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May 30, 2014 13:44:42   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
I knew I could count on you Kevyn, your very Bonaparte...


I think there is a strong chance that Kevyn is one of the leaners who believes that Obama is our god, not the God we believe in.

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May 30, 2014 13:47:13   #
Patty
 
They haven't figured out when someone has to completely lie about something that it isn't going to be good for anyone but them.
oldroy wrote:
I think there is a strong chance that Kevyn is one of the leaners who believes that Obama is our god, not the God we believe in.

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May 30, 2014 14:07:27   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
oldroy wrote:
I think there is a strong chance that Kevyn is one of the leaners who believes that Obama is our god, not the God we believe in.


Yes Sir, the unholy trinity obama, reid, pelosi...eric holder fits in somewhere....

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May 30, 2014 14:10:15   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Patty wrote:
They haven't figured out when someone has to completely lie about something that it isn't going to be good for anyone but them.


I may add, those lies will harm the many supporters of the one lying.

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May 30, 2014 15:49:56   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Yes Sir, the unholy trinity obama, reid, pelosi...eric holder fits in somewhere....


That is quite a group you mentioned there.

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May 30, 2014 16:01:56   #
wb505580
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Excellent point, and the speaker of the house had so many fooled.


people like him, mccain and that one from kentucky along with many others need to be replaced

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May 30, 2014 16:44:22   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
wb505580 wrote:
people like him, mccain and that one from kentucky along with many others need to be replaced


I believed Mc Caine would have given his heart and soul to our country, over the last few years my views have sadly changed, with strong disappointment. Still would have been a world apart from what we have now.

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May 30, 2014 16:51:28   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
oldroy wrote:
That is quite a group you mentioned there.


Opps, I missed Kerry. Had he only understood his self occupation with Israel and the middle east peace deal, was unattainable given his absolute ignorance in Israel and Palestinian history. Had he read the Bible old testament, and Koran. Guess his aspiration for the noble peace prize, will be displayed on someone else.

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May 30, 2014 16:55:06   #
wb505580
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Opps, I missed Kerry. Had he only understood his self occupation with Israel and the middle east peace deal, was unattainable given his absolute ignorance in Israel and Palestinian history. Had he read the Bible old testament, and Koran. Guess his aspiration for the noble peace prize, will be displayed on someone else.


who else would have appointed hanoi john but the the head commiecrat in charge of the muslim brotherhood

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May 30, 2014 17:25:08   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
wb505580 wrote:
who else would have appointed hanoi john but the the head commiecrat in charge of the muslim brotherhood


Shocking, and disturbing the levels of deception from both parties. When one loses trust and integrity, freedom and liberties begin to become lost also.

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May 30, 2014 23:00:26   #
wb505580
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Shocking, and disturbing the levels of deception from both parties. When one loses trust and integrity, freedom and liberties begin to become lost also.


sounds a lot like what our founders said. a country founded by highly intelligent men and now run by morons

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May 30, 2014 23:07:59   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
There are many watchman on the wall, warning what is very, very soon coming to your city, your America. In spite of the mountain of evidence, facts and documentation there seems to be a majority of liberals that dismiss the horrors the president is reining down on America. every single American will be affected, this post is just a small portion of the deceptions Obama has in store.


The occupant of the Oval Office has authorized military force against American citizens in Department of Defense Directive 3025.18, issued on December 29, 2010. The directive assumes presidential authority for the use of force "to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances" and to give civil authorities "Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality. This support includes loans of arms; vessels or aircraft; or ammunition." Bill Gertz of The Washington Times, whose investigative efforts uncovered the edict, reports that the directive coincides with a buildup of military units within non-security-related federal agencies. A threat to civil liberty? Read on.



The directive states that lethal force may be used against citizens when: "(1) Such activities are necessary to prevent significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property and are necessary to restore governmental function and public order; or, (2) When duly constituted Federal, State, or local authorities are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for Federal property or Federal governmental functions. Federal action, including the use of Federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the Federal property or functions." This begs the question: Is the White House "undermining civil liberties under the guise of counterterrorism and counter narcotics efforts"?



The Daily Jot has been documenting stories of federal agencies, such as the IRS, buying ammunition and weapons. Gertz confirms: "Other agencies with SWAT teams reportedly include the Department of Agriculture, the Railroad Retirement Board, the Tennessee Valley Authority, the Office of Personnel Management, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the US Fish and Wildlife Service and the Education Department. The militarization of federal agencies, under little-known statues that permit deputization of security officials, comes as the White House has launched verbal attacks on private citizens' ownership of firearms despite the fact that most gun owners are law-abiding citizens."



The military buildup of non-military federal agencies combined with the White House push for disarming and vilifying citizens is too systematic to be coincidence. From 2009 to 2012, the Department of Homeland Security issued three reports, each profiling gun-owning Christian conservatives as possible terrorists and right-wing extremists. Put two and two together and you have a government granting itself authority to use lethal force on civilians "to protect federal property or functions." The federal government does not own property, the people do. This White House is using your tax dollars to build a tyranny against you. This is criminal and unjust. As Peter and the Apostles said in Acts 5:29, "We ought to obey God rather than men." All law originates from God. An unjust law is no law at all. This directive is not law, and it is unjust.



