drlarrygino wrote:
No wonder we can never unite with you. Facts allude you.
Nah, as Kellyann Conway said, “You’re into “alternative facts”.
Moldy, get real. That was then, this is now. Think about when Hawaii was made a state, their very different culture was celebrated and embraced. Think about "islamophobia". If we went on actions by Islam hundreds of years ago we would attack those people on sight and NEVER let them into our countries, or near our families. Comparing what happened hundreds of years ago to today is ingenuous in the extreme.
That being said, we westerners, when settling the US, would've been smart to incorporate with the indigenous peoples rather than "conquering" them. They knew how to live in harmony with nature.
moldyoldy wrote:
https://news.ubc.ca/2020/10/06/ancient-texts-show-jesus-had-little-in-common-with-republican-jesus/
Moldy, I probably agree with this…. Would need more information. I don’t condone organized religion. Back in the 80s when the Christian Right was on their soap box….. I totally disagreed . I know that the early Catholic Church removed all the Truly spiritual books from the Bible. Most churches are about money, not GOD! So I am not a fan.
debeda wrote:
Moldy, get real. That was then, this is now. Think about when Hawaii was made a state, their very different culture was celebrated and embraced. Think about "islamophobia". If we went on actions by Islam hundreds of years ago we would attack those people on sight and NEVER let them into our countries, or near our families. Comparing what happened hundreds of years ago to today is ingenuous in the extreme.
That being said, we westerners, when settling the US, would've been smart to incorporate with the indigenous peoples rather than "conquering" them. They knew how to live in harmony with nature.
Moldy, get real. That was then, this is now. Think... (
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1959 for Hawaii. They had already been homogenized. The plantation owners imported Chinese and Japanese to grow and harvest the crops. Similar to the Mexicans on the mainland. The big difference is the Mexicans could be sent home easily.
moldyoldy wrote:
1959 for Hawaii. They had already been homogenized. The plantation owners imported Chinese and Japanese to grow and harvest the crops. Similar to the Mexicans on the mainland. The big difference is the Mexicans could be sent home easily.
Sigh. Clearly you don't get my point. Or read the entire thing I wrote...
debeda wrote:
Sigh. Clearly you don't get my point. Or read the entire thing I wrote...
The culture was so diluted by the time of statehood, that it was barely recognizable.
moldyoldy wrote:
Deflect much?
Show me Moldy. You won't because you can't.
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