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Oct 16, 2021 21:43:53   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
TexaCan wrote:
Yep! We have some serious problems here in our school system. If we could kick the teacher’s union out it would be a big start in the right direction! We have parents standing up and fighting for their kid's rights. That’s a good sign!

It’s still a hell of a lot better than your system in China under the CCP and Xi that maintains total control and ruled by fear! We still have a fighting chance if all parents will get off their butts and demand that the children’s education comes first.

We are still a very blessed nation………and apparently very popular according to all the illegals streaming across our border!
Yep! We have some serious problems here in our sc... (show quote)


It's doubtful that the unions will ever be broken... And more doubtful that more than a handful of parents even know what their children are being taught...

Chuckle... The Chinese education system focuses on all the things you want your system to focus on...

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Oct 16, 2021 23:06:00   #
moldyoldy
 
Rose42 wrote:
People who have nothing to offer but incendiary rhetoric are part of the problem not the solution. The problem wasn’t really hidden, just as things like the cavalier attitude about murders in cities like Chicago isn’t hidden. The latter draws no outrage like it should. So BLM doesn’t really care too much for black lives.
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Yeah there was a reason for the Floyd protests. And the violence and riots. None of it was by chance. Mobs are easy to incite.




Chicago is number 28 in per capital murders. A lot of sleepy southern cities are excelling.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/

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Oct 16, 2021 23:17:25   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Chicago is number 28 in per capital murders. A lot of sleepy southern cities are excelling.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/


Chuckle...

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Oct 16, 2021 23:21:35   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Chuckle...


I take it Chinese citizens aren't armed, are they.

No ARs? Self protection via martial arts instead?

Fat gun-weilding Americans would still be no match, I'm guessing

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Oct 16, 2021 23:22:22   #
Lily
 
https://mises.org/wire/pre-columbian-america-wasnt-exactly-paradise-freedom

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Oct 16, 2021 23:23:00   #
Lily
 
lpnmajor wrote:
That's right........................just ask the Native Americans.


https://mises.org/wire/pre-columbian-america-wasnt-exactly-paradise-freedom

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Oct 16, 2021 23:55:27   #
Cuda2020
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
I take it Chinese citizens aren't armed, are they.

No ARs? Self protection via martial arts instead?

Fat gun-weilding Americans would still be no match, I'm guessing


Think you got that right.

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Oct 17, 2021 07:56:50   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Bill was racially discriminatory, as it was intended to accommodate Jim Crow laws. Due to the discrimination by local and state governments, as well as by private actors in housing and education, the G.I. failed to benefit African Americans as it did with white Americans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
G.I. Bill - Wikipedia

https://www.history.com/.amp/news/gi-bill-black-wwii-veterans-benefits



African Americans, women, and the GI Bill
Though the GI Bill itself did not bar female or African American veterans from enjoying its benefits, discrimination at the structural level often limited the GI Bill's benefits to white men. Though the program was federally funded, its implementation was directed at the state and local level by the Veterans Administration (VA), which was almost entirely white and closely affiliated with the pro-segregation American Legion. VA job counselors frequently steered African American veterans who applied for tuition benefits towards vocational training instead of university courses. In some cases, black applicants were told that they needed no further education since the job market had no place for blacks as skilled workers--only as menial laborers.
Even if African American veterans could attain GI Bill tuition money, it was far from certain that they could surmount entrenched prejudice and segregation at the university level to complete their educations. Many colleges had either stated or implied caps on the number of black students they would admit. Weary after enduring the insults of the segregated military, most black veterans elected to attend Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) when possible, even if it meant waiting a year or more to matriculate due to overcrowding. HBCUs were few and far between in the north, however, so black veterans above the Mason-Dixon line had even fewer opportunities to pursue higher education.

Furthermore, even though African Americans were entitled, in principle, to the same loan guarantees as whites, they faced serious barriers to homeownership. Many banks refused to loan money to blacks, federal guaranty or not. Suburban neighborhoods often boasted of restrictive covenants that banned African American families from purchasing homes in their subdivisions. As more and more white families moved to the white-picket-fenced suburbs characteristic of 1950s America, black citizens were confined to decaying inner cities.
The GI Bill's legacy
The GI Bill, as a last gasp of the New Deal, demonstrated a growing sense that the US government was obligated to protect the rights of Americans, including the right to work and education as compensation for military service.^6

The GI Bill was also key in creating the affluent American society of the 1950s and 1960s. But the uneven distribution of its benefits would have ramifications for years to come. Chief among these was the growing resentment of African Americans to being shut out of schools, neighborhoods, and entire economic brackets as the postwar boom stopped at the color line. Their frustration would soon erupt into the modern Civil Rights Movement.
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/postwarera/postwar-era/a/african-americans-women-and-the-gi-bill

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Oct 17, 2021 08:05:44   #
Rose42
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Chicago is number 28 in per capital murders. A lot of sleepy southern cities are excelling.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/


Trying to move the goaposts as usual because you have no answer. BLM won’t address the black on black violence in Chicago - or anywhere else - because that would take real work. Protesting is easy. Riling people up is easy. Actually working for change takes a lot more effort and thats something they don’t do

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Oct 17, 2021 08:21:21   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JW wrote:
“An unrelenting stream of immigration, nonstop, nonstop. Folks like me who were Caucasian, of European descent for the first time in 2017 will be in an absolute minority in the United States of America, absolute minority. Fewer than 50 percent of the people in America from then and on will be White European stock. That’s not a bad thing. That’s as a source of our strength.” Joe Biden

One of our vaunted Lefties, whose name I won’t single out, recently echoed those words, praising our “wonderful diversity”.

