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Jul 11, 2021 22:30:57   #
Army
 
Some will find interesting

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2021/04/03/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia

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Jul 11, 2021 23:49:06   #
debeda
 


Good grief, I never knew anything about this. I'll have to research it. Thanks for the info!

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Jul 12, 2021 01:06:22   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Army, you may not be aware that Veterans Today is well known to be anti-Israel, anti-Jewish and anti-Semitic. They are also strongly pro-Iranian.

Below are many online websites that describe them as anti-Israel propagandists.


Veterans Today is a website that runs an editorial line that is strongly against Israel and Saudi Arabia but has few negative words to say about Pakistan, Iran, and Russia. As of 2014, Veterans Today described itself as "The True Voice of the World's Clandestine Community."

VT claims to be an "independent and unaligned" voice. It shares many contributors and news analysts with Iran's Press TV. VT's articles are also reposted widely on the Internet, primarily on pro-Palestine and right-wing extremist websites on topics such as 9/11 conspiracy theories, zionism and the "Jewish question"
The Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center have criticized it for promoting anti-semitic and extremist viewpoints and conspiracy theories.

Veterans Today carries contents directly from the Iranian press outlets such as Press TV and Mehr News, some of which are affiliated with Iranian intelligence agencies. Contributor Mark D. Siljander pled guilty to obstruction of justice and acting as an unregistered foreign agent related to his work for an Islamic charity with ties to international terrorism.

The site was established in 2004. In late 2005, one contributor spoke of "those of us who believe that the U.S. is waging an illegal, immoral, devastating war on the Iraqi people". By December 2008, it had experienced a significant shift in its editorial focus with the addition of a "911 and terror war" section, and an article with the title "Israel's 'Crime Against Humanity' Israel’s siege of Gaza".

By 2012, it was publishing articles directly from Iran's Press TV. It was also serving as an American source or mouthpiece for conspiracy theories blaming the 2012 Burgas bus bombing in Bulgaria and the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting attacks on Israel by Gordon Duff and Jim Fetzer who were quoted by Press TV.

Contributor Mark D. Siljander is a former Republican U.S. Representative and deputy United Nations ambassador from the state of Michigan. He was convicted of obstruction of justice and acting as an unregistered foreign agent related to his work for an Islamic charity with ties to international terrorism. Siljander pleaded guilty to the charges in Federal court on July 7, 2010.

Veterans Today describes Holocaust Revisionist and columnist Ingrid R. Zundel as "proudly married to one of the world's most politically correct human rights activists, Ernst Zundel, kidnapped by America's Zionist-beholden government goons on American soil in 2003 for having spoken Truth to Power about the so-called 'Holocaust'."

She praised Nazi Germany's soldiers as "heroic men who stormed to the gates of Stalingrad to stop what was called Communism" and condemned postwar German governments who have "criminalized – these soldiers’ blood sacrifice, their loss of eyes, limbs, health and honor and even life..."

She wrote that Japan "had peacefully occupied Indochina, with the permission of Vichy France", but eventually was "forced into attacking America in order to maintain her prosperity and secure her existence as a sovereign state." She posted a piece by Stephen Goodson who admired how Hitler had defeated the "banksters".

Editorial board member Ismail Salami also is Iranian.


Veterans Today - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Today

James Kirchick, writing in Time magazine, calls Veterans Today a "virulently anti-Semitic website". The Times of Israel describes it as "a clearinghouse of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories".


Buyer Beware: Veterans Today and its Anti-Israel Agenda ...

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2011/01/06/buyer-beware-veterans-today-and-its-anti-israel-agenda

Veterans Today (VT) is a website that bills itself as a "military veterans and foreign affairs journal." And, indeed, many of its contributors are military veterans or veterans' advocates from across the political spectrum. ...
anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist" Gordon Duff. Marilyn Mayo, a director at the ADL Center on Extremism, told Hatewatch ...


