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Agenda 21 Chapter 8 - The Final Coup
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Jul 20, 2013 13:56:53   #
Homestead
 
If you've quit, then you've quit. The whole backbone of the Constitution is the electoral process. If you've quit on that.........
There ain’t anything else.

In the meantime the progressives are doubling and tripling down on the electoral process because it works and that's how this country is designed. This country was never set up for apathetic quitters.

The progressives don't quit, I guess that's because they are better, smarter and stronger than we are.

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Jul 20, 2013 14:25:33   #
bahmer
 
adennya wrote:
Tasine -- I'd be more than happy to take it back. Tell me what to do besides what I already do that will get it back for me. And if you say "ballot box", I'll scream out loud. Until we can wean conservatives away from the Republican Party, we are doomed to a one party system. The R. Party abandoned conservatives a long time ago - it took me years to see it, but once I saw it, I registered as a Libertarian. I vote for individual freedoms, nothing more, nothing less.
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We need to get it through our heads that any plan, or hope of a plan, which relies on any "election" is doomed. It should be clear by now that the election process has been hijacked and our vote means nothing. I skip any blog post as soon as I see words like "the 2014 election", etc. The poster obviously has nothing to say in the way of a workable solution.
Tasine -- I'd be more than happy to take it back... (show quote)


So what is your solution? Curl into a little ball and lay down in the fetal position pull your blanket over your head and wait for the end. If this is your idea of a solution we are in deep sh-t. I would prefer to do something. As they say lead follow or get out of the way but at least do something otherwise you make a mockery of every brave American who has laid down his life for this great country. I may be wrong but I believe we have enough patriotic people in this country that if push comes to shove that OIllegal, Holder, and Soerows

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Jul 20, 2013 14:31:40   #
bahmer
 
[quote=bahmer]So what is your solution? Curl into a little ball and lay down in the fetal position pull your blanket over your head and wait for the end. If this is your idea of a solution we are in deep sh-t. I would prefer to do something. As they say lead follow or get out of the way but at least do something otherwise you make a mockery of every brave American who has laid down his life for this great country. I may be wrong but I believe we have enough patriotic people in this country that if push comes to shove that OIllegal, Holder, and Soros will wonder what happened to them. I know in fly over country they will be in for a real shock. I don't think that they have the might that think they have but are running a bluff and if we let them we are doomed.

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Jul 20, 2013 14:40:26   #
willy7
 
rumitoid wrote:
All these One World Order kooky conspiracy theories by Republicans are keeping real progress and peace mostly from Third World Nations. Either they cannot read or the majority of Republicans that vote against these measures are lying, hoping to let their big donors have more of the pie. Some of their distortions are truly nutty, real fruitcake stuff, that they say soberly and the non-thinking absorb like a sponge, repeating with their own exaggerations and paranoid imagination.

You are the one who 'doesn't get it'. Do you really believe the human race is getting better than it was even one generation ago?
I think you know it hasn't improved but is worse morally now. The point is that those who would rule do not have the best interests of us "unwashed masses" in mind. Their plans for ALL who aren't in the top one percent are far more deadly than what is presented in Tasine's posted URL. Your comments are interesting.

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Jul 20, 2013 14:48:24   #
faithistheword
 
I listen to Rush every day, and even He's starting to sound defeated.
If he, Sean, Levin, Mark Steyn, and all of US could unite, wouldn't that be powerful enough?
Their talk keeps us enraged, but with no outlet!
Come on, Guys, get something going! The democrats use the media, why don't you guys start your (OUR) own media?
We're dying to join SOMETHING!

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Jul 20, 2013 18:08:20   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
bahmer wrote:
We also have to start busing people to the polls as the democrats do. I think that we should still the game fairly even though we know they will not. We also need poll sitters at every polling place to make sure that things are done right and also to list grievances that occur during an election. In IL we still use paper ballots which can be recounted and I think we need to press for that to be the case nationally especially during a Pres. election. I for one do not trust electronic boxes because of the fraud that can be implemented into said programs with no way of proving one way or the other that said fraud took place.
We also have to start busing people to the polls a... (show quote)


Very few people use the electronic system that is available where I vote. Of course, if one looked he would find that all those judges are Republicans, too. Not a lot of time wasted here worrying about any kind of cheating for Dems. That makes life pretty easy to live.

