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May 16, 2021 20:39:44   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Jew, Hebrew, Israelite, different names for the same people.

Origins of the Words "Jew" and "Judaism"

The original name for the people we now call Jews was Hebrews. The word "Hebrew" (in Hebrew, "Ivri") is first used in the Torah to describe Abraham (Gen. 14:13). The word is apparently derived from the name Eber, one of Abraham's ancestors. Another tradition teaches that the word comes from the word "eyver," which means "the other side," referring to the fact that Abraham came from the other side of the Euphrates, or referring to the fact Abraham was separated from the other nations morally and spiritually.

Another name used for the people is Children of Israel or Israelites, which refers to the fact that the people are descendants of Jacob, who was also called Israel.

The word "Jew" (in Hebrew, "Yehudi") is derived from the name Judah, which was the name of one of Jacob's twelve sons. Judah was the ancestor of one of the tribes of Israel, which was named after him.
Likewise, the word Judaism literally means "Judah-ism," that is, the religion of the Yehudim.

Originally, the term Yehudi referred specifically to members of the tribe of Judah, as distinguished from the other tribes of Israel. However, after the death of King Solomon, the nation of Israel was split into two kingdoms: the kingdom of Judah and the kingdom of Israel (I Kings 12; II Chronicles 10). After that time, the word Yehudi could properly be used to describe anyone from the kingdom of Judah, which included the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi, as well as scattered settlements from other tribes. The most obvious biblical example of this usage is in Esther 2:5, where Mordecai is referred to as both a Yehudi and a member of the tribe of Benjamin.

In the 6th century B.C.E., the kingdom of Israel was conquered by Assyria and the ten tribes were exiled from the land (II Kings 17), leaving only the tribes in the kingdom of Judah remaining to carry on Abraham's heritage. These people of the kingdom of Judah were generally known to themselves and to other nations as Yehudim (Jews), and that name continues to be used today.

In common speech, the word "Jew" is used to refer to all of the physical and spiritual descendants of Jacob/Israel, as well as to the patriarchs Abraham and Isaac and their wives, and the word "Judaism" is used to refer to their beliefs.
Jew, Hebrew, Israelite, different names for the sa... (show quote)


BS! What is your source? Some rabbi, no doubt.

The letter 'J' wasn't created until the 18th century!

"At that time Rezin king of Syria, recouered Elath to Syria, & draue the Iewes from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there vnto this day." 2 Kings 16:6 (1611 KJV)

http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/who-are-jews/

Who are Jews?
Who are the Jewish people of today related to? What does DNA science reveal about who are the ancestors of the Jews?

The answer to these questions about the history of the Jewish Ashkenazi or Khazar Jews empire will shock you, and will no doubt cause you to question everything you know about modern day Jews and the state of Israel.

We’re going to cover some ground-breaking information that is based on factual science; not someone’s opinion, not what the news reports, and not what Christian teachers say.

The title may cause you to think that this study will be “antisemitic” but as you will soon learn, that is not possible.

We need to pray for the true Jews to accept Jesus as their Messiah, but we also need to discern the truth about the leaders of Israel, the Ashkenazi Jews.

DNA research science from Dr. Eran Elhaik (a Jew) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, have confirmed that, “97% of the 17 million of the world’s Jews ARE NOT descendants of Abraham.”

In 2001, genetics research by Dr. Ariella Oppenheim of Hebrew University in Tel Aviv, produced basically the same results as Dr. Elhaik. Oppenheim’s study also found that the Jews origins are in Khazaria, and that they are of Turkic bloodline. She also reported that some Palestinians have the chromosome in their blood indicating they are Cohanim and Israelite. (Me: Maybe that explains why Zionists want to get rid of Palestinians.)

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May 16, 2021 20:45:08   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
I stopped listening to David Jeremiah when I realized he was following John Hagee!! He's wrong and I can prove it!!
With every post on the subject, you've been trying to prove that Jews are not God's chosen people.

The Jews (Hebrews, Israelites) ARE God's chosen people. Nothing you say or interpret or rewrite or spin is going to change that.

