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I know more than absolutely nothing. (Thanks for the low bar.) And so does he. (I'm not saying he'd agree with anything I write though; that's a different thing.) It was about the topic "Christian values" -- Christian values are similar to other religions' values. For example, religions generally tell us to be good to each other, to be kind, to be humble, and to behave responsibly. There's usually something about being obedient too, I think.

In addition, it seems that Christianity is one of the religions that finds things to get violent about. So we had the Conquistadores, the Inquisition, and the Crusades. The Conquistadores, the Inquisition, and probably even the Crusades were all disgraceful. I wonder what religion Jesus would prefer? Maybe Baha'i; they seem relatively peaceful and open-minded: those are Jesus-like qualities (in my opinion).

I think Jesus was too violent a couple of times: there's the time when he was driving money-changers out of a temple, and a time when he seems to have condemned a fruit tree to wither (but I suspect he didn't really do that to the tree). But these are not the main aspect of his behavior. I think being peaceful, openminded, loving, and of service to others are among the more essential Jesus-like qualities. (Also courageous; but he didn't seem to make a thing of it; he just was courageous, which is important, but I don't think he talked much about courage as a virtue.) I think Jesus was an example, such that we are supposed to try to behave as he would -- particularly if we are to be real "Christians".

I think all the supernatural stuff is an anomaly and not really what Jesus was about nor should be about. But the establishment Christianity is way into the supernatural stuff (including miracles).

I never, or seldom, have cared for miracles; they are news I can't use, and maybe false anyway.

If I ever get into a really tight situation, then at that time I'll hope for a miracle from God, but what will probably happen is just that I'll either die, or go crazy, or get really lucky; and any of those will make my suffering stop, and I might feel that it's a miracle; but the real supreme being, if it's watching and commenting, would probably just say it was a random thing.

I might feel that I have a friend in God. But that's not something to prove or disprove; it exists if I just feel that way.

woodguru

That really says it well, how fake or alt christians are a christian's worst enemies, there is nobody less christian than a self righteous and deluded imposter using the bible to support hatred and bigotry.

woodguru

The Gnostics were a very peaceful and loving group, their religious beliefs embraced all of the best qualities of a loving god and religion...of course christians persecuted and wiped them out because they would not denounce their beliefs and embrace the word of god.

woodguru

Six percent are zealots that have no problem with violence in the name of their version of god...they are hate filled bigots, and that is not what it is to be a christian. You defile the millions of truly good christians equating them to hate filled nasty people that don't know what it is to be a christian.

woodguru

I know christians do not have hatred in their hearts, they can't have a clue if they do.

woodguru

That is what fake christians take heart in, they can be truly deplorable human beings and take comfort that god loves them anyway...when they are miserable human beings.

woodguru

I don't need to believe in a god that is defined as contradictions...but I know good loving people when I see them, and I know miserable human beings when I see them, because all they can talk about is negative crap about all the things they hate. And why are the most self righteous god spouting people always the ones that hate and object to so many people?

Singularity

Fewer "real" Christians than the number of folks who identify as LGBTQ+!?

Singularity

James 1:27, KJV: "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."

I have often wondered, who is this Father, in contradistinction from God?

Singularity

Vicarious redemption via substututional atonement is immoral. And completely emotionally unsatisfactory.

We all know that, in our bones!

Otherwise, Mr. Trump could haved saved the country by simply serving Mrs. Clinton's imagined jail term, and thus have saved us all the blather and bother of his presidency.

Dragnet

When “science” can answer these questions with definite answers (not just preposterous
quessworks), then it will deserve a chance to redeem itself.
How was the universe created ?
How was life created ?
How was consciousness created ?
Let’s see your answers and your proof.

Rose42

The number doesn’t surprise me though it is sad. Christ told us few would find the way and Peter said Christ was ‘a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense’.

Alan Finch

There are 2 types of Christians, those who Know Jesus as their Saviour, and those who know Jesus as their Lord. The majority of Christians in America only know Jesus as their Saviour.

One of the biggest lies being taught in the Church today is that all Christians will rule & reign with Christ. However, Jesus taught in a number of His parables that only Believers in Christ who come under His Lordship will rule & reign with Him for all eternity.

Many Christians do not seem to be Christians because they never came under the Lordship of Jesus, but they are still Christians because they do know Jesus as their Saviour, they just don't know Jesus as their Lord.

The Christians who don't know Jesus as their Lord, are going to be shocked when they will one day come to the reality that they will not rule & reign with Christ for all eternity.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Redeem itself from what???