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Jul 20, 2013 19:18:47   #
Homestead
 
We have to watch everyone, watch these two videos and make of them what you will.

Did Anonymous Save the Election from Karl Rove? (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QITGHymqZvo

Why it's not crazy to think Anonymous stopped Karl Rove From Stealing the Election, Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J2NMyUncos

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Jul 20, 2013 22:07:46   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
bahmer wrote:
You hit the nail on the head sadly. And to think it went bye so swiftly and silently. I say our demise is almost certain. I see no way out at present. Who gets to fire the first shot? Or has it already been fired?


It really didn't happen all that fast it all started over one hundred years ago and accelerated in 1964 the main thing we need to do is get our kids out of public schools that's where the most damage is being done

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Jul 20, 2013 22:15:19   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
alex wrote:
It really didn't happen all that fast it all started over one hundred years ago and accelerated in 1964 the main thing we need to do is get our kids out of public schools that's where the most damage is being done

And I suggest it be done ASAP!!
:-(

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Jul 20, 2013 22:38:10   #
Homestead
 
I agree that anyone that has children and cares about their future needs to get them out of public school as soon as possible, but, we should also be trying to get the federal government out of the education process.
That won't happen if we don't win elections, but, we should still be making a lot of noise about it.

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Jul 21, 2013 09:01:19   #
bahmer
 
Homestead wrote:
I agree that anyone that has children and cares about their future needs to get them out of public school as soon as possible, but, we should also be trying to get the federal government out of the education process.
That won't happen if we don't win elections, but, we should still be making a lot of noise about it.


I f the states refuse the feds money can they take over the reins themselves? I think all this is tied to federal funding which as usual causes states and state agencies to spend more and not be as accountable as they would be if they were a state run agency. Although some states like IL and CA aren't that accountable with anybody's money.

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Jul 21, 2013 10:07:15   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
bahmer wrote:
I f the states refuse the feds money can they take over the reins themselves? I think all this is tied to federal funding which as usual causes states and state agencies to spend more and not be as accountable as they would be if they were a state run agency. Although some states like IL and CA aren't that accountable with anybody's money.

Yes, the states can run a much better program than can the feds, but the rub comes when you either follow the feds rules, or you don't get federal funds. The federal funds come from the states. What we need to do is to quit sending money directly to DC. If we MUST be taxed, the payments should go to the states, and the states should send its proportion to the U.S. House of Representatives, and from that the budget should then be set - and every budget should be disallowed to go beyond the money sent to it by the states. THAT is how states maintain their soveignty and the citizens retain control. It is also how we keep the feds in check and the nation out of bankruptcy.

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Jul 21, 2013 15:46:08   #
rozied Loc: PA
 
That is a wonderful idea. That's the way it should work.
Tasine wrote:
Yes, the states can run a much better program than can the feds, but the rub comes when you either follow the feds rules, or you don't get federal funds. The federal funds come from the states. What we need to do is to quit sending money directly to DC. If we MUST be taxed, the payments should go to the states, and the states should send its proportion to the U.S. House of Representatives, and from that the budget should then be set - and every budget should be disallowed to go beyond the money sent to it by the states. THAT is how states maintain their soveignty and the citizens retain control. It is also how we keep the feds in check and the nation out of bankruptcy.
Yes, the states can run a much better program than... (show quote)

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Jul 21, 2013 16:33:53   #
bahmer
 
rozied wrote:
That is a wonderful idea. That's the way it should work.


Amen, Amen, Amen :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I feel like I am in church again for the second time today. Preach it brother!!

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Jul 21, 2013 16:42:14   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
adennya wrote:
We need to get it through our heads that any plan, or hope of a plan, which relies on any "election" is doomed. It should be clear by now that the election process has been hijacked and our vote means nothing. I skip any blog post as soon as I see words like "the 2014 election", etc. The poster obviously has nothing to say in the way of a workable solution.


Ah, so you are willing to let them take over the House in 2014 because it is of no importance? I think you and people like you are of little importance, too, because of your give up attitude.

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