I am so tired of the constant spittle and spew of the Right. They have no base in Reality. And no ability of self-discernment.
Apr 29, 2021 21:17:17 #
The Ms. wrote:
Rumi.... you have no insight of what truth is.... so heads up...
Elements of Truth:
What is the quality of the information
Who is the primary source of information
Is source independent
What is the intent of the information
How was the information obtained
Is the information complete
Can information be independently validated
Is the information unbiased
Your rants fail at all levels!!!
Elements of Truth:
What is the quality of the information
Who is the primary source of information
Is source independent
What is the intent of the information
How was the information obtained
Is the information complete
Can information be independently validated
Is the information unbiased
Your rants fail at all levels!!!
The Ms
That is a very good post. A truth at all levels.
Apr 29, 2021 21:56:53 #
Monfria wrote:
From Business Insider, April 11 br br A GOP congr... (show quote)
Of course he did... from Michigan , told CNN, the Conspiracy Network. Rinos.....
The real issue is some of us can think for ourselves, no one tells us, we see it.... do not believe what “They Say”!!! I know, hard to believe isn’t it..... real people can think.
And for the record there are real conspiracies.... why there is a special charge in law... Title18, Section 371... commonly known as a Klein Conspiracy!!!
Apr 29, 2021 22:47:57 #
The Ms. wrote:
Of course he did... from Michigan , told CNN, the Conspiracy Network. Rinos.....
The real issue is some of us can think for ourselves, no one tells us, we see it.... do not believe what “They Say”!!! I know, hard to believe isn’t it..... real people can think.
And for the record there are real conspiracies.... why there is a special charge in law... Title18, Section 371... commonly known as a Klein Conspiracy!!!
The real issue is some of us can think for ourselves, no one tells us, we see it.... do not believe what “They Say”!!! I know, hard to believe isn’t it..... real people can think.
And for the record there are real conspiracies.... why there is a special charge in law... Title18, Section 371... commonly known as a Klein Conspiracy!!!
“They say”??? It was Trump who tried to justify some of his wildest lies by stating, “A lot of people are saying...”. It was one of his favorite phrases.
Apr 29, 2021 22:57:06 #
Monfria wrote:
“They say”??? It was Trump who tried to justify some of his wildest lies by stating, “A lot of people are saying...”. It was one of his favorite phrases.
Name it.... !!!! Do not believe all of what anyone says.... so you need to give examples.
Apr 29, 2021 23:57:02 #
This from The Washington Post
Politics
‘A lot of people are saying . . . ’: How Trump spreads conspiracies and innuendoes
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump often repeats controversial theories and conspiracies, but distances himself from blame with a few key phrases. (Jenny Starrs/The Washington Post)
By Jenna Johnson
June 13, 2016
Following the country’s most deadly mass shooting, Donald Trump was asked to explain what he meant when he said President Obama either does not understand radicalized Muslim terrorists or “he gets it better than anybody understands.”
“Well,” Trump said on the “Today Show” Monday morning, “there are a lot of people that think maybe he doesn’t want to get it. A lot of people think maybe he doesn’t want to know about it. I happen to think that he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, but there are many people that think maybe he doesn’t want to get it. He doesn’t want to see what’s really happening. And that could be.”
In other words, Trump was not directly saying that he believes the president sympathizes with the terrorist who killed at least 49 people in an Orlando nightclub. He was implying that a lot of people are saying that.
Trump frequently couches his most controversial comments this way, which allows him to share a controversial idea, piece of tabloid gossip or conspiracy theory without technically embracing it. If the comment turns out to be popular, Trump will often drop the distancing qualifier — “people think” or “some say.” If the opposite happens, Trump can claim that he never said the thing he is accused of saying, equating it to retweeting someone else’s thoughts on Twitter.
This is particularly true when it comes to Trump’s comments on Islam. For months, the candidate has portrayed Muslims as the leading threat working against the United States and has routinely suggested in a wink-wink fashion that the president might secretly be a follower.
Trump suggests 'there's something going on' with Obama
Donald Trump rails against the president and warns that Muslims should be banned from entering the U.S., while Hillary Clinton calls for changes to gun laws (Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)
At a rally in New Hampshire in September, a man in the audience loudly declared President Obama a Muslim and “not even an American,” then asked Trump to get rid of Muslim “training camps.”
“You know, a lot of people are saying that, and a lot of people are saying that bad things are happening out there,” Trump responded. “We’re going to look at that and plenty of other things.”
[Donald Trump seems to connect President Obama to Orlando shooting]
Later that month, Trump announced that as president he would kick all Syrian refugees out of the country and not allow any others to enter because they could be a secret terrorist army.
“This could be the ultimate — probably not, but it could be — the ultimate Trojan horse,” Trump said on Fox News in early November, floating the idea without embracing it.
(On Fox News Monday, Trump said that he used to make this suggestion “with a smile” but he is now “starting to think that it can happen because our politicians are so inept and so incapable.”)
