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Now we know why conservatives love larry elder. He thinks slave owners deserve reparations
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Sep 8, 2021 20:23:31   #
older and wiser
 
woodguru wrote:
You like him because he is the face of the GOP through and through...now he's going full moron with a narrative that the only way this recall can't work is if it's stolen...

..spoiler alert, there are twice as many registered democrats as republicans, and nothing gets them out to vote like the prospect of a DeSantis or Abbot style anti mask nut job as governor of California.


That means there are twice as many idiots on California!

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Sep 8, 2021 20:24:27   #
older and wiser
 
woodguru wrote:
You'll need millions, the guy is a sleazebag


You have to mean Obiden!

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Sep 8, 2021 20:24:58   #
older and wiser
 
captainwalt wrote:
Bingo! He connects the dots so anyone can understand the relationship between different social issues. Example - teachers unions are adamantly opposed to alternatives to public schools and don’t want the $ to follow the child. Larry shows how failing schools lead to lots of problems Cali is having: homelessness, rise in crime rates, exploding prison populations, drug addictions and mental health crises. Even the exodus of successful ppl from Cali because of high cost of living can be traced ultimately back to failing schools.
Bingo! He connects the dots so anyone can understa... (show quote)


So true!

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Sep 8, 2021 20:26:14   #
sicruz2020nov
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
War reparations were made after the Civil War. Slaves were given farm land and a mule (equivalent to a tractor) and the West was opened up to all under the Homestead Act.

We were not alive then. Neither were our parents nor grandparents alive. This debate is absurd.

Our biggest enemy right now is the counterfeiting Federal Reserve Bank that keeps devaluing the dollar to a dime and drops interests rates to "0" to destroy small banks and small business loans and mortgages.
War reparations were made after the Civil War. Sla... (show quote)


Note to this: The "Forty acres & a mule" was a military order, immediately rescinded by the Secretary of War- nobody received nothing. The last devaluation of a "dollar to a dime" took approximately 75 years, & involved no counterfeiting.

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Sep 8, 2021 21:37:48   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Rinaldi wrote:
While elder denies that he is the black face of white supremacy, his comments regarding reparations for slave owners who had their 'property stolen' fit nicely into the current conservative narrative of so many conservatives.

Damn good thing he is going to lose because of stupid comments like this.

And the only damage he can do is to his radio audience and his frequent appearance on the fools at fox.



https://www.yahoo.com/now/larry-elder-argues-slave-owners-000601872.html
While elder denies that he is the black face of wh... (show quote)

He does have a point. Although I still believe if you or anyone you know was a slave before the civil war and can prove it then you should be compensated . However if you were not a slave in this country before the civil war. STFU.

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Sep 8, 2021 21:41:31   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Rinaldi wrote:
While elder denies that he is the black face of white supremacy, his comments regarding reparations for slave owners who had their 'property stolen' fit nicely into the current conservative narrative of so many conservatives.

Damn good thing he is going to lose because of stupid comments like this.

And the only damage he can do is to his radio audience and his frequent appearance on the fools at fox.



https://www.yahoo.com/now/larry-elder-argues-slave-owners-000601872.html
While elder denies that he is the black face of wh... (show quote)


Why don't you be a good little troll and trot on out and FIND a slave owner to whom you can give reparations. Rots of Ruck with that one.

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Sep 8, 2021 22:39:24   #
sicruz2020nov
 
I'm pretty sure the "compensation for slave owners" was meant to be ironic- although it failed, it was a good try. The point of no slaves or people close enough to be receiving reparations is true, if hard-hearted. Once the whole forty acres & a mule ship sailed, the chances of reparations finding an appropriate home were very slim. Concentration camp slim. Please forgive the mixing of so many metaphors. Hard to resist.

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Sep 9, 2021 04:43:54   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
sicruz2020nov wrote:
Note to this: The "Forty acres & a mule" was a military order, immediately rescinded by the Secretary of War- nobody received nothing. The last devaluation of a "dollar to a dime" took approximately 75 years, & involved no counterfeiting.


That "military order" was an insignificant event. You do know that half the truth is a lie?

And, printing paper fiat out of thin air way beyond the value of our GDP is counterfeiting. Since 1913, the purchasing power of the dollar is now 3 Cents and going down. The value of the dollar should be going up because of mass production. That's one hell of a rip-off.

