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Democrats Unveil Plan to Tax Unrealized Capital Gains
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Oct 28, 2021 17:10:00   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Radiance3 wrote:
To fund the $3.5 trillion redistribution of wealth, Biden is desperate to confiscate assets of those who've worked and earned. This now becomes a government that destroys success, but rewards the dumb, lazy, and non-productive.

There is no motivation to work and achieve. Cause Biden takes most of it and distribute to those who remain idle and violent.I've explained earlier, why unrealized gains must not be taxed.

Biden's policies are the opposite of the Republicans. Republicans rewards success. Biden punishes success.

Taxing unrealized gains will destroy the whole economic structure of the US. Our economic growth is primarily based on stocks sold by corporation to the public. When companies performed well, the stocks rise due to more of demands. However, this will drastically change once Biden tax the unrealized gains. Less people would be motivated to invest in stocks or other assets that grow in value over time. The rich will pull out their assets/and or stocks from the US, and invest in foreign countries.
The drastic down turn of the economy will happen.


All countries in the world don't tax unrealized gains. Even the communist countries don't do that cause they they realize the negative effects that could happen to the entire economy.

Other assets affected are not only stocks. Real estates and other tangible assets that have gone up in value are also affected.

Joe Biden has 4 mansions. The values of those homes have done up in tens of millions more since he purchased several years ago. At the same time Biden uses the taxpayers' money putting up security fence on his investment worth $547,000. Biden is a thief.

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Democrats Unveil Plan to Tax Unrealized Capital Gains
BY JOSEPH LORD October 25, 2021 Updated: October 25, 2021

Senate Democrats plan to reveal a revenue scheme for their multi-trillion dollar budget bill that would tax unrealized capital gains, a move targeted towards the richest of the ultra-wealthy.

The measure would put taxes on unrealized capital gains, but would start at an extremely high threshold. To meet the threshold, an individual would need to make $1 billion or more in income in one year, or $100 million or more for three consecutive years. Only around 700 Americans would be subject to this new tax.

The goal behind the move is to target the wealthiest Americans, whose wealth is primarily in stocks. If a stock owner does not sell their shares of a stock, any profit made is “unrealized” and is exempt from taxation; This would change that, allowing unrealized capital gains to count as income, thus making them subject to taxation.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, who has been supportive of other Democratic revenue schemes, defended the new proposal.

“I wouldn’t call that a wealth tax, but it would help get at capital gains, which are an extraordinarily large part of the incomes of the wealthiest individuals and right now escape taxation until they’re realized,” Yellen said.

This is only the most recent among a slew of proposals by Democrats to finance their landmark budget bill, which they have promised will be entirely paid for.

Other proposals have called for a substantial increase in marginal income tax rates, an increase in the corporate tax rate, and increases in estate tax rates.

Another plan would have allowed the IRS to gain information on the inflows and outflows of any American bank account with more than $600 per year. Sharp backlash from Republicans and private sector businesses forced Democrats to change course on this proposal, raising the threshold to $10,000 per year.

But it is not certain that this new proposal will pass muster with some of the upper chamber’s most important moderate swing votes.

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) has said in the past that he is open to raising income and corporate tax rates, which were slashed in 2017 by the Republican Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

On the other hand, this new proposal may be more than Manchin, who has cited fears about government overreach on the economy, can stomach.

Much more pressingly, Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) must approve of the new scheme.

For weeks, Sinema has reportedly told colleagues that she will not support an increase in the corporate or income tax rate, leaving Democrats scrambling to find new revenue schemes.

After months of no comment, Sinema’s office confirmed these reports Friday.

John LaBombard, a spokesman for Sinema, said that the senator “is committed to ensuring everyday families can get ahead and that we continue creating jobs.”

“She has told her colleagues and the president that simply raising tax rates will not in any way address the challenge of tax avoidance or improve economic competitiveness,” he explained.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blasted the plan on the Senate floor.

Biden and Democrats, said McConnell, “are dreaming up creative new ways to grab literally historic amounts of the American people’s money.”

“The same socialist spending plans that Democrats claim cost $0 somehow also need staggering new tax hikes to pay for them,” McConnell continued.

McConnell then turned to Democrats’ new proposal, saying, “Democrats are so desperate to raise taxes that they’re now proposing to tax money the American people haven’t even made yet.”

