American Vet

f questioning the results of a presidential election were a crime, as many have asserted in the wake of the controversial 2020 election and its aftermath, then much of the Democratic Party and media establishment should have been indicted for their behavior following the 2016 election. In fact, the last time Democrats fully accepted the legitimacy of a presidential election they lost was in 1988.

After the 2000 election, which hinged on the results of a recount in Florida, Democrats smeared President George W. Bush as "selected, not elected." When Bush won re-election against then senator John Kerry in 2004, many on the left claimed that voting machines in Ohio had been rigged to deliver fraudulent votes to Bush.

HBO even produced and aired the Emmy-nominated "Hacking Democracy," a documentary claiming to show that "votes can be stolen without a trace," adding fuel to the conspiracy theory fire that the results of the 2004 election were illegitimate. But nothing holds a candle to what happened in 2016 after Donald Trump’s surprising defeat of former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.

Rather than accept that Trump won and Clinton lost fair and square, the political and media establishments desperately sought to explain away Trump’s victory. They settled on a destructive conspiracy theory that crippled the government, empowered America’s adversaries, and illegally targeted innocent private citizens whose only crime was not supporting Hillary Clinton.

The Russia collusion hoax had all the elements of an election conspiracy theory, including baseless claims of hacked voting totals, illegal voter suppression, and treasonous collaboration with a foreign power. Pundits and officials speculated openly that President Trump was a foreign asset and that members of his circle were under the thumb of the Kremlin.

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But despite the patent absurdity of these claims, the belief that Trump stole the 2016 election had the support of the most powerful institutions, individuals, and even government agencies in the country. To question the legitimacy of the 2016 election wasn’t to undermine ourdemocracy; it was considered by some of our most elevated public figures a patriotic duty.

"You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you," Clinton told her followers in 2019.

"I know he’s an illegitimate president," Clinton claimed of Trump a few months later. She even said during an interview with "CBS Sunday Morning" that "voter suppression and voter purging and hacking" were the reasons for her defeat.

Former president Jimmy Carter agreed. "[Trump] lost the election and was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf," he told NPR in 2019. "Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016."

Their view was shared by most prominent Democrats in Congress. Representative John Lewis of Georgia, for example, said he was skipping Trump’s inauguration in 2016 because he believed Trump was illegitimate: "[T]he Russians participated in helping this man get elected.... That’s not right. That’s not fair. That’s not an open democratic process." Lewis had also skipped the inauguration of President George W. Bush, claiming Bush, too, was an illegitimate president.

A few members of Congress joined him in 2001. By 2017, one out of three Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives boycotted Trump’s inauguration. Many said they refused to take part in the installation of an "illegitimate" president.

The corporate media didn’t condemn leading Democrats’ refusal to accept the results of the 2016 election. In fact, the media amplified the most speculative claims of how Trump and Russia had colluded to steal the election from Clinton. They dutifully regurgitated inaccurate leaks from corrupt intelligence officials suggesting Trump and his staff had committed treason. They ran stories arguing that Republicans who didn’t support their conspiracy theory were insufficiently loyal to the country or somehow compromised themselves.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2020-election-investigated-discussed-mollie-hemingway

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

American, The Trump cult has not presented any evidence of any kind of wrongdoing on the part of any Democrats in the last Presidential election. To the contrary, even the Republican state election officials said that it was a fair and honest election.
Trump is a genuine sociopath, as diagnosed by Mary Trump, who has a Phd in clinical psychology, and has known him all her life. Trump is the worst POTUS in US history. He has called many of our most precious democratic institutions into question, like the election process, and the free press. It's time to chuck Trump and all his crooked cronies into prison.

American Vet

"American, The Trump cult has not presented any evidence of any kind of wrongdoing on the part of any Democrats in the last Presidential election. To the contrary, even the Republican state election officials said that it was a fair and honest election."

Apparently you failed to read my post. I simply pointed out that President Trump wasn't the first. The groundwork was laid by hillary....so democrats are simply reaping what they sowed.


"Trump is a genuine sociopath, as diagnosed by Mary Trump, who has a Phd in clinical psychology, and has known him all her life."

And exactly when did she assess/evaluate him? She actually should have her ckinicl psychology license revoked for making such a statement without ever assessing the patient. Additionally, she violated the HIPAA laws.


"Trump is the worst POTUS in US history. He has called many of our most precious democratic institutions into question, like the election process, and the free press. It's time to chuck Trump and all his crooked cronies into prison"

Blah, blah. You didn't like him.

I (and most Americans) question the "free press". It is horribly slanted and not to be trusted.

A study of people's attitudes toward the press finds that distrust goes deeper than just partisanship and down to how journalists define their mission.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-04-14/study-finds-people-want-more-than-watchdogs-for-journalists

For the 2020 American Views survey, Gallup and Knight polled more than 20,000 U.S. adults and found continued pessimism and further partisan entrenchment about how the news media delivers on its democratic mandate for factual, trustworthy information. Many Americans feel the media’s critical roles of informing and holding those in power accountable are compromised by increasing bias. As such, Americans have not only lost confidence in the ideal of an objective media, they believe news organizations actively support the partisan divide
https://knightfoundation.org/reports/american-views-2020-trust-media-and-democracy/


https://cnsnews.com/article/national/michael-w-chapman/gallup-only-7-americans-have-great-deal-trust-media-34-none-all






Do you think biden and son will be investigated for what appears to be their crimes?

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

American, The far right wing press, including Fox, has been broadcasting misinformation for so long that I doubt if they would recognize the truth if it bit them on the ass. I remember the earliest outrageous Republican remarks during the Clinton administration. I thought it was strange considering that we enjoyed peace and prosperity during that period. Hillary was right when she called the Republican, conservatives guilty of creating a great right wing conspiracy.

American Vet

LOL

Conspiracy theorists.....

So exactly what 'misinformation' has Fox broadcast? You ELWNJ keep saying this but can't produce anything - while the MSM is guilty of enormous amounts. "Trump collusion".....