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Apr 9, 2021 16:48:22   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
ChJoe wrote:
" the new laws contain all sorts of restrictions all intended to limit voting by the other side."

Like what?


Are you always this dense or is this pretend day to piss off the liberals???

the laws after the gutting of the voting rights act, have limited the time, location, and every possible opportunity for the non-republicans to vote.. not just voter ID laws written otherwise, but also every conceivable way for obtaining the IDs, which IDs can be used and as was pointed out, timing of the placement of the laws themselves..

Any stray law will do if it will stop the vote of a democrat...
Any stray law will do if it will stop the vote of ...

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Apr 9, 2021 16:49:14   #
JohnCo
 
permafrost wrote:
Geez, PR,,, try and contain yourself..

I will rephrase your questions to match the real world we life in..

#1, No, it is not the picture ID which is raciest.. it is how the law is written the the required paper work is made difficult to obtain by the targeted voting group.. in this case Democrat's.. These laws come with a network of obstruction, from the type of ID required, how that ID must be obtained , the location and open time of polling locations.. none of the laws I have looked at are a single issue law, they all include more obstruction . the very obvious purpose and only purpose is to keep member of our society from voting.. only in that way can Republicans ever win an election .. stop the vote, stop the rights of "those" people..

Get the hell back in the issue, the founders while flawed, did intend for all to have the right to vote , while the definition of who the voter could be was not inclusive, in todays world, the intent of the nation that that all get to vote, even women and minorities,, the republicans only want limited voting because they only work for a small part of our population..

#2, no, not by a long shot..
Geez, PR,,, try and contain yourself.. br br I w... (show quote)


Well written and starting out funny.

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Apr 9, 2021 16:53:19   #
Army
 
Peewee wrote:
If they own it, why would they have to pay anyone? I think your common sense container has sprung a leak. Maybe you deleted it when you made room for all that critical racist propaganda, you adore? Just based on population statistics, conservatives have more children than liberals, and in twenty short years, your lefty opinions won't matter. Not my fault, you are the ones terminating you're children, not us. You watch too much Tell-A-Vision, select a Channel, and become Programmed. Ewe, seem to be the gullible one, you're depopulating your people and political power. Soros and Gates would be so proud of you, they don't even have to jab you. Your self-destructing on your own. The Amish are beating everyone in having children, and they grow their own non-GMO food, very healthy people, and when they need something built or move the community comes together and get it done. Unity, teamwork, and faith, a beautiful way to live.
If they own it, why would they have to pay anyone?... (show quote)


Yes simple life & hard work they do go to regular doctors though as we see Doctors now taking sides on politics & vaccine an writing it down keeping track .

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Apr 9, 2021 16:54:01   #
JohnCo
 
manning5 wrote:
Obstruction of the easy ability to obtain a free picture ID is simply wrong if it exists. The voter is obliged to get one well in advance of the actual vote, and the issuing authority must do their job without attempting to obstruct the process. It should be a simple matter to do away with any such obstructing rules by fiat. No Republican I know is involved in such obstruction.


Brian Kemp, when he was Secr. of State of Georgia.

Kris Kobach, Kansas.

Both are Republicans and both have obstructed voting, though perhaps not by "rules".

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Apr 9, 2021 16:54:20   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
JohnCo wrote:
Well written and starting out funny.


Stop whinging!

https://dds.georgia.gov/voter-id

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Apr 9, 2021 17:14:14   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
JohnCo wrote:
Proper planning by local election boards would be important, of course.

You say, "democrat run cities". I do not think these long lines nor other impediments to voters are caused by democrats. I believe most of them are created by Republican-led state legislatures.

I wonder whether anyone here would like to see examples about that. I already posted about Wisconsin. Georgia might have some interesting examples.


Minnesota tells all......Klobucher, Ventura, Franken oh my!
MAGA!

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Apr 9, 2021 17:47:06   #
Abel
 
proud republican wrote:
Question 1 Do you think asking for picture ID is racist?

Question 2 Do you think black people so stupid they can't find picture ID?


IMHO: My answer to 1 is no. My answer to 2 is maybe, but it would still be maybe for any other race. Many, many people simply cannot, or will not, read. The big argument the left always uses is that these laws "suppress" voters. Most sheeple take that to mean "suppress all voters." However, "all voters" is a very large term. Voter ID DOES suppress voters, but the voters it suppresses is "illegal or unqualified" voters; not honest, legal and registered voters. The Progressives don't like Voter ID because it makes it harder for them to cheat. November 3, 2020, is a PRIME example of what I just said.

My personal thoughts are that the only people that should be allowed to vote, even with a Voter Photo ID, are those who can prove they are legal, properly registered, either working, retired, or physically handicapped and can't work. If they have a valid and reasonable commitment they may vote absentee. Mail-in balloting should be strictly prohibited without absolute proof of a disability that prevents one from getting to the polls, such as being in the hospital in an iron lung; a certified officer of the court could go to them and obtain their ballot.

Voting is a privilege, and a duty, for those who actually love this country and have skin in the game, not the Communist political freeloaders who do nothing but bitch about the country they say they hate and cause turmoil, hate and discontent to disunite it. They should move to China or Russia where people think like they do.

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Apr 9, 2021 18:08:29   #
Carol Kelly
 
microphor wrote:
What makes asking for ID at the voting sites Racist, but not at other required sites: doctors, liquor store, military, flying, cruising, crossing into other countries, banking, cashing a check, buying a house, buying cigarettes, adopting a pet, getting credit card, renting apartments, buying house ..........