Read the DOD Directive here:



http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/302518p.pdf
There are many watchman on the wall, warning what ... (show quote)


Precisely the REASON the Second Amendment was included into the BILL OF RIGHTS restricting government tyranny







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May 30, 2014 23:10:50   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
wb505580 wrote:
sounds a lot like what our founders said. a country founded by highly intelligent men and now run by morons



That is a very good statement! The deep thinkers are a thing of history!!!

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May 31, 2014 05:56:50   #
Patty
 
We will need our guns to stop them from destroying the human race.
"Steven Starr

Nuclear war has no winner. Beginning in 2006, several of the world’s leading climatologists (at Rutgers, UCLA, John Hopkins University, and the University of Colorado-Boulder) published a series of studies that evaluated the long-term environmental consequences of a nuclear war, including baseline scenarios fought with merely 1% of the explosive power in the US and/or Russian launch-ready nuclear arsenals. They concluded that the consequences of even a “small” nuclear war would include catastrophic disruptions of global climate[i] and massive destruction of Earth’s protective ozone layer[ii]. These and more recent studies predict that global agriculture would be so negatively affected by such a war, a global famine would result, which would cause up to 2 billion people to starve to death. [iii]

These peer-reviewed studies – which were analyzed by the best scientists in the world and found to be without error – also predict that a war fought with less than half of US or Russian strategic nuclear weapons would destroy the human race.[iv] In other words, a US-Russian nuclear war would create such extreme long-term damage to the global environment that it would leave the Earth uninhabitable for humans and most animal forms of life.

A recent article in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, “Self-assured destruction: The climate impacts of nuclear war”,[v] begins by stating:

“A nuclear war between Russia and the United States, even after the arsenal reductions planned under New START, could produce a nuclear winter. Hence, an attack by either side could be suicidal, resulting in self-assured destruction.”

In 2009, I wrote an article[vi] for the International Commission on Nuclear Non-proliferation and Disarmament that summarizes the findings of these studies. It explains that nuclear firestorms would produce millions of tons of smoke, which would rise above cloud level and form a global stratospheric smoke layer that would rapidly encircle the Earth. The smoke layer would remain for at least a decade, and it would act to destroy the protective ozone layer (vastly increasing the UV-B reaching Earth[vii]) as well as block warming sunlight, thus creating Ice Age weather conditions that would last 10 years or longer.

Following a US-Russian nuclear war, temperatures in the central US and Eurasia would fall below freezing every day for one to three years; the intense cold would completely eliminate growing seasons for a decade or longer. No crops could be grown, leading to a famine that would kill most humans and large animal populations.

Electromagnetic pulse from high-altitude nuclear detonations would destroy the integrated circuits in all modern electronic devices[viii], including those in commercial nuclear power plants. Every nuclear reactor would almost instantly meltdown; every nuclear spent fuel pool (which contain many times more radioactivity than found in the reactors) would boil-off, releasing vast amounts of long-lived radioactivity. The fallout would make most of the US and Europe uninhabitable. Of course, the survivors of the nuclear war would be starving to death anyway.

Once nuclear weapons were introduced into a US-Russian conflict, there would be little chance that a nuclear holocaust could be avoided. Theories of “limited nuclear war” and “nuclear de-escalation” are unrealistic.[ix] In 2010 the Bush administration modified US strategic doctrine from a retaliatory role to permit preemptive nuclear attack, and Counterforce doctrine[x] – used by both the US and Russian military – emphasizes the need for preemptive strikes once nuclear war begins. Both sides would be under immense pressure to launch a preemptive nuclear first-strike once military hostilities had commenced, especially if nuclear weapons had already been used on the battlefield.

Both the US and Russia each have 400 to 500 launch-ready ballistic missiles armed with a total of at least 1800 strategic nuclear warheads,[xi] which can be launched with only a few minutes warning.[xii] Both the US and Russian Presidents are accompanied 24/7 by military officers carrying a “nuclear briefcase”, which allows them to transmit the permission order to launch in a matter of seconds.

Yet top political leaders and policymakers of both the US and Russia seem to be unaware that their launch-ready nuclear weapons represent a self-destruct mechanism for the human race. For example, in 2010, I was able to publicly question the chief negotiators of the New START treaty, Russian Ambassador Anatoly Antonov and (then) US Assistant Secretary of State, Rose Gottemoeller, during their joint briefing at the UN (during the Non-Proliferation Treaty Review Conference). I asked them if they were familiar with the recent peer-reviewed studies that predicted the detonation of less than 1% of the explosive power contained in the operational and deployed U.S. and Russian nuclear forces would cause catastrophic changes in the global climate, and that a nuclear war fought with their strategic nuclear weapons would kill most people on Earth. They both answered “no.”

More recently, on April 20, 2014, I asked the same question and received the same answer from the US officials sent to brief representatives of the NGOS at the Non-Proliferation Treaty Preparatory Committee meeting at the UN. None of the US officials at the briefing were aware of the studies. Those present included top officials of the National Security Council.

