trashbaum

Judicial systems around the world are immaterial, and has nothing to do with the death penalty as it exist today. Man's foolish laws are that, just foolish laws. The beginning of the death penalty was honest and deserved. False religion of any sorts is not an example worth considering.

RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit

If he had not been crucified he would not be your Jesus.

trashbaum

Jesus the Son of God, was manifest as a human for that one purpose. He would be put to death , innocent of any wrong doing. A sacrifice of his life, to buy back that which was lost, everlasting life. He was sentenced to death and murdered by the Jews. Now Humans have a chance to live forever, those who live by the word of God. Not those who just read it but those who live by it.

SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now

No.
You’re welcome :)

Iliamna1

Jesus was murdered by BOTH Gentiles and Jews He was condemned under the Jewish laws with the use of false witnesses but he was NAILED to the cross by Gentiles Roman soldiers. Everyone was involved. Please don't say Jews murdered Jesus. We all did. He could have called an army of angels to stop it, but He went to the cross obediently, knowing the sins of every person (past, present and future) would be poured out on Him and He would die.
How's that for love?
And according to the Scriptures, He rose on the third day.

trashbaum

The first man Adam was sentenced to death for a simple act of disobedience, and we are continuing that sentence even to this day. The death penalty is for wrong doing, which makes that person subject to being sentenced to death to pay for his crime. Murdering someone is a capitol offense, which subject's that person to penalty of death.

trashbaum

Romans carried out the sentence of death, they had nothing to do with condemnation of Jesus. He was sentenced to death by the Jews and I am sorry if that offends you.

Iliamna1

I'm not offended. Yes, He was condemned under Jewish Law, but that offense was upheld under Pontius Pilate, a Gentile, although Pontius could find no harm in Jesus and so an alternative person (Barabas) to crucify was offered. We know how that turned out as the crowd wanted Jesus to be crucified. Pilate washed his hands and turned the judgement over to the crowd and soldiers. The Romans took over from that point and Roman soldiers nailed Him to the cross. An interesting anecdote to Pontius Pilate is that he spent his remaining years on the coast and was continually washing his hands. He could never wash innocent blood off his hands.
It's essential to understand it was under Jewish law He was condemned as up to that time, the Jewish people had been the trustees of the Oracles of God (the Old Testament) but had failed to share their knowledge of God with the world (for the most part). Gentiles were guilty of sin as their consciences knew the difference between right and wrong (sin), but gave in to the crowed.
Again, I have to say, EVERYONE was involved, Jews and Gentiles.
Thankfully, Jews and Gentiles who understand that their sins are forgiven through Christ, are a NEW people and are now become neither Jew nor Gentile, but equal citizens of an inheritance through Christ.

Paul says this best in Ephesians 2: 11 Therefore remember that previously you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision” which is performed in the flesh by human hands, 12 remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the people of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who previously were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, 15 by abolishing in His flesh the hostility, which is the Law composed of commandments expressed in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two one new person, in this way establishing peace; 16 and that He might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the hostility. 17 And He came and preached peace to you who were far away, and peace to those who were near; 18 for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now

My friend, I find you and I are in total agreement. My comment to rascal was “no” because he has no clue of the meaning on the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and Saviour.

trashbaum

Far fewer than expected have no clue to the meaning of the death and resurrection of Christ. Really sad!

SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now

It is truly sad. I always hear “God is love, He would never send anyone to hell”, little do they know.
We live between two eternities and this life is just a vapor in the middle, but we can decide where we want to spend the next one. Like you, I have made my decision and am looking forward to “going home”. 🙏