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Oct 15, 2021 13:24:19   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
debeda wrote:
I would also like to see some manners and morals return. If you go to deep red areas of the country you will see that. The deep blue cities are cess pits, as are college campuses and many college towns.



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Oct 15, 2021 13:46:32   #
woodguru
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
You were right in that instance. That was neither right or left. Your initial rant was in its heart, all about blaming the right, for the errors and liberalisn of the left, that created little kids like that.


See, I actually stayed away from right or left with that story because I don't have a clue what the guys politics were. It was more a commentary on changing parenting values, when I grew up no kid would have ever hassled an adult.

That being the farming community it was, our friends were involved with far more conservative farmers and ranchers than liberals, so I'd be surprised if this was a case of liberal upbringing....not knowing I chose not to speculate as you have, it didn't matter.

My daughter when she was in kindergarten or first grade age went to a school for gifted kids in a liberal area that had a different learn at your own pace model. It was a liberal thing for sure...and say what you will about libs, they tend to be very health food conscious and feed their kids a junk free diet. My daughter grew up with no sodas, and never did develop a taste for them, she would drink water rather than a soda...my point here is show me a hundred liberal raised kids and a hundred conservatives, and there will be more fatties in the conservative bunch, whatever else liberals are they tend to be in very good shape and eat less junk.

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Oct 15, 2021 13:47:23   #
woodguru
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
You are so wrong! Wishful thinking won’t get you anywhere zombie


So wrong about how we were raised?

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Oct 15, 2021 14:34:34   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
debeda wrote:
I would also like to see some manners and morals return. If you go to deep red areas of the country you will see that. The deep blue cities are cess pits, as are college campuses and many college towns.


Agree, that has been my experience and I've lived on both sides of the country

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Oct 15, 2021 15:55:42   #
debeda
 
microphor wrote:
Agree, that has been my experience and I've lived on both sides of the country


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Oct 15, 2021 15:56:44   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
woodguru wrote:
See, I actually stayed away from right or left with that story because I don't have a clue what the guys politics were. It was more a commentary on changing parenting values, when I grew up no kid would have ever hassled an adult.

That being the farming community it was, our friends were involved with far more conservative farmers and ranchers than liberals, so I'd be surprised if this was a case of liberal upbringing....not knowing I chose not to speculate as you have, it didn't matter.

My daughter when she was in kindergarten or first grade age went to a school for gifted kids in a liberal area that had a different learn at your own pace model. It was a liberal thing for sure...and say what you will about libs, they tend to be very health food conscious and feed their kids a junk free diet. My daughter grew up with no sodas, and never did develop a taste for them, she would drink water rather than a soda...my point here is show me a hundred liberal raised kids and a hundred conservatives, and there will be more fatties in the conservative bunch, whatever else liberals are they tend to be in very good shape and eat less junk.
See, I actually stayed away from right or left wit... (show quote)


Your statement here is BS.

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Oct 15, 2021 16:02:25   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
woodguru wrote:
See, I actually stayed away from right or left with that story because I don't have a clue what the guys politics were. It was more a commentary on changing parenting values, when I grew up no kid would have ever hassled an adult.

That being the farming community it was, our friends were involved with far more conservative farmers and ranchers than liberals, so I'd be surprised if this was a case of liberal upbringing....not knowing I chose not to speculate as you have, it didn't matter.

My daughter when she was in kindergarten or first grade age went to a school for gifted kids in a liberal area that had a different learn at your own pace model. It was a liberal thing for sure...and say what you will about libs, they tend to be very health food conscious and feed their kids a junk free diet. My daughter grew up with no sodas, and never did develop a taste for them, she would drink water rather than a soda...my point here is show me a hundred liberal raised kids and a hundred conservatives, and there will be more fatties in the conservative bunch, whatever else liberals are they tend to be in very good shape and eat less junk.
See, I actually stayed away from right or left wit... (show quote)




Then, why is it that athletes tend. strongly, to be conservative?

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Oct 15, 2021 17:18:20   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
woodguru wrote:
See, I stayed away from right or left with that story because I don't have a clue what the guy's politics were. It was more a commentary on changing parenting values, when I grew up no kid would have ever hassled an adult.

That being the farming community it was, our friends were involved with far more conservative farmers and ranchers than liberals, so I'd be surprised if this was a case of liberal upbringing....not knowing I chose not to speculate as you have, it didn't matter.

