped, had Fauci and other officials not ignored them.

What can we do now to minimize COVID mortality? Current vaccination efforts should focus on reaching people over 60 who are neither COVID-recovered nor vaccinated, including hard-to-reach, less-affluent people in rural areas and inner cities. Instead, Dr. Fauci has pushed vaccine mandates for children, students, and working-age adults who are already immune—all low-risk populations—causing tremendous disruption to labor markets and hampering the operation of many hospitals.
School closures. Schools are major transmission points for influenza, but not for COVID. While children do get infected, their risk for COVID death is minuscule, lower than their already low risk of dying from the flu. Throughout the 2020 spring wave, Sweden kept daycare and schools open for all its 1.8 million children ages 1 to 15, with no masks, testing, or social distancing. The result? Zero COVID deaths among children and a COVID risk to teachers lower than the average of other professions. In fall 2020, most European countries followed suit, with similar results. Considering the devastating effects of school closures on children, Dr. Fauci's advocacy for school closures may be the single biggest mistake of his career.
https://www.newsweek.com/how-fauci-fooled-america-opinion-1643839?utm_source=PushnamiMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=automatic&UTM=1635808785531&subscriberId=6143b74d7aeb51cecb3fa208
How Fauci Fooled America | Opinion br When the pan... (show quote)

Great post. I agree Fauci isn't all he's cracked up to be. He is more responsible for this pandemic then most people are aware of . Having several patents on various aspects of this virus going back 20 years

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