Despite weeks of negotiations, Democrats remain undecided on the final form that their reconciliation bill will take. But without a green light from moderates on this newest proposal, Democrats will once again be forced back to the drawing board if they hope to meet their promise to craft a fully paid-for bill.
i To fund the $3.5 trillion redistribution of we... (show quote)


***Joe Biden has 4 mansions. The values of those homes have done up in tens of millions more since he purchased several years ago. At the same time Biden uses the taxpayers' money putting up security fence on his investment worth $547,000. Biden is a thief.

>>>If that tax were to eventually drift down to lower level millionaires, like biden, and they always do; it would cost biden about $80,000 for the new fence. Now that would be funny. A president taxing himself.

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Oct 28, 2021 17:41:37   #
Radiance3
 
[quote=LogicallyRight]***Joe Biden has 4 mansions. The values of those homes have done up in tens of millions more since he purchased several years ago. At the same time Biden uses the taxpayers' money putting up security fence on his investment worth $547,000. Biden is a thief.

>>>If that tax were to eventually drift down to lower level millionaires, like biden, and they always do; it would cost biden about $80,000 for the new fence. Now that would be funny. A president taxing himself.[/quote)
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Biden would not do that. He would exempt himself. We have two justice system at present. The DEMS in power are exempted when they commit crimes. But when republicans though innocent, are always accused and harassed. E.g. The parents of the school children.

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Oct 28, 2021 19:00:17   #
son of witless
 
MajG wrote:
That worked GREAT for me. I always steal from the poor. They have all the money, right?


I like the way you think. No use stealing from the middle class. Biden, Pelosi, and Chucky Schumer are stealing all they have.

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Oct 29, 2021 15:31:38   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Clown world.



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Oct 29, 2021 16:57:53   #
Radiance3
 
the waker wrote:
Clown world.


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Biden is preparing to pay up to $1 million each illegal child for the sufferings they had from being separated from their illegal parents. Latest report, Biden has now prepared $1 billion for this legal suits filed by illegal aliens.

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Oct 30, 2021 00:04:16   #
Radiance3
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Everything McConnell blasted was things that would benefit…You !
It’s all paid for.
Once the people who Owe Taxes , start paying them we won’t need to be
under funded.
Paying their fair share to live in a free country that allowed them and helped them create their personal wealth. Should encourage them to give a little back and pay a little forward for kids and grandkids.
Bottom line is investing in America is quite different from spending . Spending Is giving money to China Importers to make more stuff overseas.
Whereas investing includes paid college tuitions, child care for workers.
Everything McConnell blasted was things that would... (show quote)

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The 1% rich pay 40% of all the total tax. The 50% of the household who filed pay zero (0) taxes. Here is the graph.

The 1st graph is the income earned.
The second (bottom) graph are the taxes paid.

The blue which is the 1% pay the highest 40% of the taxes, the fact that there are only 1% of the population that pay taxes.

Biden is going to raise individual tax of the top 1%. $400,000 and above to 39.6%. Plus added 3% total would be 42.6%.

The US currently has this tax brackets.
e U.S. currently has seven federal income tax brackets, with rates of 10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35% and 37%.

Biden will raise corporate tax from 21% to 26.5%.

Here are the various kinds of taxes the rich pay.
1. Sales taxes. Sales taxes are taxes on goods and services purchased.
2. Excise taxes.
3. Payroll taxes.
4. Property taxes.
5. Estate taxes.
6. Gift taxes.
7. State income tax.

Note: Unrealized capital gains is not income. It becomes income when the asset or assets are sold, then comes in the realized gains. This is how gain is calculated : Total sales, minus acquisition cost, minus improvements if the asset is real estate, minus the selling cost and taxes paid. Then the net gain is the taxable income.

For stocks total sales, minus acquisition cost, minus selling costs, or brokers fees. The difference left is net capital gain.

That is why it is illegal to tax the unrealized capital gains. There are so much cost involved to be considered deducted, and that could not be accurately calculated until the assets are sold. Besides values of those investments could go up and down depending upon the status of the economy. When the capital gain is taxed, and all of a sudden after the taxes are paid, the economy plunged, therefore the assets decreased in value. You therefore paid for tax for the gain that did not exist. That is crazy. It is extortion. This will crash the economy. it will be disastrous to our economy, and Biden must know that. Besides, many investors will pull out their accounts and invest in foreign countries . The worst thing that could happen is will destroy our economy, and won't come back. The economic advisors for president Biden must discuss all these negative results if he taxes capital gains. Currently the financial system in GAAP(Generally Accepted Accounting Principles) consider taxing capital gains illegal, and not appropriate. it is not yet considered income.



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