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Jun 1, 2014 00:53:12   #
rumitoid
 
Nothing in nature is totally this or that. Degrees large and small are present in every aspect of life. Nature is not cloned but vibrant with the possibility of change and advancement, mutation and adaption, which demands that each and every individual creature of every species holds the potential of God's infinite diversity. This most certainly includes humans. We may want, beg, or demand black and white in our existence, yet there is none in Creation. And even in the Moral Absolutes some may posit and find certainty, Jesus is less convinced. (But that is another blog).

Every roach, rose, dung beetle, and human are unique. There is not more or less unique. Unique means "one of a kind, incomparable." These distinctions may be extremely fine and of no significant difference, but they exist. Nothing like this particular roach, rose, dung beetle, or human every existed before or will ever exist again.

Sexual orientation is a spectrum. We approve of a strong heterosexual preference, despite its enormous transgressions by that preference, because we see it is as the norm. This is how the person is made. Yet if another person is made differently, they have the choice and not the heterosexual to follow natural preference, for they are acting by--what? What they are attracted to.

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Jun 1, 2014 01:10:42   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
I am quite certain the homosexuals of Sodom and Gomorrah believed this as well.





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Jun 1, 2014 01:20:45   #
Ricktloml
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nothing in nature is totally this or that. Degrees large and small are present in every aspect of life. Nature is not cloned but vibrant with the possibility of change and advancement, mutation and adaption, which demands that each and every individual creature of every species holds the potential of God's infinite diversity. This most certainly includes humans. We may want, beg, or demand black and white in our existence, yet there is none in Creation. And even in the Moral Absolutes some may posit and find certainty, Jesus is less convinced. (But that is another blog).

Every roach, rose, dung beetle, and human are unique. There is not more or less unique. Unique means "one of a kind, incomparable." These distinctions may be extremely fine and of no significant difference, but they exist. Nothing like this particular roach, rose, dung beetle, or human every existed before or will ever exist again.

Sexual orientation is a spectrum. We approve of a strong heterosexual preference, despite its enormous transgressions by that preference, because we see it is as the norm. This is how the person is made. Yet if another person is made differently, they have the choice and not the heterosexual to follow natural preference, for they are acting by--what? What they are attracted to.
Nothing in nature is totally this or that. Degrees... (show quote)


So I guess if you are attracted to children that's just another wonderful aspect of the spectrum, good grief, there is no medical or scientific proof that homosexuals are "born that way", it is a choice, one that the Bible is very specific about, and I choose to accept what God has to say on the subject

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Jun 1, 2014 01:30:04   #
Ricktloml
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nothing in nature is totally this or that. Degrees large and small are present in every aspect of life. Nature is not cloned but vibrant with the possibility of change and advancement, mutation and adaption, which demands that each and every individual creature of every species holds the potential of God's infinite diversity. This most certainly includes humans. We may want, beg, or demand black and white in our existence, yet there is none in Creation. And even in the Moral Absolutes some may posit and find certainty, Jesus is less convinced. (But that is another blog).

Every roach, rose, dung beetle, and human are unique. There is not more or less unique. Unique means "one of a kind, incomparable." These distinctions may be extremely fine and of no significant difference, but they exist. Nothing like this particular roach, rose, dung beetle, or human every existed before or will ever exist again.

Sexual orientation is a spectrum. We approve of a strong heterosexual preference, despite its enormous transgressions by that preference, because we see it is as the norm. This is how the person is made. Yet if another person is made differently, they have the choice and not the heterosexual to follow natural preference, for they are acting by--what? What they are attracted to.
Nothing in nature is totally this or that. Degrees... (show quote)


And really, nothing like this has ever been considered, pretty bold statement, how on earth could you know such a thing? Because there is nothing new under the sun, get over yourself

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Jun 1, 2014 01:45:35   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
Ricktloml wrote:
So I guess if you are attracted to children that's just another wonderful aspect of the spectrum, good grief, there is no medical or scientific proof that homosexuals are "born that way", it is a choice, one that the Bible is very specific about, and I choose to accept what God has to say on the subject







I don't disagree with you about the science. Just wondering if you could explain why five, four, in some cases three year old boys prefer wearing their sisters clothes, and other indicating factors that would cause even the parents to be curious about said child's sexuality? I think we could agree on the scientific studies showing a child of that age has no understanding of sex, let alone sexual preference.