My daughter when she was in kindergarten or first grade age went to a school for gifted kids in a liberal area that had a different learn at your pace model. It was a liberal thing for sure...and say what you will about libs, they tend to be very healthy food conscious and feed their kids a junk-free diet. My daughter grew up with no sodas, and never did develop a taste for them, she would drink water rather than a soda...my point here is showing me a hundred liberal raised kids and a hundred conservatives, and there will be more fatties in the conservative bunch, whatever else liberals are they tend to be in very good shape and eat less junk.
See, I stayed away from right or left with that st... (show quote)


Have not touched a soda in several years, I must be a liberal and don't know it.
Or show it with a 33-inch waist.
I'm from a family of 7 kids, and no fatties.

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Oct 15, 2021 17:31:09   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
America 1 wrote:
Have not touched a soda in several years, I must be a liberal and don't know it.
Or show it with a 33-inch waist.
I'm from a family of 7 kids, and no fatties.


His generalizations tend to be made up in his fantasy brain.

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Oct 15, 2021 17:55:14   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
woodguru wrote:
See, I actually stayed away from right or left with that story because I don't have a clue what the guys politics were. It was more a commentary on changing parenting values, when I grew up no kid would have ever hassled an adult.

That being the farming community it was, our friends were involved with far more conservative farmers and ranchers than liberals, so I'd be surprised if this was a case of liberal upbringing....not knowing I chose not to speculate as you have, it didn't matter.

My daughter when she was in kindergarten or first grade age went to a school for gifted kids in a liberal area that had a different learn at your own pace model. It was a liberal thing for sure...and say what you will about libs, they tend to be very health food conscious and feed their kids a junk free diet. My daughter grew up with no sodas, and never did develop a taste for them, she would drink water rather than a soda...my point here is show me a hundred liberal raised kids and a hundred conservatives, and there will be more fatties in the conservative bunch, whatever else liberals are they tend to be in very good shape and eat less junk.
See, I actually stayed away from right or left wit... (show quote)




I'm 77, weigh 176 lbs. am 5' 10", work out on a kickboard for 1,000 yds. daily, have only smoked 10-20 packs of cigarettes in my lifetime and none since 1976, have had about 2-3 sodas in the past 10 years, and drink a 16 oz. Snapple for lunch, cold cereal, berries in goat milk and a 12 0z. bottle of beer or 4-4 oz of wine with water for dinner. Everyone at the gym is a conservative.

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Oct 15, 2021 17:59:43   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
youngwilliam wrote:
His generalizations tend to be made up in his fantasy brain.


And a little fed up at having to feed and support those lazy liberals.

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Oct 15, 2021 18:02:23   #
Hug
 
woodguru wrote:
I am 66, I was raised to open doors for a lady, to take my hat off when I enter a home or room, to chew with my frigging mouth shut...where did that parental guidance go? I have seen more bratty belligerent kids lipping off to adults in the last 15 or 20 years than you ever would have seen with me or the kids I raised. I know I was raised not to make any comments about someone in hearing range, now we get screaming and yelling at people and calling them names. I have seen 10 year old kids openly making fun of a fat lady right in front of their parents, that would have not been tolerated when I was a kid...nor would it be tolerated by any decent parent.

I'm thinking this somehow ties in with the freedoms loving crowd, they being raised by tyrannical parents went the other way and spawned a couple of generations of spoiled rotten brats that lip off to adults, chew with their mouths open smacking up a storm that can be heard from 20 feet away.

These little things are indicators that there was a very poorly executed parental guidance going on...the beneficiaries of this freedom now seem to believe that freedom involves not giving a damn about anyone else's welfare or feelings, as freedom seems to involve yelling and racial slurs to people they don't believe should be here because they aren't white or something like that.

The divide in this country comes down to the difference between considerate nice people and uncaring butt wipes that were not raised with any meaningful guidance about how to treat other people.

The right is all about confrontation, anger, pissing people you don't like off even though you don't know them, is this supposed to be what great American values means? I'd like to see some old school American values brought back, this country could use some civility and respect for others people don't know.
I am 66, I was raised to open doors for a lady, to... (show quote)

To achieve this goal, the Democrats would have to return to the traditional Democratic principles.