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May 16, 2021 20:51:42   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
With every post on the subject, you've been trying to prove that Jews are not God's chosen people.

The Jews (Hebrews, Israelites) ARE God's chosen people. Nothing you say or interpret or rewrite or spin is going to change that.


Amen. Another anti Semitic hiding behind twisted words.

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May 16, 2021 21:09:11   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
You have a twisted interpretation of the Bible!!!

Israelites, not Jews, were given the promise by God the land of Israel - remember, God changed Jacob's name to Israel. Jacob/Israel's twelve sons represent the land of Israel.

Jews are descendants of Esau and Turks.


Wrong...Jews are from the tribe of Judah.

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May 16, 2021 21:12:50   #
martsiva
 
Michael Rich wrote:
Wrong...Jews are from the tribe of Judah.


True but not when God chose them, for the tribe of Judah was not in existence at that point.

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May 16, 2021 21:26:27   #
Mikeyavelli
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Where has Sici been?


Organizing the resistance.

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May 16, 2021 21:33:54   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
Oppenheim’s study also found that the Jews origins are in Khazaria, and that they are of Turkic bloodline.[/b]
If the Creator of this Universe and all life in it decides to chose a certain group of people to bring His kingdom to earth, He will chose whomever He wants and obviously would not care from whence they came. IOW, it ain't up to us to decide who God's chosen ones are, no matter where they came from.

Ginny_Dandy wrote:
(Me: Maybe that explains why Zionists want to get rid of Palestinians.)


I'm not gonna ask what your definition of "Zionist" is because I'm sure it comes from the infamous anti-Semitic forgery known as the Protocols yada yada.

330 Million Muslims populate 3.5 million square miles surrounding an 8000 square mile spit of land populated by 9 million people, 6 million of whom are Jews, and you think the Israelis are trying to get rid of the Palestinians?

Hamas is firing a thousand or so rocket per day into Israel, that's a lot of expensive hardware. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows that the Palestinians, particularly Hamas, do not have the resources nor the capabilities for producing food for such a hungry beast. Instead, they have a sugardaddy - Iran.

Yep, Iran supplies the Palestinian militants with engineers, blueprints, parts and even complete rockets - like the Iranian Fajr missile.

FYI: It ain't the Jews who are trying to wipe out the Palestinians.

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May 16, 2021 22:15:43   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I'm not gonna ask what your definition of "Zionist" is because I'm sure it comes from the infamous anti-Semitic forgery known as the Protocols yada yada.

330 Million Muslims populate 3.5 million square miles surrounding an 8000 square mile spit of land populated by 9 million people, 6 million of whom are Jews, and you think the Israelis are trying to get rid of the Palestinians?

Hamas is firing a thousand or so rocket per day into Israel, that's a lot of expensive hardware. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows that the Palestinians, particularly Hamas, do not have the resources nor the capabilities for producing food for such a hungry beast. Instead, they have a sugardaddy - Iran.

Yep, Iran supplies the Palestinian militants with engineers, blueprints, parts and even complete rockets - like the Iranian Fajr missile.

FYI: It ain't the Jews who are trying to wipe out the Palestinians.
I'm not gonna ask what your definition of "Zi... (show quote)


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The international left has been trying to reverse the outcome of any war won by America or Israel.
Without the dominance of these white nuclear powers, the lefty dream of a borderless one government world with Islam as the policing force can easily be achieved. They must remove America and Israel, and Russia from power to do so.

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May 16, 2021 22:48:35   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
With every post on the subject, you've been trying to prove that Jews are not God's chosen people.

The Jews (Hebrews, Israelites) ARE God's chosen people. Nothing you say or interpret or rewrite or spin is going to change that.


You don't have to believe me - the Bible says it!!

Genesis 17:6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitfull, and I will make nations of thee, and Kings shall come out of thee. (How many Jews have ever become a king - until recently?)

John 8:33 The Jews admit to Jesus that they have never been in bondage.

John 8:39 'They answer and said to Him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham."

40. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41. "Ye do the deeds of your father." Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42. Jesus said unto them, "If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me."

