The Sad State of Today's GOP: By Christina Zhao Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Sunday said none of the five GOP presidents whom he worked for would recognize today's...

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

By Christina Zhao

Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Sunday said none of the five GOP presidents whom he worked for would recognize today's Republican Party because it lacks the "values and principles" that existed under previous administrations.

Gates has worked under eight past U.S. presidents in various roles, including Republicans Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.

As the GOP rift continues between the Trump wing and the establishment wing, Gates on Sunday told CBS News host John Dickerson on Face the Nation that he has "serious concerns about the future" of the party.

"I've worked for eight presidents. Five of them were Republicans. I don't think any of them would recognize the Republican Party today," he said. "I think in terms of the values and the principles that the Republican Party stood for under those five presidents are hard to find these days."

Gates explained that his views about the GOP is partly due to Trump's influence over the party and the Capitol riot.

"I think there is that, but I think it's also broader than that," he said, adding that Chinese President Xi Jinping has noted America's "paralysis, particularly in Congress, and an inability to get anything really big done."

He added: "The only way to counter that, frankly, is through actions, through being able to actually get some things done in Washington that we haven't been able to get done for a long time."

Since Election Day, Trump and his GOP allies have repeatedly pushed baseless claims that widespread voter fraud caused his defeat.

Biden has been in office for more than four months but most GOP voters don't believe he beat Trump in the presidential election. In a recent CBS News poll, conducted between May 12 and 14, about 67 percent of Republicans said he's not the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.

Gates blamed the current state of the GOP on a culture of political game-playing in D.C., arguing that most Republicans in Congress don't believe Trump's voter fraud conspiracy theories.

"I've read quotes from Republicans on the Hill that basically say, you know, in their heart of hearts, there probably aren't five people up here that actually believe that the election was stolen," he said. "So part of this is political gaming rather than a real conviction that the election was stolen."

Earlier this month, Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney was ousted from the No. 3 leadership position by the House GOP after she repeatedly clashed with Trump and voted for his second impeachment.

Liberty Tree

slatten49 wrote:

By Christina Zhao

Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Sunday said none of the five GOP presidents whom he worked for would recognize today's Republican Party because it lacks the "values and principles" that existed under previous administrations.

Gates has worked under eight past U.S. presidents in various roles, including Republicans Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.

As the GOP rift continues between the Trump wing and the establishment wing, Gates on Sunday told CBS News host John Dickerson on Face the Nation that he has "serious concerns about the future" of the party.

"I've worked for eight presidents. Five of them were Republicans. I don't think any of them would recognize the Republican Party today," he said. "I think in terms of the values and the principles that the Republican Party stood for under those five presidents are hard to find these days."

Gates explained that his views about the GOP is partly due to Trump's influence over the party and the Capitol riot.

"I think there is that, but I think it's also broader than that," he said, adding that Chinese President Xi Jinping has noted America's "paralysis, particularly in Congress, and an inability to get anything really big done."

He added: "The only way to counter that, frankly, is through actions, through being able to actually get some things done in Washington that we haven't been able to get done for a long time."

Since Election Day, Trump and his GOP allies have repeatedly pushed baseless claims that widespread voter fraud caused his defeat.

Biden has been in office for more than four months but most GOP voters don't believe he beat Trump in the presidential election. In a recent CBS News poll, conducted between May 12 and 14, about 67 percent of Republicans said he's not the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.

Gates blamed the current state of the GOP on a culture of political game-playing in D.C., arguing that most Republicans in Congress don't believe Trump's voter fraud conspiracy theories.

"I've read quotes from Republicans on the Hill that basically say, you know, in their heart of hearts, there probably aren't five people up here that actually believe that the election was stolen," he said. "So part of this is political gaming rather than a real conviction that the election was stolen."

Earlier this month, Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney was ousted from the No. 3 leadership position by the House GOP after she repeatedly clashed with Trump and voted for his second impeachment.

By Christina Zhao br br Former U.S. Secretary of... (show quote)

What will be really sad is the state of affairs of America if Democrats stay in power much longer.

victor doherty

slatten49 wrote:

By Christina Zhao

Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Sunday said none of the five GOP presidents whom he worked for would recognize today's Republican Party because it lacks the "values and principles" that existed under previous administrations.

Gates has worked under eight past U.S. presidents in various roles, including Republicans Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.

As the GOP rift continues between the Trump wing and the establishment wing, Gates on Sunday told CBS News host John Dickerson on Face the Nation that he has "serious concerns about the future" of the party.

"I've worked for eight presidents. Five of them were Republicans. I don't think any of them would recognize the Republican Party today," he said. "I think in terms of the values and the principles that the Republican Party stood for under those five presidents are hard to find these days."

Gates explained that his views about the GOP is partly due to Trump's influence over the party and the Capitol riot.

