WEBCO

Mask wearing does 3 things
1) makes the stupid people who wear them feel superior
2)is actually harmful to the people who wear them
3)controls people to continually fear the virus, and submit to stupid mandates

Wonttakeitanymore

And u guys have no brains! Zombies! Those masks do nothing but make people breath their own carbon dioxide! U guys took the jab how’s that working out for ya! Still have the rest of the Greek alphabet to get thru on viruses! Maybe you should glue that crap to ur face!

Wonttakeitanymore

That’s funny!

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Peg, please. Set aside your leftist ideology and indoctrination for a moment, and LISTEN to me!
Yes, a mask will stop large and even most small drops of water, such as those projected by a sneeze or cough. But the virus is also in extremely fine aerosols that are far tinier than droplets. These are easily forced through the fabric of any mask you can put on by the pressure exerted by inhaling and exhaling. If air can enter and exit through the mask, then SO CAN the aerosols and virus in that air. This is basic physics. I am not saying that masks are entirely useless, but they do not do what you guys say they will, and they most certainly do NOT provide any real security, for either the wearer or people around them WHY do you persist in insisting that they do???????

nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert

Masks work about as good as the vaccine. A poor substitute for nature.

3507

I agree with most of that comment.

Disclaimer: I don't have any formal education about this matter; I'm just an ordinary person who hears, reads, and thinks.

(I do have some background in mathematics though, which may be helpful in interpreting the news.)

The Covid virus travels on exhaled air. Exhaled air is slowed down or partially redirected by any cheap mask, if the mask is covering the part of you (nose or mouth) where the exhalation is coming from.

And, of course, generally, the transmission is completed by the other person inhaling some of what the other person exhaled.

(There's been some thought about it getting into the receiving person's eyes. I read in one place that people who wear eyeglasses were found to catch Covid less often than people who don't wear eyeglasses. Maybe the eyeglasses are a barrier that effectively reduces the amount of infected aerosol that gets into the mucous membranes of the eyes. _Not_ that they totally stop all the aerosol, just that they may _reduce_ the amount that gets into the eyes. I have occasionally worn a face shield for this purpose, but not recently. Recently I rely mainly on just not being around people much and being in airy places or outdoors. And I keep my fingers crossed, figuratively, because occasionally I'm in places where I could catch Covid, like in a bookstore last week that didn't have really great air circulation. I wore a mask in there, but that might not help me much.). (I'm fully vaccinated, which probably helps a great lot.)

Masks help protect the wearer a little bit, but they help protect the surrounding people more. Also: People can have the virus and be contagious and not know it.

Cheap masks _reduce_ the amount of virus that will travel from the mask wearer to another person. They do this by slowing, or partially redirecting, the medium that the virus is traveling on.

Viral load (see next paragraph below) builds up according to time and other factors such as the air circulation. Outdoor air in a breeze is usually much, much safer (regarding Covid transmission) than stagnant air in a room crowded with people.

People get infected according to "viral load". If a very small number of the virus particles get into a person, the person's body's defenses will probably be able to fight it off. (That seems to be true about some viruses, and I think it's true about the Covid virus.) But if a very large number of the virus particles get into a person, then the person is much more likely to get sick or to be a carrier passing the virus on to yet other people.

(Exactly how contagious the Delta variant is is of interest, to me. We know it's "more" contagious than the earlier variants, but some of the statements about how much more contagious it is appear to be sloppy statements so that we don't know how much more contagious it is. The experts probably know, but the correct information hasn't been clearly communicated to the general public yet. And possibly it never will be, since so many people are so sloppy about how they make numerical statements.)

The knowledge about how the virus is transmitted changes as more is learned about it. We (ordinary people such as myself, and experts we listen to) used to think that Covid was spread both by air and by touching contaminated surfaces. But several months ago, as more was learned, we stopped thinking it was passed by touch. Current thought is that it's hardly ever passed by touch. It is passed as "an aerosol" (which is in exhaled air from a contagious person). _Some_ viruses are highly transmissible by touch, but the Covid virus doesn't have that characteristic. However, I notice that experts still sometimes tell us to wash our hands frequently, which is usually a good idea anyway, as is not touching your face much, which is also just generally good advice for health in general. I suppose maybe Covid's a little bit transmissible by touch, like if you touch your nose with it; but we're _sure_ it's dangerously transmissible by exhaled "aerosol" from infected unmasked people who are gathered with uninfected people for more than several minutes in a small closed room with poor ventilation when the uninfected people in the room haven't been vaccinated against Covid. That's no _guarantee_ that those particular individuals will get infected or seriously ill or die, but it certainly increases the chances of it.

Disclaimer: I don't have any formal education about this matter; I'm just an ordinary person who hears, reads, and thinks.

If the infected people were not exhaling then it probably wouldn't transmit much, but studies have shown that people who don't exhale are dead. So that's not usually very helpful. This last paragraph is a joke but the rest is intended to be serious. If anybody's read this far, congratulations, thanks, and I hope the joke paid you a bit for your attention.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Good article 3507. Pretty much the same as a few others have been saying. The masks help. A little. By reducing large drops and droplets. But any mask that passes air through pressure gradients (inhale or exhale) will carry free floating virus and aerosol infected mist with it....directly through any mask material short of air tight. Just like smoke or odors, except much easier. This renders masks as a very poor barrier, even at the best of times.
People should use them if it makes them feel better, but do not trust them to do much to protect you. They won't.

3507

So, maybe we are approximately in agreement on this.

I give the masks a little more credit, for slowing and redirecting aerosols (in addition to stopping large droplets). But how would I know. You mention pressure gradients. Of course if there's a lot of pressure then a lot of aerosol will go right through.

Conventional experts (e.g., Fauci) seem to think masks help significantly (though, in my opinion, they have grievously failed to make it very clear that the significance is mainly to reduce transmissions from mask-wearers to others, and to explain how that relates to slowing the spread of the virus through a population). They keep telling us to wear them. To a large degree, I believe and obey the conventional experts, at least in pandemic matters (relevant to their many years of study and ongoing learning).

Meanwhile, I want to repeat an old, and perhaps tragic, joke about the pandemic. Way back about March or April of 2020, someone wrote: "Now is your chance to save the world by sitting on the couch all day and watching TV. Don't screw it up." That relates to the advice about not going out in public.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Then we agree....mostly. You lean a little more to trusting, and I lean a little more to not.
By the way, i have not forgotten my commitment to you about a description on leftists. i have been working on it here and there, getting my thoughts into words, but it's been a chaotic week...not bad....just wildly busy. I should be ready to post it soon. I will probably do so in small batches.
Have a blessed weekend!

3507

Thanks.

I remember about the leftists.

I wouldn't have called it a commitment. But I think what you say about them will be interesting. As I am either a leftist or somewhat similar to one, it may be hard for me to read, which is why I suggested something not too long.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

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