43. "Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44. "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

And who killed Jesus?

https://rense.com/general66/rosen.htm

The Harold Wallace
Rosenthal Interview

Dear Jeff,

Please forward this information to above - trust you'll take a peek first and perhaps post it on your excellent site.

Dear Joseph,

Like you, I find the Protocols irrefutable evidence of a deliberate and sustained agenda for world control or NWO. When I discovered the text in 1997 through Ivan Frazer's Truth Campaign www.thetruthcampaign.co.uk , I photocopied loads and distributed them where I could to wake people up. As you have no doubt discovered, you get a lot of flak in return.

I was therefore pleased to discover the attached which, I feel, puts an end to any debate as to their authenticity - right from the horse's mouth! This particular horse was duly silenced by assassination shortly thereafter but I am grateful to this man for doing this one decent thing in his short life (albeit inadvertently) on behalf of humanity.

The Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview 1976 by Charles A Weisman published June 1992
www.antichristconspiracy.com

Serena Martin

The Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview 1976

The Hidden Tyranny

INTRODUCTION


This booklet contains the text of a most revealing and shocking interview of a Jew by the name of Harold Rosenthal, which was conducted in 1976, by a concerned patriot, a Walter White, Jr.. {b]Mr. Rosenthal, an influential Jew[/b] learned in the Jewish ways and involved in the workings of government in Washington, D.C., explained the Jewish involvement and cause of the major problems we face today.

Rosenthal, in exposing certain aspects of the 'inner invisible world of Jewry', revealed the modes and tactics Jews have used in destroying Christian civilization and covertly attaining control over our lives and governments. The result has been a 'hidden tyranny' upon us like the tyranny waged against the Saints by the red beast system of Revelation referred to as 'Mystery Babylon'.

But how could such a small number of Jews enslave so many people and gain such an overwhelming control over their governments, especially without their being aware of it? The answer to this may be found in Christ's parable of the unjust steward, which represents Jewry. They are able to prevail in the world despite their ungodly ways because of their cunning and shrewd ways. As Christ said "For the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light." (Luke 16:8)

In other words, the Jew, with his worldly mind set, is wiser than God's Christian people. When you read the words of Mr. Rosenthal the reality of this statement will come to light. This problem was so prevalent and important for us to overcome that Christ had instructed us to "be wise as serpents". (Matthew 10:16)

America and the world is now covered in political, economic, moral and social problems which need to be acted upon by Christian people. As Edmund Burke stated: "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." But before we can properly act we need a proper (not just a superficial) understanding of the problem. This booklet will help provide the reader with that understanding.

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May 16, 2021 23:00:28   #
Auntie Lulu
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You're becoming more of a Communist and less of a Christian with each passing day.

There were no Muslims before the 7th century CE, and there was no culture, society or a homogeneous group of people called "Palestinians" prior to the beginning of the 20th century CE.

Ordained by God to be king, David established the Kingdom of Israel and Judea 16 centuries before the Islamic prophet was born. It wasn't Muslims or Palestinians who built the City of David and Jerusalem.

It was Muslims who conquered Jerusalem 1600 years AFTER King David.

King David's son Solomon, BTW, built the first temple right close to where the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa mosque now stand.

The Palestinians as we know them today are a political construct (European nationalism introduced to the Arabs), they are not the gathering of ancient Palestinian tribes. There was no Palestinian diaspora, or "scattering", cuz there were no Palestinians on earth before 1921 AD.

The fact is Hamas is the terrorist mob in this conflict, not the Israelis.

Israel is 8000 square miles populated by 9 million people, 6 million of whom are Jews, surrounded by 3.5 million square miles populated by 330 million Muslims, 4 million of whom are Palestinians. If Muslims control a region 437 times the size of Israel and outnumber the Israelis 55 to 1, why would just 4 million Muslims need another 8000 square miles of land?

If you think Hamas, an Iranian terror proxy, and the PNA are looking for real estate, you are sadly mistaken.
You're becoming more of a Communist and less of a ... (show quote)


Thank you for that reasonable reply! People just don't want to hear the background.

