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Question? Seems so many rightwingers are all upset about the US ending the Afghanistan war...
Jul 14, 2021 13:44:57   #
American Scene
 
But would the rightwingers be just as upset if trump had actually pulled the US forces out by May 31 as he was so proudly boasting about.

And would the Taliban be doing the same thing they are doing now, only they would have started the violence
earlier?

And who is the next empire to try and control the Taliban? Russia, nope they already got a good ass whipping. The US military/industrial complex with their 'contract mercenary' army? No way in hell.

That leaves China if they want to. Maybe they are too smart to play a fool's game.

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Jul 14, 2021 13:50:39   #
steve66613
 
Rinaldi wrote:
But would the rightwingers be just as upset if trump had actually pulled the US forces out by May 31 as he was so proudly boasting about.

And would the Taliban be doing the same thing they are doing now, only they would have started the violence
earlier?

And who is the next empire to try and control the Taliban? Russia, nope they already got a good ass whipping. The US military/industrial complex with their 'contract mercenary' army? No way in hell.

That leaves China if they want to. Maybe they are too smart to play a fool's game.
But would the rightwingers be just as upset if tru... (show quote)


IMO, China has been backing the Taliban for years.

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Jul 14, 2021 15:28:01   #
JW
 
Rinaldi wrote:
But would the rightwingers be just as upset if trump had actually pulled the US forces out by May 31 as he was so proudly boasting about.

And would the Taliban be doing the same thing they are doing now, only they would have started the violence
earlier?

And who is the next empire to try and control the Taliban? Russia, nope they already got a good ass whipping. The US military/industrial complex with their 'contract mercenary' army? No way in hell.

That leaves China if they want to. Maybe they are too smart to play a fool's game.
But would the rightwingers be just as upset if tru... (show quote)


Why would ending the war in Afghanistan be upsetting us. Obama was the one who said that was where the war should be fought. I'm amazed that anyone would choose to fight in Afghanistan. No foreigner has won a war there in at least 3000 years. We should never have been there.

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Jul 14, 2021 15:42:31   #
American Scene
 
JW wrote:
Why would ending the war in Afghanistan be upsetting us. Obama was the one who said that was where the war should be fought. I'm amazed that anyone would choose to fight in Afghanistan. No foreigner has won a war there in at least 3000 years. We should never have been there.




Perhaps you should told shrub bush that, since he started his 20 year war.

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Jul 14, 2021 15:45:46   #
JW
 
Rinaldi wrote:
Perhaps you should told shrub bush that, since he started his 20 year war.


I did!

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Jul 14, 2021 15:50:40   #
American Scene
 
JW wrote:
I did!





Too bad he didn't listen

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Jul 14, 2021 16:18:54   #
JW
 
Rinaldi wrote:
Too bad he didn't listen


At least he didn't focus our efforts there like Obama did.

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Jul 14, 2021 16:32:53   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Rinaldi wrote:
But would the rightwingers be just as upset if trump had actually pulled the US forces out by May 31 as he was so proudly boasting about.

And would the Taliban be doing the same thing they are doing now, only they would have started the violence
earlier?

And who is the next empire to try and control the Taliban? Russia, nope they already got a good ass whipping. The US military/industrial complex with their 'contract mercenary' army? No way in hell.

That leaves China if they want to. Maybe they are too smart to play a fool's game.
But would the rightwingers be just as upset if tru... (show quote)


Many of the GOP expressed their disfavor when Trump said he wanted to pull them out.

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Jul 14, 2021 21:55:58   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Rinaldi wrote:
But would the rightwingers be just as upset if trump had actually pulled the US forces out by May 31 as he was so proudly boasting about.

And would the Taliban be doing the same thing they are doing now, only they would have started the violence
earlier?

And who is the next empire to try and control the Taliban? Russia, nope they already got a good ass whipping. The US military/industrial complex with their 'contract mercenary' army? No way in hell.

That leaves China if they want to. Maybe they are too smart to play a fool's game.
But would the rightwingers be just as upset if tru... (show quote)


Have you had boots on the ground in Afghanistan? If not you have no idea what you're talking about. I saw soldiers die. After about four months in I came to an understanding that we were not there so much to help the Afghan people as to protect the contractors. I meet one, his only job was to install and repair security locks. He may go more than a month without having to do anything. Over a hundred thousand a year, he was on his sixth. So that's over six thousand dollars while soldiers were dying. So yes we should pull out. Alexander the Great, England and Russia could not conquer the country. Afghanistan is tribal but when it comes to invasion from another country and they band together. So if you don't understand these things you are just sitting in your armchair blowing hot air.

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Jul 15, 2021 17:24:44   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Have you had boots on the ground in Afghanistan? If not you have no idea what you're talking about. I saw soldiers die. After about four months in I came to an understanding that we were not there so much to help the Afghan people as to protect the contractors. I meet one, his only job was to install and repair security locks. He may go more than a month without having to do anything. Over a hundred thousand a year, he was on his sixth. So that's over six thousand dollars while soldiers were dying. So yes we should pull out. Alexander the Great, England and Russia could not conquer the country. Afghanistan is tribal but when it comes to invasion from another country and they band together. So if you don't understand these things you are just sitting in your armchair blowing hot air.
Have you had boots on the ground in Afghanistan? I... (show quote)

True enough, Sarge

Below excerpt from https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-40247-1.html

"I wish all the armchair generals who have never heard a shot fired in anger could have seen the new guy who struggled for life and identity. The fight was over, and we were evacuating casualties. A Marine had suffered a head wound that had robbed him of the ability to speak. He didn't have his dog tags. The corpsman had put an evac tag on him and expressed concern because he didn't know the Marine's name. The wounded man rolled onto his side and wrote his name in the dirt with his finger, as we watched in stunned silence".

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