Reparations for slavery in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_for_slavery_in_the_United_States
"The first recorded case of reparations for slavery in the United States was to former slave Belinda Royall in 1783, in the form of a pension, and since then reparations continue to be proposed and/or given in a variety of forms.[3] The 1865 Special Field Orders No. 15 ("Forty acres and a mule") is the most well known attempt to help newly freed slaves integrate into society and accumulate wealth.[4] However, President Andrew Johnson reversed this order, giving the land back to its former Confederate owners."

This is half the story. Many plantation owners on their own volition divvyed up their land amongst the freed slaves. Look at the statistics below. It was Franklin Delano Roosevelt that took away those black farmers' land:

How many acres did black farmers own in 1920?
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Black%20ownership%20of%20farmland&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=black%20ownership%20of%20farmland&sc=1-27&sk=&cvid=AF2A3937C93B43B6A663A6368EE79582
"In 1920, nearly a million Black farmers worked on 41.4 million acres of land, making up a seventh of farm owners. Today, only about 49,000 of them remain, making up just 1.4 percent of the nation’s farm owners, and tending a scant 4.7 million acres —a nearly 90 percent loss."

How did this happen after 1920? The Great Depression's New Deal and National Industrial Recovery Act virtually shut down Black farm production (using supply and demand) to raise food prices and wages. Nor did the USDA offer loans to Black farmers. FDR favored the Southern Dixiecrats and the KKK:

What is not reported here is that Lincoln's Homestead Act opened up the West to all who could work the land. Some of those Black family farms are still in operation today. Mention of FDR's bigotry against Black farmers is made in Justice Clarence Thomas autobiography "My Grandfather's Son." FDR's National Industrial Recovery Act that mandated farmers stop growing crops was pitted deliberately against Black farmers in the south. Do not assume that Blacks favored Democrats and the KKK:

Minorities and the New Deal
African Americans and New Deal Programs
https
://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-ushistory/chapter/minorities-and-the-new-deal/
"African Americans and New Deal Programs
Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s legacy in respect to black Americans remains ambiguous at best. As the 1932 presidential candidate, he embraced the segregationist stand of the Democratic Party. Already as president, Roosevelt’s many critical decisions were driven by his need to please white Southerners, who held substantial power in Congress. He repeatedly refused to support anti-lynching legislation and ignored the black civil rights struggle. Historians note that the actions that Roosevelt took in support of black communities were often influenced by Eleanor Roosevelt, who continued to push her husband to pay more attention to black leaders and needs of African Americans.

"While the New Deal was formally designed to benefit African Americans, some of its flagship programs, particularly those proposed during the First New Deal, either excluded African Americans or even hurt them. For example, the 1933 Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA) drove many black farmers from the land. As subsidies were paid to (usually white) landlords for not growing certain crops on a part of their land, black (and white) sharecroppers and other tenants were the first victims of the new policy. The evicted farmers were often forced to migrate to northern cities as the southern countryside had no alternative to offer. The 1933 National Recovery Administration, the main First New Deal agency responsible for industrial recovery, had hardly anything to offer to African Americans as the National Industrial Recovery Act’s (NIRA) provisions covered the industries from which black workers were usually excluded. Neither farm nor domestic labor, two sectors where African Americans constituted substantial labor force, were covered under NIRA. Similarly, the original version (later amended) of the 1935 Social Security Act did not provide old-age pensions for farm and domestic workers, which automatically excluded a substantial number of senior African Americans. In the South, that number was nearly 40%..."

A million Black family farmers went out of business, 90% of them, under Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal.

That's the DEMOCRATS' SOCIALIST New Deal, not the Republican Abe Lincoln's Emancipation Act and Homestead Act.

Racism is the foundation of socialism and communism. Wake up!
Tell it like it is!

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Sep 9, 2021 05:07:26   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Why don't you be a good little troll and trot on out and FIND a slave owner to whom you can give reparations. Rots of Ruck with that one.


Elder is pointing out the absurdity of it all, if you want slave reparations, then offer slave owner reparations too. None of these civil War dudes are alive today. More Blacks have emigrated into the United States for freedom since the Civil War, newcomers far outnumbering the descendants of slaves. How can anybody differentiate? Thomas Sowell writes of this in his book "Black Rednecks and White Liberals"
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks-Liberals-Thomas-Sowell/dp/1594031436/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2EN4DBCN1U8JV&dchild=1&keywords=black+rednecks+and+white+liberals&qid=1631178209&s=books&sr=1-1

Karl Marx's currency manipulation under his government central bank, the Federal Reserve, and Marx's Progressive Tax have done more to hurt the working poor than any slave master.

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