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May 16, 2021 23:16:25   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Michael Rich wrote:
Wrong...Jews are from the tribe of Judah.


WRONG!!! That's what they want you to believe.

The Jew, Mr. Harold Wallace Rosenthal, made this statement after admitting Jewish dominance in all sighificant national programs. He said, "We Jews continue to be amazed with the ease by which Christian Americans have fallen into our hands. While the naive Americans wait for Khrushchev to bury them, we have taught them to submit to our every demand." Asked how a nation could be captured without their knowing it, Mr. Rosenthal attributed this victory to absolute control of the media. He boasted of Jewish control of ALL NEWS. Any newspaper which refused to acquewsce to controlled news was brought to its knees by withdrawing advertising. Failing in this, the Jews stop the supply of news print and ink. "It's a very simple matter," he stated. Asked about men in high political office, Mr Rosenthal said that no one in the last three decades has achieved any political power without Jewish approval. "Americns have not had a presidential choice since 1932. Roosevelt was our man; every president since Roosevelt has been our man."In a discussion about George Wallace, Mr. Rosenthal smiled and suggested that we note where Wallace stands today.

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May 17, 2021 01:19:53   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I'm not gonna ask what your definition of "Zionist" is because I'm sure it comes from the infamous anti-Semitic forgery known as the Protocols yada yada.

Yep, Iran supplies the Palestinian militants with engineers, blueprints, parts and even complete rockets - like the Iranian Fajr missile.

FYI: It ain't the Jews who are trying to wipe out the Palestinians.


Theodor Herzl was the founder of the Modern Zionist movement. In his 1896 pamphlet Der Judenstaat, he envisioned the founding of a future independent Jewish state during the 20th century.

http://one-just-world.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-definitive-guide-to-anti-semitism.html#1

“The Holocaust is successful historical fiction”.

Or Jewish Professor Roger Dommergue who was working for the defence of Anti-Semitic Holocaust revisionists Ernest Zündel and fellow Holocaust-Denier, French Professor Dr. Faurisson, who stated that the Holocaust is a complete lie and fake.
Or even Jewish author Gerard Menuhin, son of the famous violinist and author of the book Tell the Truth & Shame the Devil, who stated on the Holocaust:
A good lie takes time to plan, and this was a very good lie.

Evidently, the whole Jewish edifice stands or falls on the perpetuation of this lie.

Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur — gives the game away.

It proves that it must be a lie.
Why else would one not be allowed to question it?
Because it might offend the "survivors"?
Because it "dishonors the dead"?
Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion.
No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

The Holocaust is the biggest lie in history. Germany has no blame for the Second World War.

Hitler was the only one who could have saved the world from the plutocratic and Jewish threat to subjugate the planet, which has happened since.

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May 17, 2021 02:24:46   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
Theodor Herzl was the founder of the Modern Zionist movement. In his 1896 pamphlet Der Judenstaat, he envisioned the founding of a future independent Jewish state during the 20th century.

http://one-just-world.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-definitive-guide-to-anti-semitism.html#1

“The Holocaust is successful historical fiction”.

Or Jewish Professor Roger Dommergue who was working for the defence of Anti-Semitic Holocaust revisionists Ernest Zündel and fellow Holocaust-Denier, French Professor Dr. Faurisson, who stated that the Holocaust is a complete lie and fake.
Or even Jewish author Gerard Menuhin, son of the famous violinist and author of the book Tell the Truth & Shame the Devil, who stated on the Holocaust:
A good lie takes time to plan, and this was a very good lie.

Evidently, the whole Jewish edifice stands or falls on the perpetuation of this lie.

Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur — gives the game away.

It proves that it must be a lie.
Why else would one not be allowed to question it?
Because it might offend the "survivors"?
Because it "dishonors the dead"?
Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion.
No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

The Holocaust is the biggest lie in history. Germany has no blame for the Second World War.

Hitler was the only one who could have saved the world from the plutocratic and Jewish threat to subjugate the planet, which has happened since.
Theodor Herzl was the founder of the Modern Zionis... (show quote)
You can stop trying to spin this. Your defense of Hitler and the Nazis and your denial of the Holocaust is an irrational and immoral defense of evil, and you project anti-Semitic propaganda and bald faced lies to do this.