"I think there is that, but I think it's also broader than that," he said, adding that Chinese President Xi Jinping has noted America's "paralysis, particularly in Congress, and an inability to get anything really big done."

He added: "The only way to counter that, frankly, is through actions, through being able to actually get some things done in Washington that we haven't been able to get done for a long time."

Since Election Day, Trump and his GOP allies have repeatedly pushed baseless claims that widespread voter fraud caused his defeat.

Biden has been in office for more than four months but most GOP voters don't believe he beat Trump in the presidential election. In a recent CBS News poll, conducted between May 12 and 14, about 67 percent of Republicans said he's not the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.

Gates blamed the current state of the GOP on a culture of political game-playing in D.C., arguing that most Republicans in Congress don't believe Trump's voter fraud conspiracy theories.

"I've read quotes from Republicans on the Hill that basically say, you know, in their heart of hearts, there probably aren't five people up here that actually believe that the election was stolen," he said. "So part of this is political gaming rather than a real conviction that the election was stolen."

Earlier this month, Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney was ousted from the No. 3 leadership position by the House GOP after she repeatedly clashed with Trump and voted for his second impeachment.

By Christina Zhao br br Former U.S. Secretary of... (show quote)

the republican principles and values ,nixon treasonous added 7 more yrs of war,reagan treasonous flooded the streets with cocaine.both bushes lie us into war ,trump just a fraud and a conman putin puppet.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

slatten49 wrote:

By Christina Zhao

Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Sunday said none of the five GOP presidents whom he worked for would recognize today's Republican Party because it lacks the "values and principles" that existed under previous administrations.

Gates has worked under eight past U.S. presidents in various roles, including Republicans Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.

As the GOP rift continues between the Trump wing and the establishment wing, Gates on Sunday told CBS News host John Dickerson on Face the Nation that he has "serious concerns about the future" of the party.

"I've worked for eight presidents. Five of them were Republicans. I don't think any of them would recognize the Republican Party today," he said. "I think in terms of the values and the principles that the Republican Party stood for under those five presidents are hard to find these days."

Gates explained that his views about the GOP is partly due to Trump's influence over the party and the Capitol riot.

"I think there is that, but I think it's also broader than that," he said, adding that Chinese President Xi Jinping has noted America's "paralysis, particularly in Congress, and an inability to get anything really big done."

He added: "The only way to counter that, frankly, is through actions, through being able to actually get some things done in Washington that we haven't been able to get done for a long time."

Since Election Day, Trump and his GOP allies have repeatedly pushed baseless claims that widespread voter fraud caused his defeat.

Biden has been in office for more than four months but most GOP voters don't believe he beat Trump in the presidential election. In a recent CBS News poll, conducted between May 12 and 14, about 67 percent of Republicans said he's not the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.

Gates blamed the current state of the GOP on a culture of political game-playing in D.C., arguing that most Republicans in Congress don't believe Trump's voter fraud conspiracy theories.

"I've read quotes from Republicans on the Hill that basically say, you know, in their heart of hearts, there probably aren't five people up here that actually believe that the election was stolen," he said. "So part of this is political gaming rather than a real conviction that the election was stolen."

Earlier this month, Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney was ousted from the No. 3 leadership position by the House GOP after she repeatedly clashed with Trump and voted for his second impeachment.

By Christina Zhao br br Former U.S. Secretary of... (show quote)

Well howdy there ol' Goober.

If I were you I'd stock up on non perishables, ammo and fuel.

Because the 'real' sad state of affairs will occur at your supermarket, and your fuel pumps.

And when the S hits the fan, you're definitely gonna need your ammo to protect you from the hellfire that the Stupid Joe super inflation event will unleash.

I'm glad Mr Trump is a private citizen now, and I actually wish he wouldn't run again.

I want democrats in charge because the people who will suffer most from the democrat's chicanery are the poor dumb slobs that voted for them.

By the way, have you been getting plenty of rain around your neck of Texas ?

Carol Kelly

victor doherty wrote:

the republican principles and values ,nixon treasonous added 7 more yrs of war,reagan treasonous flooded the streets with cocaine.both bushes lie us into war ,trump just a fraud and a conman putin puppet.

I don’t understand how you know all this. Remarkable.

Carol Kelly

Wolf counselor wrote:

Well howdy there ol' Goober. br br If I were you ... (show quote)

I worry about Trump. He’s beginning to talk about rallies and I’m hoping he has great body guards. This is a sick and very frightening world.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Wolf counselor wrote:

Well howdy there ol' Goober. br br If I were you ... (show quote)

My being just 85 miles east of you, Wolf, I figured you to know we've been getting ample rain. However, unlike it may seem to others, neither America nor the sky above is falling.

debeda

slatten49 wrote:

By Christina Zhao

Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Sunday said none of the five GOP presidents whom he worked for would recognize today's Republican Party because it lacks the "values and principles" that existed under previous administrations.