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Jun 1, 2014 04:12:27   #
rumitoid
 
Ricktloml wrote:
So I guess if you are attracted to children that's just another wonderful aspect of the spectrum, good grief, there is no medical or scientific proof that homosexuals are "born that way", it is a choice, one that the Bible is very specific about, and I choose to accept what God has to say on the subject


No one said that about attraction to children; did not put forth the spectrum had anything to do with the preference of a sexual partner but only gender identification. Please read the black parts in my comments.

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Jun 1, 2014 04:14:23   #
rumitoid
 
Ricktloml wrote:
And really, nothing like this has ever been considered, pretty bold statement, how on earth could you know such a thing? Because there is nothing new under the sun, get over yourself


Ok, dispute it. Was the internet new when it arrived? Quantum Physics? Plastic?

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Jun 1, 2014 06:24:08   #
Kay Littrell
 
rumitoid wrote:
... Sexual orientation is a spectrum. We approve of a strong heterosexual preference, despite its enormous transgressions by that preference, because we see it is as the norm....


You are saying that Charles Manson is just a normal person. Then John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer, and Ted Bundy are all just as normal as you are. Now I see where you're coming from. You lost me there for a minute.

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Jun 1, 2014 16:42:47   #
Ricktloml
 
rumitoid wrote:
Ok, dispute it. Was the internet new when it arrived? Quantum Physics? Plastic?


THINGS have been invented throughout history, what people have considered , their thoughts, opinions, desires, depravities well no there is no is nothing new under the sun. But if you wish to dispute the Bible, that is a choice God gave you, go for it

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Jun 2, 2014 00:24:24   #
Kay Littrell
 
Ricktloml wrote:
THINGS have been invented throughout history, what people have considered , their thoughts, opinions, desires, depravities well no there is no is nothing new under the sun....


Leave my God out of it, she didn't invent the rack, the A-Bomb, the Inquisition, Agent Orange, or Homosexuality. All these negatives are human innovations.

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Jun 2, 2014 00:37:25   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
Ricktloml wrote:
So I guess if you are attracted to children that's just another wonderful aspect of the spectrum, good grief, there is no medical or scientific proof that homosexuals are "born that way", it is a choice, one that the Bible is very specific about, and I choose to accept what God has to say on the subject


Ah yes. The Bible. Interesting reference material. I have a copy that was signed by the Author. And a Koran as well.

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Jun 2, 2014 13:05:22   #
Singularity
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Ah yes. The Bible. Interesting reference material. I have a copy that was signed by the Author. And a Koran as well.



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Jun 2, 2014 13:21:25   #
Singularity
 
Ricktloml wrote:
So I guess if you are attracted to children that's just another wonderful aspect of the spectrum, good grief, there is no medical or scientific proof that homosexuals are "born that way", it is a choice, one that the Bible is very specific about, and I choose to accept what God has to say on the subject

Perhaps you are unaware that, according to the current law of the land, even heterosexual missionary style Bible-approved, trade your virgin daughters to a gang raping mob and still be called righteous like LOT in the Bible, types of sex are illegal with nonconsenting people and protected classes of people deemed unable to clearly understand informed consent.

Just as in the case of SLAVERY, we don't have G*d to thank for that. We recognized the immorality of G*D's position and have made it better. Too late for the Amalekite humans and animals, and especially the virgin girls!

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Jun 2, 2014 14:07:13   #
Singularity
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nothing in nature is totally this or that. Degrees large and small are present in every aspect of life. Nature is not cloned but vibrant with the possibility of change and advancement, mutation and adaption, which demands that each and every individual creature of every species holds the potential of God's infinite diversity. This most certainly includes humans. We may want, beg, or demand black and white in our existence, yet there is none in Creation. And even in the Moral Absolutes some may posit and find certainty, Jesus is less convinced. (But that is another blog).

Every roach, rose, dung beetle, and human are unique. There is not more or less unique. Unique means "one of a kind, incomparable." These distinctions may be extremely fine and of no significant difference, but they exist. Nothing like this particular roach, rose, dung beetle, or human every existed before or will ever exist again.

Sexual orientation is a spectrum. We approve of a strong heterosexual preference, despite its enormous transgressions by that preference, because we see it is as the norm. This is how the person is made. Yet if another person is made differently, they have the choice and not the heterosexual to follow natural preference, for they are acting by--what? What they are attracted to.
Nothing in nature is totally this or that. Degrees... (show quote)

How exactly is a person whose genotype is XXY or XYY to determine what their g*d given gender orientation and sexual preference is to be?

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Jun 2, 2014 17:11:35   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
Woo! Hoo! Thanks Singularity. I love it!! (Referring to the "Circular Logic poster above. I did the quote reply but attachments must not come with it.)

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