I googled 'is China considering Bagram base': Just google that and see all the different news agencies that have comments or stories. Without telling me what an orange idiot Trump was...

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

Just google that and see all the different news agencies that have comments or stories. Without telling me what an orange idiot Trump was or what a senile fool Biden is try telling me how this leaving was a good or bad idea the way it was done.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

FallenOak wrote:

Just google that and see all the different news agencies that have comments or stories. Without telling me what an orange idiot Trump was or what a senile fool Biden is try telling me how this leaving was a good or bad idea the way it was done.

My son and many others spent years in the Middle East, keeping the war with terrorist away from America's shores. I hate Biden and his cabinate, I don't hate easily, but I've seen up close what sacrifices were made F$%K Biden. He's an idiot

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

microphor wrote:

My son and many others spent years in the Middle East, keeping the war with terrorist away from America's shores. I hate Biden and his cabinate, I don't hate easily, but I've seen up close what sacrifices were made F$%K Biden. He's an idiot

Thanks for the comment. My grandson grew up in Fallbrook so naturally the only service was USMC. I too am sad about the Marines and corpsman from Pendleton, also the Army man. Just also saw that Taliban took Panjshir, last holdout Afghan province with help from Pakistan.

teabag09

FallenOak wrote:

Just google that and see all the different news agencies that have comments or stories. Without telling me what an orange idiot Trump was or what a senile fool Biden is try telling me how this leaving was a good or bad idea the way it was done.

Why wouldn't they? The Russians built it, we expanded it and now the Chinese are going to be lost in the black hole too. Mike

Hug

microphor wrote:

My son and many others spent years in the Middle East, keeping the war with terrorist away from America's shores. I hate Biden and his cabinate, I don't hate easily, but I've seen up close what sacrifices were made F$%K Biden. He's an idiot

Benedict Biden is the greatest traitor in the history of the world!

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

teabag09 wrote:

Why wouldn't they? The Russians built it, we expanded it and now the Chinese are going to be lost in the black hole too. Mike

microphor Loc: Home is TN

FallenOak wrote:

Thanks for the comment. My grandson grew up in Fallbrook so naturally the only service was USMC. I too am sad about the Marines and corpsman from Pendleton, also the Army man. Just also saw that Taliban took Panjshir, last holdout Afghan province with help from Pakistan.

It breaks my heart.

debeda

microphor wrote:

My son and many others spent years in the Middle East, keeping the war with terrorist away from America's shores. I hate Biden and his cabinate, I don't hate easily, but I've seen up close what sacrifices were made F$%K Biden. He's an idiot

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

debeda

FallenOak wrote:

Just google that and see all the different news agencies that have comments or stories. Without telling me what an orange idiot Trump was or what a senile fool Biden is try telling me how this leaving was a good or bad idea the way it was done.

It seems common sense that if you have a fortified air base with multiple runways you are in full control of, that is where you would base your retreat/evacuation.

Radiance3

FallenOak wrote:

Just google that and see all the different news agencies that have comments or stories. Without telling me what an orange idiot Trump was or what a senile fool Biden is try telling me how this leaving was a good or bad idea the way it was done.

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There is a reality that China decides to have control of the Afghan territory. China has been doing it worldwide. Fact is as soon as Biden exited, China was already in the Afghan territory negotiating with the Taliban.

China focus on 3rd world countries with leaders who are corrupt, as China makes concessions to developing their land via all kinds of infrastructure. But they keep the technology without sharing to the country they develop. Most of those victimized have fallen victims to the hands of Chinese control. There are now 8 countries that fall into Chinese debt trap.
https://qz.com/1223768/china-debt-trap-these-eight-countries-are-in-danger-of-debt-overloads-from-chinas-belt-and-road-plans/

What happens after the country has been developed, and they could not pay China, China ends up confiscating the land in payment of the debts.

The Taliban is now very comfortable with China who rushed into the Afghan territory after Biden had exited without strategic planning. China now is luring the Taliban all goodies and assistance to develop their land. China has abundant fund resources to do this being the richest country in the world at present.

This China encroachment could not happen if president Trump is in control.

While Biden is so dumb even to control the virus that China spread to the US, and the world.

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

teabag09 wrote:

Why wouldn't they? The Russians built it, we expanded it and now the Chinese are going to be lost in the black hole too. Mike

Caravans, a novel by James A. Michener was about Afghanistan and was a rather depressing novel. Seems no nation pays attention to what he wrote.

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

Radiance3 wrote:

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Perhaps we are reaping the rewards of British colonization of China. We made rather feeble attempts ourselves or helped Britain in the past.

Radiance3

FallenOak wrote:

Perhaps we are reaping the rewards of British colonization of China. We made rather feeble attempts ourselves or helped Britain in the past.

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NO! I don't justify Chinese encroachment to various 3rd world countries. The purpose is world dominance. China took the Spratly islands that don't belong to them. Perhaps China paid a corrupt leaders of the country who was part owner of the Spratly. There are 8 countries that are already victims of China. China has great ambition to dominate the Pacific, and finally the world.

The British though they expanded territories in the past had developed those countries without demanding payment. The fact of the matter was Britain had improved those countries by educating their masses. These people eventually learned that advanced their way of life. Example of that is India. India inherited great educational system from Britain. Another example is Hongkong. Hongkong was leased 100 years from China. Hongkong had advanced its economy and civilization thru the British. That is why Hongkong people prefer to be with the Western civilization than China. They fought for that, but CCP prevailed.

The Spanish conquests of other countries are no good either. They enslaved the people of those countries they conquered. The great thing that Spain contributed was the Christian faith. All Spanish conquests were not as successful as the British conquests.

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

Radiance3 wrote:

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I seem to recall reading that England also introduced opium dens to the Chinese. Hongkong. Evening comes at the end of each day. Is it possible that China has watched the west and learned how to play the game?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

FallenOak wrote:

I seem to recall reading that England also introduced opium dens to the Chinese. Hongkong. Evening comes at the end of each day. Is it possible that China has watched the west and learned how to play the game?

Not just Hong Kong...All of Canton...

And then fought wars to keep the trade going...