True national diversity has never been accepted in this country or anyplace else on Earth. Signs in shop windows and newspaper ads saying “Help wanted, Irish need not apply”, were a common fixture when the Irish first came.

Legislation was attempted in Congress to prohibit Chinese people from being allowed to come to America at all. Congress limited Chinese immigration to no more than 15 Chinese arriving on a single ship.

Jews, Poles, Germans and more have been the targets of discrimination to the extent that they changed their names to hide their identities well into the 20th century. Bernard Schwartz, a Jew and well known and lauded actor is unknown, but everyone knows him by his stage name, Tony Curtis. Tomaz Kendzierski tired of being the butt of Polish jokes and became Tom Kent and Schmidt became Smith at the same time that Sauerkraut became Liberty Cabbage.

In the past, most immigrants never really became Americans. Oh, they obtained citizenship papers, I got mine, and they attended school as kids and school board meetings later as adults. Many served in the military. They tried to fit in as best they could when they had to interact with their American neighbors but they were always just a little bit different and their neighbors always made sure they knew it, often unintentionally.

For their children it was different. They became real Americans. That isn’t happening today. It is not happening because of the Liberal ideal of diversity. Liberals have destroyed virtually all of the social pressures that led to assimilation.

The English language is predominant but it is no longer universal or even required.

The special meaning of the flag, that primary symbol that once said were have arrived and this is now our homeland has been reduced to a piece of cloth not worthy of respect in its treatment. Thanks to Liberal diversity, we now see flags of many nations in American parades.

The Pledge of Allegiance is no longer taken for granted as the way school children start the school day. Most don’t even know the words.

Publicly disrespecting the national anthem has become all the rage in our country today.

Viet Namese, Somalis, Mexicans, Haitians, Colombians, Cubans have all chosen to live separately in their own ethnic enclaves exactly like all of the other immigrant groups did in the past. Discrimination goes both ways. It happens because we are a gregarious species; we need to be able to feel an association with our neighbors. We don’t like standing apart from the crowd. It makes us feel vulnerable and very uncomfortable. It saps our energy.

Joe Biden claims diversity is a source of strength. Thinking back into American history, was President Lincoln wrong when he declared that a house divided cannot stand. Diversity always results in division. The Left’s celebration of multi-culturalism ensured social division. Having different languages establishes borders between communities as does having different values. Those are dividing characteristics. They do not really appear to be a source of strength.

In part two, let's look at some examples of the wonderfully diverse nation we have created.
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The diversity in Ethnicity he will never quell~~ the bigotry/racism/ hate and divide this country also bears is “because of our diverse nature.” It is what is and there will always be those believe themself or themselves better than others.. it will also never end in this country because hate and divide is force fed in every Political venture, used to suppress or control the mass..They myst break us if they are to succeed..

Now used to break a strong nation by creating its divide, radicalism, in an attempt to “ fundamental transform this nation..”

The heat is on~~ can we survive the internal enemy??? Yes, we absolutely can and will

While they try to rip the very values of a society raised in freedoms based on our Constitution, Bill of Rights etc. we will stand against them and just as we have prevailed for 245 years we will continue to do so…

This rules!!! Has and always will.. Stand proud, protect and defend that which we hold so dear~~
This rules!!! Has and always will.. Stand proud, p...

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Oct 17, 2021 09:00:37   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
skyrider wrote:
But just to be fair , at least when Chinese students graduate, they can read and write.


And they read and write only what they are allowed…….but! That seems to be the agenda of the liberals!

Do we give in or do we fight for our kids, our country? And NO, all you snowflakes…….I’m not advocating Civil War, at least, not yet! 😎

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Oct 17, 2021 09:32:21   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
It's doubtful that the unions will ever be broken... And more doubtful that more than a handful of parents even know what their children are being taught...

Chuckle... The Chinese education system focuses on all the things you want your system to focus on...


COVID did one thing good! It opened the eyes of many parents and what and how their children were being taught in school. We have two grandkids that are teachers, so we know the struggle of some of the conservative teachers and what they face under this liberal agenda. More and more parents are standing up for their kids!

Orientals have always concentrated on education, but what good is the education of young Chinese if their lives are controlled by the CCP……as long as they do as they are told, all is well!