Veterans Today Editor Blames Newtown Tragedy on Israel ...
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2013/01/10/veterans-today-editor-blames-newtown-tragedy-israel

Veterans Today, a website that purports to be a "military veterans and foreign affairs journal" but is really a locus of the far right, is now squarely in neo-Nazi territory. Veterans Today (VT) has engaged in all kinds of conspiracy theorizing, most of it focusing on the alleged evils of Israel, for years.

Veterans Today The misleadingly named Veterans Today is an anti-Semitic website that has published pieces claiming the Holocaust is a "lie," "racket," and a "Jew-on-Jew False Flag Operation."...


Veterans Today: FAKE NEWS False Flag Anti-Semitic Attacks ...
https://phibetaiota.net/2019/05/veterans-today-fake-news-false-flag-anti-semitic-attacks-by-jews-against-themselves-because-they-are-certain-you-are-stupid/

Virtually every "anti-Semitic" event appears to be done by the Zionists themselves, just as most "terrorist" arrests in the USA are contrived by the FBI as budget building measures. The media is complicit, and of course owned by the Rothschilds and the Zionist machine that profits from lies, drugs, guns, gold, and selling small children."





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Jul 12, 2021 10:47:58   #
Army
 
Zemirah wrote:
Army, you may not be aware that Veterans Today is well known to be anti-Israel, anti-Jewish and anti-Semitic. They are also strongly pro-Iranian.

Below are many online websites that describe them as anti-Israel propagandists.


Veterans Today is a website that runs an editorial line that is strongly against Israel and Saudi Arabia but has few negative words to say about Pakistan, Iran, and Russia. As of 2014, Veterans Today described itself as "The True Voice of the World's Clandestine Community."

VT claims to be an "independent and unaligned" voice. It shares many contributors and news analysts with Iran's Press TV. VT's articles are also reposted widely on the Internet, primarily on pro-Palestine and right-wing extremist websites on topics such as 9/11 conspiracy theories, zionism and the "Jewish question"
The Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center have criticized it for promoting anti-semitic and extremist viewpoints and conspiracy theories.

Veterans Today carries contents directly from the Iranian press outlets such as Press TV and Mehr News, some of which are affiliated with Iranian intelligence agencies. Contributor Mark D. Siljander pled guilty to obstruction of justice and acting as an unregistered foreign agent related to his work for an Islamic charity with ties to international terrorism.

The site was established in 2004. In late 2005, one contributor spoke of "those of us who believe that the U.S. is waging an illegal, immoral, devastating war on the Iraqi people". By December 2008, it had experienced a significant shift in its editorial focus with the addition of a "911 and terror war" section, and an article with the title "Israel's 'Crime Against Humanity' Israel’s siege of Gaza".

By 2012, it was publishing articles directly from Iran's Press TV. It was also serving as an American source or mouthpiece for conspiracy theories blaming the 2012 Burgas bus bombing in Bulgaria and the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting attacks on Israel by Gordon Duff and Jim Fetzer who were quoted by Press TV.

Contributor Mark D. Siljander is a former Republican U.S. Representative and deputy United Nations ambassador from the state of Michigan. He was convicted of obstruction of justice and acting as an unregistered foreign agent related to his work for an Islamic charity with ties to international terrorism. Siljander pleaded guilty to the charges in Federal court on July 7, 2010.

Veterans Today describes Holocaust Revisionist and columnist Ingrid R. Zundel as "proudly married to one of the world's most politically correct human rights activists, Ernst Zundel, kidnapped by America's Zionist-beholden government goons on American soil in 2003 for having spoken Truth to Power about the so-called 'Holocaust'."

She praised Nazi Germany's soldiers as "heroic men who stormed to the gates of Stalingrad to stop what was called Communism" and condemned postwar German governments who have "criminalized – these soldiers’ blood sacrifice, their loss of eyes, limbs, health and honor and even life..."

She wrote that Japan "had peacefully occupied Indochina, with the permission of Vichy France", but eventually was "forced into attacking America in order to maintain her prosperity and secure her existence as a sovereign state." She posted a piece by Stephen Goodson who admired how Hitler had defeated the "banksters".