You are so right on!

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Apr 9, 2021 18:09:41   #
Carol Kelly
 
Abel wrote:
IMHO: My answer to 1 is no. My answer to 2 is maybe, but it would still be maybe for any other race. Many, many people simply cannot, or will not, read. The big argument the left always uses is that these laws "suppress" voters. Most sheeple take that to mean "suppress all voters." However, "all voters" is a very large term. Voter ID DOES suppress voters, but the voters it suppresses is "illegal or unqualified" voters; not honest, legal and registered voters. The Progressives don't like Voter ID because it makes it harder for them to cheat. November 3, 2020, is a PRIME example of what I just said.

My personal thoughts are that the only people that should be allowed to vote, even with a Voter Photo ID, are those who can prove they are legal, properly registered, either working, retired, or physically handicapped and can't work. If they have a valid and reasonable commitment they may vote absentee. Mail-in balloting should be strictly prohibited without absolute proof of a disability that prevents one from getting to the polls, such as being in the hospital in an iron lung; a certified officer of the court could go to them and obtain their ballot.

Voting is a privilege, and a duty, for those who actually love this country and have skin in the game, not the Communist political freeloaders who do nothing but bitch about the country they say they hate and cause turmoil, hate and discontent to disunite it. They should move to China or Russia where people think like they do.
IMHO: My answer to 1 is no. My answer to 2 is mayb... (show quote)


Mail in ballots should be treated as illegal, which they are!

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Apr 9, 2021 18:10:45   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
JohnCo wrote:
Well written and starting out funny.


About as funny as a dump in a spacesuit.
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Apr 9, 2021 18:17:44   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
You are so right on!


Interesting that the looney left lets the subject matter drift, after their lame arguments are shot down. Seems as if they have moved off the id thing a bit and are now complaining more about poll hours, maii-in and staffing, not to mention electioneering inside the designated distance at the polls.

Largely this is all a smoke screen to keep us occupied in the weeds while they silence free speech, impinge on our 2nd amendment rights and pass trillion dollar programs with bogus names such as, covid relief, infrastructure., taxing all of us .......

This crap will reverse itself.....soon.

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Apr 9, 2021 18:21:36   #
PeterS
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Some things never change, Pete. Such as your twisting of facts to make them seem to back your position. Nobody is trying to make voting a punishment. That's ridiculous. They are simply trying to keep cheaters from further cheating, which they demonstrably will do if given the opportunity. Of course people haven't been prevented from eating or drinking in lines. The goal is to prevent partisan electioneering from taking place within a certain distance from the polls. The water can be provided, just not by people wearing MAGA hats or BLM shirts. Those distances have been in effect for as long as I have been voting which is longer than you have. Patriots don't want ANYBODY to kneel during the National Anthem, black, white or any race. They have always tried to maintain that Americans honor our flag. Remember years ago when people wielding "Black Power' shirts tried to intimidate voters in various cities. There's more proof of voter fraud than we could cover in 500 pages but leftists just continue to turn their heads and deny, deny, deny. It's the old saying that if a lie is repeated often enough it will be believed by more and more people.
Some things never change, Pete. Such as your twis... (show quote)

Yeah, and not a single court, even the Conservative-led Supreme court, would hear your evidence because just as with Trump's cries of voter fraud were as false as every made-up piece of evidence you tried to submit to a court. Every change made, has been made to make voting harder for minorities. You cons seem to feel that the only way you can win is if you can keep democrats from voting. Well, that just makes people want to vote even more, and we're going to in numbers that will dwarf 2020.

And you need to understand that patriots don't turn the other way when a MAGA asshole walks through the Capitol waving the stars and bars. WTF is wrong with you people, don't you know what the stars and bars represent? That's treason to carry them through the Capitol and even more treasonous to ignore the mob that carried them. Don't speak of patriotism when you clearly don't know a thing about it!

And are you projecting here? Look at the 2016 election and the lies about voter fraud that Trump tried to spread then look at the 2020 election and Trump is still spreading the very same lies. And the thing is Trump doesn't have to repeat the lie for you people to believe it. You are the most gullible people in this country and you believe anything and everything that your politicians tell you especially if Democrats are at the heart of the accusation.

Did you ever wonder how it is we democrats can cheat with impunity yet we don't win every election we are involved in? How are there two republican senators in Texas and when the last time we had a Democratic governor? If we were to turn that single state you conservatives would never win a nationwide election again. So if we are so adept at cheating how is it we haven't turned Texas blue? You are fed lie after lie after lie after lie and it never once occurs to you that you are being played.

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Apr 9, 2021 18:44:46   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
proud republican wrote:
Question 1 Do you think asking for picture ID is racist?

Question 2 Do you think black people so stupid they can't find picture ID?


1. Requiring photo ID is not racist. Making it hard to get photo ID is.
2. That is condescending

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Apr 9, 2021 18:48:46   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
RascalRiley wrote:
1. Requiring photo ID is not racist. Making it hard to get photo ID is.
2. That is condescending


Again,its not hard to get!

https://dds.georgia.gov/voter-id

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Apr 9, 2021 19:55:31   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Hug wrote:
Unattended drop boxes promote fraud.


Unused common sense promotes stupid posts.

The ballots all are verified.

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