It is frightening that President Obama and his administration appear unaware that the world’s leading scientists have for years predicted that a nuclear war fought with the US and/or Russian strategic nuclear arsenal means the end of human history. Do they not know of the existential threat these arsenals pose to the human race . . . or do they choose to remain silent because this fact doesn’t fit into their official narratives? We hear only about terrorist threats that could destroy a city with an atomic bomb, while the threat of human extinction from nuclear war is never mentioned – even when the US and Russia are each running huge nuclear war games in preparation for a US-Russian war.

Even more frightening is the fact that the neocons running US foreign policy believe that the US has “nuclear primacy” over Russia; that is, the US could successfully launch a nuclear sneak attack against Russian (and Chinese) nuclear forces and completely destroy them. This theory was articulated in 2006 in “The Rise of U.S. Nuclear Primacy”, which was published in Foreign Affairs by the Council on Foreign Relations.[xiii] By concluding that the Russians and Chinese would be unable to retaliate, or if some small part of their forces remained, would not risk a second US attack by retaliating, the article invites nuclear war.

Colonel Valery Yarynich (who was in charge of security of the Soviet/Russian nuclear command and control systems for 7 years) asked me to help him write a rebuttal, which was titled “Nuclear Primacy is a Fallacy”.[xiv] Colonel Yarynich, who was on the Soviet General Staff and did war planning for the USSR, concluded that the “Primacy” article used faulty methodology and erroneous assumptions, thus invalidating its conclusions. My contribution lay in my knowledge of the recently published (in 2006) studies, which predicted even a “successful” nuclear first-strike, which destroyed 100% of the opposing sides nuclear weapons, would cause the citizens of the side that “won” the nuclear war to perish from nuclear famine, just as would the rest of humanity.

Although the nuclear primacy article created quite a backlash in Russia, leading to a public speech by the Russian Foreign Minister, the story was essentially not covered in the US press. We were unable to get our rebuttal published by US media. The question remains as to whether the US nuclear primacy asserted in the article has been accepted as a fact by the US political and military establishment. Such acceptance would explain the recklessness of US policy toward Russia and China.

Thus we find ourselves in a situation in which those who are in charge of our nuclear arsenal seem not to understand that they can end human history if they choose to push the button. Most of the American public also remains completely unaware of this deadly threat. The uninformed are leading the uninformed toward the abyss of extinction.

US public schools have not taught students about nuclear weapons for more than 20 years. The last time nuclear war was discussed or debated in a US Presidential election was sometime in the last century. Thus, most people do not know that a single strategic nuclear weapon can easily ignite a massive firestorm over 100 square miles, and that the US and Russia each have many thousands of these weapons ready for immediate use.

Meanwhile, neoconservative ideology has kept the US at war during the entire 21st century. It has led to the expansion of US/NATO forces to the very borders of Russia, a huge mistake that has consequently revived the Cold War. A hallmark of neconservatism is that America is the “indispensable nation”, as evidenced by the neoconservative belief in “American exceptionalism”, which essentially asserts that Americans are superior to all other peoples, that American interests and values should reign supreme in the world.

At his West Point speech on May 28, President Obama said, “I believe in American exceptionalism with every fiber of my being.” Obama stated his bottom line is that “America must always lead on the world stage,” and “the backbone of that leadership always will be the military.” American exceptionalism based on might, not diplomacy, on hard power, not soft, is precisely the hubris and arrogance that could lead to the termination of human life. Washington’s determination to prevent the rise of Russia and China, as set out in the Brzezinski and Wolfowitz doctrines, is a recipe for nuclear war.

The need is dire for the president of the US, Russia, or China to state in a highly public forum that the existence of nuclear weapons creates the possibility of their use and that their use in war would likely mean human extinction. As nuclear war has no winners, the weapons should be banned and destroyed before they destroy all of us.

Steven Starr is the Senior Scientist for Physicians for Social Responsibility (www.psr.org) and Director of the Clinical Laboratory Science Program at the University of Missouri. Starr has published in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists and the Strategic Arms Reduction (STAR) website of the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology. He has a website on the environmental consequences of nuclear war (www.nucleardarkness.org )."

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May 31, 2014 06:46:08   #
ilenefree
 
I'm not sure you have your facts straight. The anarchist's are the many organizations who are buying up guns and anything else they can to, perhaps as they would put it, to fight the government and innocent civilians when they believe they are losing power.

Just look at the way these Anarchists showed up to help Cliven Bundy keep "his" land and cattle. As far as I know, they are reported to still be there with their AK47's, stopping people going to and from work and demanding to see their identity papers, as if they were the law. They are not the law. They are people like you, just waiting for something to happen so you can say "I told you so, the government started it and now we have a good reason to start killing anybody who gets in our way".

I am more worried about the hundreds of organizations like these, all over the nation, out in the wilderness, storing up guns and ammo and who knows what else, than I am of President Obama.

You could be right, you could be wrong, or I could be right or wrong. Who cares? My only problem with what you are saying is that you are reporting things without any proof and making people believe they are in more danger than truly exists. You are scaring people so they feel the need to get more guns for themselves and join Anarchist groups. Or start an Anarchist group of their own.

Show me the proof.

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