When it comes to the Iran nuclear deal, Trump has floated a variety of theories as to why the United States got what he views as such a raw deal. During a campaign rally in South Carolina in December, Trump seemed to accuse the U.S. negotiators of not having the country’s best interests in mind.
“Some people say it’s worse than stupidity. There’s something going on that we don’t know about,” Trump said in Hilton Head. “And you almost think — I’m not saying that, and I’m not a conspiracy person. . . . Half the people in this room are saying it. I’m trying to be — you know, I’m just hoping they’re just stupid people, okay?”
Trump’s they-said-it-not-me tactic is also often used when he’s attacking his rivals or their relatives.
In early January, Trump said that he was not concerned that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) was born in Canada — but that he had heard from many Republicans who were.
“I’d hate to see something like that get in his way, but a lot of people are talking about it, and I know that even some states are looking at it very strongly, the fact that he was born in Canada and he has had a double passport,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post at the time.
[The Fix: Donald Trump’s defiant double down on, well, everything]
As this attack on Cruz stuck — and was echoed by other Republicans — Trump stopped pinning the concern on others and embraced it as his own, even threatening to sue Cruz over his eligibility in mid-February.
In attacking Hillary and Bill Clinton, Trump indirectly raised questions about one of their close friends, Vince Foster, whose suicide in 1993 has long been a focus of far-right conspiracy theorists who allege Clinton involvement.
Politics
‘A lot of people are saying . . . ’: How Trump spreads conspiracies and innuendoes
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump often repeats controversial theories and conspiracies, but distances himself from blame with a few key phrases. (Jenny Starrs/The Washington Post)
By Jenna Johnson
June 13, 2016
Following the country’s most deadly mass shooting, Donald Trump was asked to explain what he meant when he said President Obama either does not understand radicalized Muslim terrorists or “he gets it better than anybody understands.”
“Well,” Trump said on the “Today Show” Monday morning, “there are a lot of people that think maybe he doesn’t want to get it. A lot of people think maybe he doesn’t want to know about it. I happen to think that he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, but there are many people that think maybe he doesn’t want to get it. He doesn’t want to see what’s really happening. And that could be.”
In other words, Trump was not directly saying that he believes the president sympathizes with the terrorist who killed at least 49 people in an Orlando nightclub. He was implying that a lot of people are saying that.
Trump frequently couches his most controversial comments this way, which allows him to share a controversial idea, piece of tabloid gossip or conspiracy theory without technically embracing it. If the comment turns out to be popular, Trump will often drop the distancing qualifier — “people think” or “some say.” If the opposite happens, Trump can claim that he never said the thing he is accused of saying, equating it to retweeting someone else’s thoughts on Twitter.
This is particularly true when it comes to Trump’s comments on Islam. For months, the candidate has portrayed Muslims as the leading threat working against the United States and has routinely suggested in a wink-wink fashion that the president might secretly be a follower.
Trump suggests 'there's something going on' with Obama
Donald Trump rails against the president and warns that Muslims should be banned from entering the U.S., while Hillary Clinton calls for changes to gun laws (Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)
At a rally in New Hampshire in September, a man in the audience loudly declared President Obama a Muslim and “not even an American,” then asked Trump to get rid of Muslim “training camps.”
“You know, a lot of people are saying that, and a lot of people are saying that bad things are happening out there,” Trump responded. “We’re going to look at that and plenty of other things.”
[Donald Trump seems to connect President Obama to Orlando shooting]
Later that month, Trump announced that as president he would kick all Syrian refugees out of the country and not allow any others to enter because they could be a secret terrorist army.
“This could be the ultimate — probably not, but it could be — the ultimate Trojan horse,” Trump said on Fox News in early November, floating the idea without embracing it.
(On Fox News Monday, Trump said that he used to make this suggestion “with a smile” but he is now “starting to think that it can happen because our politicians are so inept and so incapable.”)
When it comes to the Iran nuclear deal, Trump has floated a variety of theories as to why the United States got what he views as such a raw deal. During a campaign rally in South Carolina in December, Trump seemed to accuse the U.S. negotiators of not having the country’s best interests in mind.
“Some people say it’s worse than stupidity. There’s something going on that we don’t know about,” Trump said in Hilton Head. “And you almost think — I’m not saying that, and I’m not a conspiracy person. . . . Half the people in this room are saying it. I’m trying to be — you know, I’m just hoping they’re just stupid people, okay?”
Trump’s they-said-it-not-me tactic is also often used when he’s attacking his rivals or their relatives.
In early January, Trump said that he was not concerned that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) was born in Canada — but that he had heard from many Republicans who were.
“I’d hate to see something like that get in his way, but a lot of people are talking about it, and I know that even some states are looking at it very strongly, the fact that he was born in Canada and he has had a double passport,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post at the time.
[The Fix: Donald Trump’s defiant double down on, well, everything]
As this attack on Cruz stuck — and was echoed by other Republicans — Trump stopped pinning the concern on others and embraced it as his own, even threatening to sue Cruz over his eligibility in mid-February.