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Oct 15, 2021 20:16:46   #
The Ms.
 
woodguru wrote:
I am 66, I was raised to open doors for a lady, to take my hat off when I enter a home or room, to chew with my frigging mouth shut...where did that parental guidance go? I have seen more bratty belligerent kids lipping off to adults in the last 15 or 20 years than you ever would have seen with me or the kids I raised. I know I was raised not to make any comments about someone in hearing range, now we get screaming and yelling at people and calling them names. I have seen 10 year old kids openly making fun of a fat lady right in front of their parents, that would have not been tolerated when I was a kid...nor would it be tolerated by any decent parent.

I'm thinking this somehow ties in with the freedoms loving crowd, they being raised by tyrannical parents went the other way and spawned a couple of generations of spoiled rotten brats that lip off to adults, chew with their mouths open smacking up a storm that can be heard from 20 feet away.

These little things are indicators that there was a very poorly executed parental guidance going on...the beneficiaries of this freedom now seem to believe that freedom involves not giving a damn about anyone else's welfare or feelings, as freedom seems to involve yelling and racial slurs to people they don't believe should be here because they aren't white or something like that.

The divide in this country comes down to the difference between considerate nice people and uncaring butt wipes that were not raised with any meaningful guidance about how to treat other people.

The right is all about confrontation, anger, pissing people you don't like off even though you don't know them, is this supposed to be what great American values means? I'd like to see some old school American values brought back, this country could use some civility and respect for others people don't know.
I am 66, I was raised to open doors for a lady, to... (show quote)


And I thought you were only 6!

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Oct 15, 2021 20:28:13   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
>>>You make some valid points along the way that we on the right agree with. And then in the last paragraph you screw up your whole rant.
***The right is all about confrontation, anger, pissing people you don't like off even though you don't know them, is this supposed to be what great American values means?
>>>Just for example. It is the left who continually denies through confrontation the right for people on the right to speak on college campuses. It is the left who rioted all summer or 2020 with outrageous demands. It is the left with in your face confrontations in restaurants and following women into ladies rooms. On and on

*** I'd like to see some old school American values brought back, this country could use some civility and respect for others people don't know.
>>>We on the right would also like to see that. And that means reigning in the demands of the left, those that stand in the way of rightfully disciplining kids, and on and on.

Give me a break. Just another hack piece by Woody, attempting to deceive and blame instead of taking responsibility for your ideologies missteps and false directions.

Logically Right
>>>You make some valid points along the w... (show quote)



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Oct 15, 2021 20:46:49   #
son of witless
 
woodguru wrote:
I am 66, I was raised to open doors for a lady, to take my hat off when I enter a home or room, to chew with my frigging mouth shut...where did that parental guidance go? I have seen more bratty belligerent kids lipping off to adults in the last 15 or 20 years than you ever would have seen with me or the kids I raised. I know I was raised not to make any comments about someone in hearing range, now we get screaming and yelling at people and calling them names. I have seen 10 year old kids openly making fun of a fat lady right in front of their parents, that would have not been tolerated when I was a kid...nor would it be tolerated by any decent parent.

I'm thinking this somehow ties in with the freedoms loving crowd, they being raised by tyrannical parents went the other way and spawned a couple of generations of spoiled rotten brats that lip off to adults, chew with their mouths open smacking up a storm that can be heard from 20 feet away.

These little things are indicators that there was a very poorly executed parental guidance going on...the beneficiaries of this freedom now seem to believe that freedom involves not giving a damn about anyone else's welfare or feelings, as freedom seems to involve yelling and racial slurs to people they don't believe should be here because they aren't white or something like that.

The divide in this country comes down to the difference between considerate nice people and uncaring butt wipes that were not raised with any meaningful guidance about how to treat other people.

The right is all about confrontation, anger, pissing people you don't like off even though you don't know them, is this supposed to be what great American values means? I'd like to see some old school American values brought back, this country could use some civility and respect for others people don't know.
I am 66, I was raised to open doors for a lady, to... (show quote)


That is a nice analysis if your reality is unreal. It's nice how you lump 10 year olds making fun of a fat lady with those on the right. You present zero evidence for your assertion. Then you say the right is all about " confrontation, anger, pissing people you don't like " . Apparently you never heard of BLM, Antifa, or Congresswoman Maxine Waters.

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