Editorial board member Ismail Salami also is Iranian.


Veterans Today - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Today

James Kirchick, writing in Time magazine, calls Veterans Today a "virulently anti-Semitic website". The Times of Israel describes it as "a clearinghouse of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories".


Buyer Beware: Veterans Today and its Anti-Israel Agenda ...

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2011/01/06/buyer-beware-veterans-today-and-its-anti-israel-agenda

Veterans Today (VT) is a website that bills itself as a "military veterans and foreign affairs journal." And, indeed, many of its contributors are military veterans or veterans' advocates from across the political spectrum. ...
anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist" Gordon Duff. Marilyn Mayo, a director at the ADL Center on Extremism, told Hatewatch ...


Veterans Today Editor Blames Newtown Tragedy on Israel ...
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2013/01/10/veterans-today-editor-blames-newtown-tragedy-israel

Veterans Today, a website that purports to be a "military veterans and foreign affairs journal" but is really a locus of the far right, is now squarely in neo-Nazi territory. Veterans Today (VT) has engaged in all kinds of conspiracy theorizing, most of it focusing on the alleged evils of Israel, for years.

Veterans Today The misleadingly named Veterans Today is an anti-Semitic website that has published pieces claiming the Holocaust is a "lie," "racket," and a "Jew-on-Jew False Flag Operation."...


Veterans Today: FAKE NEWS False Flag Anti-Semitic Attacks ...
https://phibetaiota.net/2019/05/veterans-today-fake-news-false-flag-anti-semitic-attacks-by-jews-against-themselves-because-they-are-certain-you-are-stupid/

Virtually every "anti-Semitic" event appears to be done by the Zionists themselves, just as most "terrorist" arrests in the USA are contrived by the FBI as budget building measures. The media is complicit, and of course owned by the Rothschilds and the Zionist machine that profits from lies, drugs, guns, gold, and selling small children."
Army, you may not be aware that Veterans Today is ... (show quote)


Iam not arguing that I understand or veterans stuff that's not the point intented nor do I disagree with you I just feel there's some truth an history of the Khazarian mafia & devil started before & after this country existence. It's an article was interesting . I never picked it because the veterans name on it an don't surprise all true or not .
I think every country has a shadow government deep state controlling it an what we are told . I don't believe Wikipedia anymore as they are changing definitions political now. Haven't had time on lot other research this yet.

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Jul 12, 2021 11:52:41   #
Army
 
debeda wrote:
Good grief, I never knew anything about this. I'll have to research it. Thanks for the info!


Let me know I don't know what's all true but do think there is Khazarian mafia .....devil's an has operated even before this country and that all country's have a Shadow government , deep state controlling we are seeing it manifest on every level now an for years the problems all our life's endless wars , taxes , freedoms silenced , crimes exceeding every level .

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Jul 12, 2021 11:59:53   #
Army
 


IAM not saying true or not only that all governments have a Shadow government deep State an believe there can be proof of Khazarian mafia Devil's even before this country exist. So like hear others input regardless . An never picked this article because was veterans or not ether .

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Jul 14, 2021 04:06:25   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Hi Army,

I didn't make myself as clear as I should have. I respect and honor all of our nation's military veterans.

I also agree with you that there is much spiritual darkness in the governments on earth because as Jesus said, "Satan is the god of this age," meaning Satan, through his fallen angels and the people they are able to influence usually called the Illuminati) , are always behind the scenes, attempting to control our man made systems of Government, Education and Religion.

My point was that "Veterans Today" website isn't about veterans. The name is a cover to make them appear legitimate. Everything they publish is anti-Jewish and anti-Israel, including their stories about modern Jews actually being Khazarian descendants (who were Turkic people and not Jewish at all).

The lie that is the basis of the Khazarian paperback novels that today’s Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Khazars who converted in the Middle Ages is not true, but is a myth that is propaganda against the modern Jews, and that concerns me; - best selling authors have written many fictional novels centered around that claim of Khazarian Jews for several decades.