Gates has worked under eight past U.S. presidents in various roles, including Republicans Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.

As the GOP rift continues between the Trump wing and the establishment wing, Gates on Sunday told CBS News host John Dickerson on Face the Nation that he has "serious concerns about the future" of the party.

"I've worked for eight presidents. Five of them were Republicans. I don't think any of them would recognize the Republican Party today," he said. "I think in terms of the values and the principles that the Republican Party stood for under those five presidents are hard to find these days."

Gates explained that his views about the GOP is partly due to Trump's influence over the party and the Capitol riot.

"I think there is that, but I think it's also broader than that," he said, adding that Chinese President Xi Jinping has noted America's "paralysis, particularly in Congress, and an inability to get anything really big done."

He added: "The only way to counter that, frankly, is through actions, through being able to actually get some things done in Washington that we haven't been able to get done for a long time."

Since Election Day, Trump and his GOP allies have repeatedly pushed baseless claims that widespread voter fraud caused his defeat.

Biden has been in office for more than four months but most GOP voters don't believe he beat Trump in the presidential election. In a recent CBS News poll, conducted between May 12 and 14, about 67 percent of Republicans said he's not the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.

Gates blamed the current state of the GOP on a culture of political game-playing in D.C., arguing that most Republicans in Congress don't believe Trump's voter fraud conspiracy theories.

"I've read quotes from Republicans on the Hill that basically say, you know, in their heart of hearts, there probably aren't five people up here that actually believe that the election was stolen," he said. "So part of this is political gaming rather than a real conviction that the election was stolen."

Earlier this month, Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney was ousted from the No. 3 leadership position by the House GOP after she repeatedly clashed with Trump and voted for his second impeachment.

By Christina Zhao br br Former U.S. Secretary of... (show quote)

I wonder if JFK, LBJ, or Jimmy Carter would recognize today's democratic party? I actually wonder if Bill Clinton actually recognizes it (I don't think he'd admit to it being the dumpster fire it is, tho) Things change. Some for the better, and some for the worse. A good example in the right now is President Trump did the things he campaigned on consistently. President Biden is doing the opposite of the things he campaigned on. Consistently. That's why so many became turned off by politics for so long. It was always say whatever will get you elected, then do what your sponsors want once there. I must say, Obama also fulfilled his hope and change campaign. Cuz he never fully articulated what what he hoped for, or what he intended to change. So he didn't lie, he was just damned good at obfuscating......

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

slatten49 wrote:

My being just 85 miles east of you, Wolf, I figured you to know we've been getting ample rain. However, unlike it may seem to others, neither America nor the sky above is falling.

The sky ain't falling but yer' clumsy president sure is.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

slatten49 wrote:

By Christina Zhao

Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Sunday said none of the five GOP presidents whom he worked for would recognize today's Republican Party because it lacks the "values and principles" that existed under previous administrations.

Gates has worked under eight past U.S. presidents in various roles, including Republicans Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.

As the GOP rift continues between the Trump wing and the establishment wing, Gates on Sunday told CBS News host John Dickerson on Face the Nation that he has "serious concerns about the future" of the party.

"I've worked for eight presidents. Five of them were Republicans. I don't think any of them would recognize the Republican Party today," he said. "I think in terms of the values and the principles that the Republican Party stood for under those five presidents are hard to find these days."

Gates explained that his views about the GOP is partly due to Trump's influence over the party and the Capitol riot.

"I think there is that, but I think it's also broader than that," he said, adding that Chinese President Xi Jinping has noted America's "paralysis, particularly in Congress, and an inability to get anything really big done."

He added: "The only way to counter that, frankly, is through actions, through being able to actually get some things done in Washington that we haven't been able to get done for a long time."

Since Election Day, Trump and his GOP allies have repeatedly pushed baseless claims that widespread voter fraud caused his defeat.

Biden has been in office for more than four months but most GOP voters don't believe he beat Trump in the presidential election. In a recent CBS News poll, conducted between May 12 and 14, about 67 percent of Republicans said he's not the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.

Gates blamed the current state of the GOP on a culture of political game-playing in D.C., arguing that most Republicans in Congress don't believe Trump's voter fraud conspiracy theories.

"I've read quotes from Republicans on the Hill that basically say, you know, in their heart of hearts, there probably aren't five people up here that actually believe that the election was stolen," he said. "So part of this is political gaming rather than a real conviction that the election was stolen."

Earlier this month, Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney was ousted from the No. 3 leadership position by the House GOP after she repeatedly clashed with Trump and voted for his second impeachment.

By Christina Zhao br br Former U.S. Secretary of... (show quote)

fine post Slatts, I watched Gates on the show Sunday and as always he was informative, well spoken and clear..