But, you go ahead, believe whatever polishes your Swastika, your argument in defense of evil is not just irrational, immoral, and hateful, it is Sacrilegious.

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May 17, 2021 06:28:45   #
Big Kahuna
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I'm not gonna ask what your definition of "Zionist" is because I'm sure it comes from the infamous anti-Semitic forgery known as the Protocols yada yada.

330 Million Muslims populate 3.5 million square miles surrounding an 8000 square mile spit of land populated by 9 million people, 6 million of whom are Jews, and you think the Israelis are trying to get rid of the Palestinians?

Hamas is firing a thousand or so rocket per day into Israel, that's a lot of expensive hardware. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows that the Palestinians, particularly Hamas, do not have the resources nor the capabilities for producing food for such a hungry beast. Instead, they have a sugardaddy - Iran.

Yep, Iran supplies the Palestinian militants with engineers, blueprints, parts and even complete rockets - like the Iranian Fajr missile.

FYI: It ain't the Jews who are trying to wipe out the Palestinians.
I'm not gonna ask what your definition of "Zi... (show quote)


Like the saying goes, "if the Jewish people put down their armament the muzzies would wipe Israel off the map. If the Palestinians and their muzzies put down their arms, there would be peace in the Middle East".

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May 17, 2021 07:28:30   #
PeterS
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
China's position on Palestinian-Israeli conflict
CHINADAILY

Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi on Saturday expounded on China's position on the current Palestinian-Israeli conflict during a phone talk with Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi.

In recent days, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has continuously escalated, causing huge casualties, which is distressing, said Wang, before presenting China's views and proposals on the issue.

First, Wang said, the root cause of the deterioration of the situation is that for a long time there has not been a just solution to the Palestinian issue.

Especially, in recent years, the Middle East peace process has deviated from its original track, the UN Security Council resolutions have not been earnestly implemented and, in particular, the Palestinian right to build an independent state has been continuously violated, adding to the plight of the Palestinian people, which has led to the intensification of the Palestinian-Israeli confrontation and repeated conflicts, Wang said.

As has been proven, Wang noted, without a just settlement of the Palestinian issue, Palestine and Israel as well as the Middle East will not be able to achieve true peace.

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Second, Wang said, what is pressing now is the ceasefire and cessation of violence, and the Security Council has the responsibility to seek early de-escalation.

China, as the president of the Security Council for May, has pushed the Council to hold two emergency consultations on the Palestine-Israel conflict, and has drafted a press statement, in a bid to guide the Council to take actions, he added.

But regrettably, the Council has so far failed to reach an agreement, with the United States standing on the opposite side of international justice, Wang said, urging all members of the Council to shoulder their due responsibilities and make effective efforts to maintain regional peace and security.

Third, Wang said, an ultimate way out of the Palestinian issue lies in the implementation of the two-state solution. China will host an open debate on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict at the UN Security Council Sunday, and expects all parties to make a unified voice on this issue.

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China holds the opinion that the Security Council should reconfirm the two-state solution and urge Palestine and Israel to resume peace talks on the basis of the two-state solution as soon as possible, Wang added.

China will continue to firmly support the just cause of the Palestinian people to strive for the restoration of their legitimate national rights, support a just solution to the current issue through political dialogue, and support the UN, the League of Arab States and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation in playing a constructive role in this regard, Wang said.

For his part, Qureshi said that Pakistan agrees with China's position on the current Palestinian-Israeli conflict, supports the two-state solution and the just cause of the Palestinian people, and advocates promoting a solution through dialogue and negotiation between the Palestinian and Israeli sides.

Noting Pakistan highly appreciates China for upholding justice in the Security Council, Qureshi said his country is willing to strengthen communication and coordination with China to find ways to achieve a ceasefire and cessation of violence as well as to cool down the situation.
China's position on Palestinian-Israeli conflict b... (show quote)

No Justus, no Peace. Seems to be a universal statement...

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