The books are very popular in the Middle East in some lands that are principally Muslims, because they use them to claim the Jewish people in Israel aren't really Jews, but Khazars, and therefore have no right to the land of Israel.

These Khazarian novels are as fictitious as the horrible anti-Jewish book: "The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion," which was a fabricated anti-semitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination that was used against the Jews by Hitler before WWII.

That hoax was ultimately shown to have been plagiarized from several earlier sources, and originally written as a satire that was never meant to be taken seriously.

According to research by a Hebrew University historian, the Khazar thesis gained global prominence when Shlomo Sand of Tel Aviv University published “The Invention of the Jewish People” in 2008. In that book, which became a best seller and was translated into several languages, Sand argued that the “Jewish people” are an invention, forged out of myths and fictitious “history” to justify Jewish ownership of the Land of Israel.

Israeli historian, Prof. Shaul Stampfer, concluded that there is no evidence to support this assertion. He has researched the foundations of Sand’s argument: his claim that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from the people of the Khazar kingdom, who in the eighth century converted en masse on the instruction of their king. In an article published in the journal “Jewish Social Studies,”

“Such a conversion, even though it’s a wonderful story, never happened,” Stampfer said.

Stampfer, an expert in Jewish history, analyzed material from various fields, but found no reliable source for the claim that the Khazars – a multi-ethnic kingdom that included Iranians, Turks, Slavs and Circassians – converted to Judaism. “There never was a conversion by the Khazar king or the Khazar elite,” he said. “The conversion of the Khazars is a myth with no factual basis.”

As a historian, he said he was surprised to discover how hard it is “to prove that something didn’t happen. Until now, most of my research has been aimed at discovering or clarifying what did happen in the past … It’s a much more difficult challenge to prove that something didn’t happen than to prove it did.”

That’s because the proof is based primarily on the absence of evidence rather than its presence – like the fact that an event as unprecedented as an entire kingdom’s conversion to Judaism merited no mention in any contemporaneous sources.

“The silence of so many sources about the Khazars’ Judaism is very suspicious,” Stampfer said. “The Byzantines, the geonim [Jewish religious leaders of the sixth to eleventh centuries], the sages of Egypt – none of them have a word about any Jewish Khazars.”

The research ended up taking him four years. “I thought I’d finish in two months, but I discovered that there was a huge amount of work. I had to check sources that aren’t in my field, and I consulted and got help from many people.”

Stampfer said his research had no political motives, though he recognizes that the topic is politically fraught.

“It’s a really interesting historical question, but it has political implications,” he said. “As a historian, I’m naturally worried by the misuse of history. I think history should be removed from political discussions, but anyone who nevertheless wants to use history must at least present the correct facts. In this case, the facts are that the Khazars didn’t convert, the Jews aren’t descendants of the Khazars and the contemporary political problems between Israelis and Palestinians must be dealt with on the basis of current reality, not on the basis of a fictitious past."

“Those who believed the Khazarian-Jews books – and there are many – need to investigate for themselves; they will find that even DNA tests have been done on the Ashkenazi Jews of Israel, proving they have no Turkic (Khazarian) ancestors. They are the ancestors of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.



Army wrote:
Iam not arguing that I understand or veterans stuff that's not the point intented nor do I disagree with you I just feel there's some truth an history of the Khazarian mafia & devil started before & after this country existence. It's an article was interesting . I never picked it because the veterans name on it an don't surprise all true or not .
I think every country has a shadow government deep state controlling it an what we are told . I don't believe Wikipedia anymore as they are changing definitions political now. Haven't had time on lot other research this yet.
Iam not arguing that I understand or veterans stuf... (show quote)

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Jul 14, 2021 06:21:47   #
Army
 
debeda wrote:
Good grief, I never knew anything about this. I'll have to research it. Thanks for the info!


New to me to let me know what you find out true or not ok.

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Jul 14, 2021 22:51:18   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Correction: I meant "They (the Jewish people) are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, NOT the ancestors.


Zemirah wrote:
Hi Army,
......
They are the ancestors of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

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Jul 14, 2021 22:54:01   #
debeda
 
Army wrote:
New to me to let me know what you find out true or not ok.