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Oct 17, 2021 09:52:41   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
TexaCan wrote:
And they read and write only what they are allowed…….but! That seems to be the agenda of the liberals!

Do we give in or do we fight for our kids, our country? And NO, all you snowflakes…….I’m not advocating Civil War, at least, not yet! 😎


Thats called “indoctrination” Tex~~The more they “ recite” what they are taught to say the more the progressive socialist see how effective they are with at least some and that some is dwindling~~ thus their fears in ramping up everything they can~~ Most telling~~~


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Oct 17, 2021 11:37:12   #
Cuda2020
 
America 1 wrote:
African Americans, women, and the GI Bill
Though the GI Bill itself did not bar female or African American veterans from enjoying its benefits, discrimination at the structural level often limited the GI Bill's benefits to white men. Though the program was federally funded, its implementation was directed at the state and local level by the Veterans Administration (VA), which was almost entirely white and closely affiliated with the pro-segregation American Legion. VA job counselors frequently steered African American veterans who applied for tuition benefits towards vocational training instead of university courses. In some cases, black applicants were told that they needed no further education since the job market had no place for blacks as skilled workers--only as menial laborers.
Even if African American veterans could attain GI Bill tuition money, it was far from certain that they could surmount entrenched prejudice and segregation at the university level to complete their educations. Many colleges had either stated or implied caps on the number of black students they would admit. Weary after enduring the insults of the segregated military, most black veterans elected to attend Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) when possible, even if it meant waiting a year or more to matriculate due to overcrowding. HBCUs were few and far between in the north, however, so black veterans above the Mason-Dixon line had even fewer opportunities to pursue higher education.

Furthermore, even though African Americans were entitled, in principle, to the same loan guarantees as whites, they faced serious barriers to homeownership. Many banks refused to loan money to blacks, federal guaranty or not. Suburban neighborhoods often boasted of restrictive covenants that banned African American families from purchasing homes in their subdivisions. As more and more white families moved to the white-picket-fenced suburbs characteristic of 1950s America, black citizens were confined to decaying inner cities.
The GI Bill's legacy
The GI Bill, as a last gasp of the New Deal, demonstrated a growing sense that the US government was obligated to protect the rights of Americans, including the right to work and education as compensation for military service.^6

The GI Bill was also key in creating the affluent American society of the 1950s and 1960s. But the uneven distribution of its benefits would have ramifications for years to come. Chief among these was the growing resentment of African Americans to being shut out of schools, neighborhoods, and entire economic brackets as the postwar boom stopped at the color line. Their frustration would soon erupt into the modern Civil Rights Movement.
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/postwarera/postwar-era/a/african-americans-women-and-the-gi-bill
African Americans, women, and the GI Bill br Thoug... (show quote)


Interesting and excellent report A1 thank you.

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Oct 17, 2021 12:09:09   #
moldyoldy
 
America 1 wrote:
African Americans, women, and the GI Bill
Though the GI Bill itself did not bar female or African American veterans from enjoying its benefits, discrimination at the structural level often limited the GI Bill's benefits to white men. Though the program was federally funded, its implementation was directed at the state and local level by the Veterans Administration (VA), which was almost entirely white and closely affiliated with the pro-segregation American Legion. VA job counselors frequently steered African American veterans who applied for tuition benefits towards vocational training instead of university courses. In some cases, black applicants were told that they needed no further education since the job market had no place for blacks as skilled workers--only as menial laborers.
Even if African American veterans could attain GI Bill tuition money, it was far from certain that they could surmount entrenched prejudice and segregation at the university level to complete their educations. Many colleges had either stated or implied caps on the number of black students they would admit. Weary after enduring the insults of the segregated military, most black veterans elected to attend Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) when possible, even if it meant waiting a year or more to matriculate due to overcrowding. HBCUs were few and far between in the north, however, so black veterans above the Mason-Dixon line had even fewer opportunities to pursue higher education.

Furthermore, even though African Americans were entitled, in principle, to the same loan guarantees as whites, they faced serious barriers to homeownership. Many banks refused to loan money to blacks, federal guaranty or not. Suburban neighborhoods often boasted of restrictive covenants that banned African American families from purchasing homes in their subdivisions. As more and more white families moved to the white-picket-fenced suburbs characteristic of 1950s America, black citizens were confined to decaying inner cities.
The GI Bill's legacy
The GI Bill, as a last gasp of the New Deal, demonstrated a growing sense that the US government was obligated to protect the rights of Americans, including the right to work and education as compensation for military service.^6

The GI Bill was also key in creating the affluent American society of the 1950s and 1960s. But the uneven distribution of its benefits would have ramifications for years to come. Chief among these was the growing resentment of African Americans to being shut out of schools, neighborhoods, and entire economic brackets as the postwar boom stopped at the color line. Their frustration would soon erupt into the modern Civil Rights Movement.
https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/postwarera/postwar-era/a/african-americans-women-and-the-gi-bill
African Americans, women, and the GI Bill br Thoug... (show quote)



You actually reinforce what I said.

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