In attacking Hillary and Bill Clinton, Trump indirectly raised questions about one of their close friends, Vince Foster, whose suicide in 1993 has long been a focus of far-right conspiracy theorists who allege Clinton involvement.
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Apr 30, 2021 00:12:44 #
proud republican
Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
Monfria wrote:
Methinks Proud Republican is too Proud. More like arrogant.
Methinks Monfria is too funny....
Apr 30, 2021 01:00:37 #
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Apr 30, 2021 01:19:39 #
Monfria wrote:
This from The Washington Post br br Politics br ‘... (show quote)
Monfria,
Thanks for context.... now I get what you are referring to. First consider the source, WP. Trump talks like real people talk, he does not guard his thoughts. He thinks out loud which can cause issues because never can be sure what someone really thinks.... he just throws it out there. I worked with a few people who did this and it made me crazy. People, especially people in government say a lot more behind the scenes then they admit to. As for Obama there were a lot of questions ,because of his background , about his handling of foreign affairs especially the Iran deal..... my opinion was that it didn’t make walking around sense....Iran is NOT our friend. Obama did not see America as good... he was an apologist.... this does not sit well with people... I can give more examples but hope you see that it is not a conspiracy theory. Remember when Obama set the stage like a Greek temple for some big shin dig. Obama pissed off a lot of people. Obama went out of the norm. If you hate Trump, blame Obama. Obama is the reason Trump was elected. A real pushback on all politicians. Trump beat what , 15 Republicans, for the nomination in 2015..... so, hope you see that we are sick of all the politicians lying and acting in their own self interest. Biden lies too, big time!
Apr 30, 2021 04:40:27 #
The Ms. wrote:
Monfria, br Thanks for context.... now I get what ... (show quote)
Sorry Ms. but your basic premise consumes itself when common sense and intelligence comes into play. Nobody I know talks like Trump, because everybody I know would take too much heat for talking like a fool, idiot and racist egotistical pig. Trump has gotten away with it because of his money, position and ability to influence. That does not make it right and that does not make it normal. Seriously, do you have anyone in your life that talks like Trump that you and others around that person don't think they are a total clown.
Nothing Trump did, in the way that he did it, made any kind of walking around sense. He was a reality TV president that didn't give a crap for what was happening as long as he made himself look good.
And yeah, I worked for Uncle Sam my entire adult life before retiring 10 years ago (as you might imagine from the name, in forest fire and emergency management). I could provide you with a thousand instances of how Trump and his minions abused power and corrupted the government. But I seriously doubt it would cause you to even pause for a moment and try to be reasonable in your assessment of truth.
Who's fault is that? If you want to seriously talk about your issues, why bring Obama into the discussion. Yeah I know. You don't have anything that supports your position and is credible so you fall back on the "well what about" argument. Pretty weak Ms.
Can you do any better?
Lets see all of your Biden lies and I'll match them with Trumps and we can see who wins!
Your play dear.
Apr 30, 2021 09:59:59 #
Monfria wrote:
This from The Washington Post br br Politics br ‘... (show quote)
The Washington Post is a proven liar so who can believe anything they print? Who cares??? Reading gibberish isn't worth the time, mine included!
Apr 30, 2021 11:09:59 #
trashbaum wrote:
The Washington Post is a proven liar so who can believe anything they print? Who cares??? Reading gibberish isn't worth the time, mine included!
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How many Pulitzers have you won??
List of prizes won by The Washington Post
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
By award[edit]
• Worth Bingham Prize: 8
1970, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1980, 1986, 2000, 2005
• Missouri Lifestyle Journalism Award for General Excellence, Class V[1]
1985, 1986, 1987,[2] 2006,[3] 2007
• Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting: 8
1968, 1971, 1983, 1989, 1991, 2003, 2004, 2008
• Pulitzer Prize for Criticism: 8
1976, 1977, 1988, 1993, 1997, 2000, 2003, 2006
• Pulitzer Prize for Commentary: 7
1973, 1977, 1987, 1991, 1994, 2003, 2008
• Pulitzer Prize for Public Service: 5
1973, 1999, 2000, 2008, 2014
• Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Reporting: 3
1983, 2002, 2006
• Pulitzer Prize for Explanatory Reporting: 3
1990, 1995, 2006
• Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting: 6
1993, 2002, 2008, 2015, 2016, 2017
• Pulitzer Prize for Editorial Writing: 3
1936, 1970, 1978
• Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography: 2
1975, 2000
• Pulitzer Prize for Telegraphic Reporting (National): 1
1947
• Pulitzer Prize for Breaking News Reporting: 1
2008
• Pulitzer Prize for Beat Reporting: 1
2006
• Pulitzer Prize for Feature Writing: 1
1981 (returned), 2008
• Pulitzer Prize for Editorial Cartooning: 1
1979
• Pulitzer Prize for Spot News Photography: 1
1995
• Peabody Award:1
2010[4]
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