Yes, I will if I find out anything🌞

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Jul 15, 2021 01:10:30   #
Army
 
debeda wrote:
Yes, I will if I find out anything🌞


Thanks

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Jul 15, 2021 17:07:28   #
Army
 
Zemirah wrote:
Correction: I meant "They (the Jewish people) are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, NOT the ancestors.


I think I know what your saying. Not all Jews are Hebrew type of thing. I think lot these are parading as are not what saying they are .

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Jul 15, 2021 20:55:44   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Throughout the centuries, the Jewish people have been the most persecuted people in history. Because of this, no one who is not a Jew would have claimed to be one.

Several times in recent years, I have researched the claims that people make, when they say the Jewish people of today are not really Jews, and are not really the progeny (descendants) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but are instead, descended from the Khazarian people of the 9th century, and I have found no evidence that it is true.

Because I am a Christian, and a student of the Bible, I know that God has returned Israel to the Jewish people, as He promised Abraham He would.

Four thousand years ago, God said to Abram, I am giving all this land, as far as you can see, to you and your descendants as a permanent possession. (Genesis 13:15)

And He promised it again:

"And I will give to you and to your offspring after you the land of your sojournings, where you now live, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God.”
(Genesis 17:8)

If phony Jews were actually controlling Israel, instead of the children of Abraham, it would make of God a liar.

God gave the land of Israel to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as a permanent possession and He knows where every Jewish person in the world resides, because He said He would not leave one behind.

God's return of Israel, their homeland, to the Jewish people after 1,900 years, during which time most of them have lived in other countries as sojourners, is a miracle that has never happened to any other people.

Because, God is doing this, fulfilling His promises to Abraham that He made 4,000 years ago, in this way, Christians can believe His promises of eternal salvation that are made to all believers in the Lord Jesus Christ.



Army wrote:
I think I know what your saying. Not all Jews are Hebrew type of thing. I think lot these are parading as are not what saying they are .

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Jul 16, 2021 07:36:06   #
Army
 
Zemirah wrote:
Throughout the centuries, the Jewish people have been the most persecuted people in history. Because of this, no one who is not a Jew would have claimed to be one.

Several times in recent years, I have researched the claims that people make, when they say the Jewish people of today are not really Jews, and are not really the progeny (descendants) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but are instead, descended from the Khazarian people of the 9th century, and I have found no evidence that it is true.

Because I am a Christian, and a student of the Bible, I know that God has returned Israel to the Jewish people, as He promised Abraham He would.

Four thousand years ago, God said to Abram, I am giving all this land, as far as you can see, to you and your descendants as a permanent possession. (Genesis 13:15)

And He promised it again:

"And I will give to you and to your offspring after you the land of your sojournings, where you now live, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God.”
(Genesis 17:8)

If phony Jews were actually controlling Israel, instead of the children of Abraham, it would make of God a liar.

God gave the land of Israel to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as a permanent possession and He knows where every Jewish person in the world resides, because He said He would not leave one behind.

God's return of Israel, their homeland, to the Jewish people after 1,900 years, during which time most of them have lived in other countries as sojourners, is a miracle that has never happened to any other people.

Because, God is doing this, fulfilling His promises to Abraham that He made 4,000 years ago, in this way, Christians can believe His promises of eternal salvation that are made to all believers in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Throughout the centuries, the Jewish people have b... (show quote)


Well I know the story an save the Jews God chosen people all that . IAM sure God Loves us all .Jesus came once they gave him over to be hung on the cross he died for us all even Gentiles . God gave that Land personally covenant with Abraham and descendants .
I get it but there are wolf's in sheep's clothing regardless of race , creed it's spiritual of the heart . What I've said is there are ones who lie an pose as who they are not . God's knows who his true people are an we should be more wise to .

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Jul 19, 2021 12:22:34   #
Army
 
Zemirah wrote:
Correction: I meant "They (the Jewish people) are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, NOT the ancestors.


Ok what do you think about the Noahide Law ?

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