He is a great example of a Republican who will and does also remark on errors and problems within his party.. He is willing to point out what is not good as well as championing his preferred policies.

He is a good man..

we may well have a rugged recovery ahead, but we can do the job and short of obstruction, America will now be a better country..

ImLogicallyRight

slatten49 wrote:

By Christina Zhao

Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Sunday said none of the five GOP presidents whom he worked for would recognize today's Republican Party because it lacks the "values and principles" that existed under previous administrations.

Gates has worked under eight past U.S. presidents in various roles, including Republicans Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.

As the GOP rift continues between the Trump wing and the establishment wing, Gates on Sunday told CBS News host John Dickerson on Face the Nation that he has "serious concerns about the future" of the party.

"I've worked for eight presidents. Five of them were Republicans. I don't think any of them would recognize the Republican Party today," he said. "I think in terms of the values and the principles that the Republican Party stood for under those five presidents are hard to find these days."

Gates explained that his views about the GOP is partly due to Trump's influence over the party and the Capitol riot.

"I think there is that, but I think it's also broader than that," he said, adding that Chinese President Xi Jinping has noted America's "paralysis, particularly in Congress, and an inability to get anything really big done."

He added: "The only way to counter that, frankly, is through actions, through being able to actually get some things done in Washington that we haven't been able to get done for a long time."

Since Election Day, Trump and his GOP allies have repeatedly pushed baseless claims that widespread voter fraud caused his defeat.

Biden has been in office for more than four months but most GOP voters don't believe he beat Trump in the presidential election. In a recent CBS News poll, conducted between May 12 and 14, about 67 percent of Republicans said he's not the legitimate winner of the 2020 election.

Gates blamed the current state of the GOP on a culture of political game-playing in D.C., arguing that most Republicans in Congress don't believe Trump's voter fraud conspiracy theories.

"I've read quotes from Republicans on the Hill that basically say, you know, in their heart of hearts, there probably aren't five people up here that actually believe that the election was stolen," he said. "So part of this is political gaming rather than a real conviction that the election was stolen."

Earlier this month, Wyoming Representative Liz Cheney was ousted from the No. 3 leadership position by the House GOP after she repeatedly clashed with Trump and voted for his second impeachment.

By Christina Zhao br br Former U.S. Secretary of... (show quote)

***Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Sunday said none of the five GOP presidents whom he worked for would recognize today's Republican Party because it lacks the "values and principles" that existed under previous administrations.

>>>And any reasonable democrat from the past wouldn't recognize the democrat party as it is today. They might recognize it under its former name, the Communist party.

ImLogicallyRight

Liberty Tree wrote:

What will be really sad is the state of affairs of America if Democrats stay in power much longer.

A land without liberty and facing slavery and poverty, except for the elites.

Get this libs, especially blacks. You will end up pickin' cotton again and the man in that mansion on the hill will now be known as a democrat billionaire. You either get smart or go full circle, make that circle back, 200 years and no republicans left fighting for your equality and freedom. .

ImLogicallyRight

victor doherty wrote:

the republican principles and values ,nixon treasonous added 7 more yrs of war,reagan treasonous flooded the streets with cocaine.both bushes lie us into war ,trump just a fraud and a conman putin puppet.

Try simple spell check and sentence structure, and we might know what the hell you are lying about now.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

ImLogicallyRight wrote:

A land without liberty and facing slavery and poverty, except for the elites.

Get this libs, especially blacks. You will end up pickin' cotton again and the man in that mansion on the hill will now be known as a democrat billionaire. You either get smart or go full circle, make that circle back, 200 years and no republicans left fighting for your equality and freedom. .

strange words coming from the fool on the hill who fully and unconditionally supports the effort of republicans to make our nations into a full oligarchy..

with the firing in trump, the nation is now moving away from the serfdom existence which the former occupant championed and worked to accomplish..

Every working person in America rejoices with the ending of such obvious work for the ending of the middleclass.

ImLogicallyRight

permafrost wrote:

strange words coming from the fool on the hill who fully and unconditionally supports the effort of republicans to make our nations into a full oligarchy..

with the firing in trump, the nation is now moving away from the serfdom existence which the former occupant championed and worked to accomplish..

Every working person in America rejoices with the ending of such obvious work for the ending of the middleclass.

***
strange words coming from the fool on the hill who fully and unconditionally supports the effort of republicans to make our nations into a full oligarchy..
>>>Bull Schitte. Proof?

***with the firing in trump, the nation is now moving away from the serfdom existence which the former occupant championed and worked to accomplish..
>>>Bull Schitte. Proof?

***Every working person in America rejoices with the ending of such obvious work for the ending of the middleclass.
>>>Bull Schitte. Proof?