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Feb 6, 2021 03:21:36   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
With all of the multiple executive orders that Biden has signed, is it really your opinions that forcing thousands upon thousands out of work with a flip of a pen a good thing? Or for that matter the major increase of costs for those that need insulin, or the reopening of our boarders to illegal immigrants, or perhaps most importantly to our National Security to allow China to be allowed into our grid a good thing? These are things that have recently occurred with Bidens executive orders so please dont even try and excuse these actions. Just try and give your own reasons why any of this is good for The United States of America. Just logical rationale for why any of this is whats best for this country.
Mike

https://youtu.be/Zqi9WuKtlo4

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Feb 6, 2021 03:48:57   #
Kevyn
 
2bltap wrote:
With all of the multiple executive orders that Biden has signed, is it really your opinions that forcing thousands upon thousands out of work with a flip of a pen a good thing? Or for that matter the major increase of costs for those that need insulin, or the reopening of our boarders to illegal immigrants, or perhaps most importantly to our National Security to allow China to be allowed into our grid a good thing? These are things that have recently occurred with Bidens executive orders so please dont even try and excuse these actions. Just try and give your own reasons why any of this is good for The United States of America. Just logical rationale for why any of this is whats best for this country.
Mike

https://youtu.be/Zqi9WuKtlo4
With all of the multiple executive orders that Bid... (show quote)


I am assuming the jobs you speak of are the canceled pipeline. The completed pipeline would employ about 80 people permanently not thousands. The temporary construction workers will move to other sectors and infrastructure so it is a wash. Our borders are not re-opened they haven’t been since the turn of the century. All he has done is allow refugees the due process anyone in this nation deserves. The “allowing China into our grid” claim is perplexing at best, please reference the particular EO you are talking about. The rationale for this is simple a cleaner less polluted nation is obviously better. Even animals know you don’t crap in your own nest. The humane and just treatment of refugees is hardly detrimental to anyone. We are after all a nation of immigrants, this is the source of our strength and diversity. Joe Biden is doing exactly what the American people elected him to do. Clean up the damage done by the Cheeto Faced Shitgibbon and getting our nation back on track.

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Feb 6, 2021 04:14:07   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
Kevyn wrote:
I am assuming the jobs you speak of are the canceled pipeline. The completed pipeline would employ about 80 people permanently not thousands. The temporary construction workers will move to other sectors and infrastructure so it is a wash. Our borders are not re-opened they haven’t been since the turn of the century. All he has done is allow refugees the due process anyone in this nation deserves. The “allowing China into our grid” claim is perplexing at best, please reference the particular EO you are talking about. The rationale for this is simple a cleaner less polluted nation is obviously better. Even animals know you don’t crap in your own nest. The humane and just treatment of refugees is hardly detrimental to anyone. We are after all a nation of immigrants, this is the source of our strength and diversity. Joe Biden is doing exactly what the American people elected him to do. Clean up the damage done by the Cheeto Faced Shitgibbon and getting our nation back on track.
I am assuming the jobs you speak of are the cancel... (show quote)


Im sorry Kevyn but the American people did NOT vote for any of this!! If they really wanted this initially thats the reason they now regreting their choice as most polls are now reporting.

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Feb 6, 2021 04:50:10   #
Kevyn
 
2bltap wrote:
Im sorry Kevyn but the American people did NOT vote for any of this!! If they really wanted this initially thats the reason they now regreting their choice as most polls are now reporting.


Actually Biden’s current approval rating is higher than Trumps was at any time during his presidency. A simple google search will show you that fact.

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Feb 6, 2021 05:27:01   #
kittykatt
 
Kevyn wrote:
Actually Biden’s current approval rating is higher than Trumps was at any time during his presidency. A simple google search will show you that fact.


But if you think about who is reporting both ratings -- the MSM. If biden's approval rating is ACTUALLY higher than Trumps was, then there is something seriously wrong with the American people. And if it is true, then the American people who voted for him are getting exactly what they deserve: loss of jobs, higher utility costs, fewer freedoms, less safety, more competition for jobs due to illegals coming into this country and those already in this country getting amnesty, more possibility of Islamic attacks along the lines of what is happening in Europe and around the world on a daily basis (check out JihadWatch) and 9/11 style attacks. More occupied cities and then states due to the actions of Antifa and BLM which has nothing to do with black lives and has more to do with subversive anti-American activities on the part of the founders of BLM. Time will tell exactly what is going to happen in this country.

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Feb 6, 2021 05:30:40   #
kittykatt
 
2bltap wrote:
Im sorry Kevyn but the American people did NOT vote for any of this!! If they really wanted this initially thats the reason they now regreting their choice as most polls are now reporting.


In a way, yes those who voted for biden did vote for what is happening right now. During one of the debates biden indicated that he would do exactly what he has already done.

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Feb 6, 2021 07:16:42   #
Liberty Tree
 
kittykatt wrote:
But if you think about who is reporting both ratings -- the MSM. If biden's approval rating is ACTUALLY higher than Trumps was, then there is something seriously wrong with the American people. And if it is true, then the American people who voted for him are getting exactly what they deserve: loss of jobs, higher utility costs, fewer freedoms, less safety, more competition for jobs due to illegals coming into this country and those already in this country getting amnesty, more possibility of Islamic attacks along the lines of what is happening in Europe and around the world on a daily basis (check out JihadWatch) and 9/11 style attacks. More occupied cities and then states due to the actions of Antifa and BLM which has nothing to do with black lives and has more to do with subversive anti-American activities on the part of the founders of BLM. Time will tell exactly what is going to happen in this country.
But if you think about who is reporting both ratin... (show quote)


A serious examination will show how Biden's approval numbers are being grossly exaggerated by under polling Republicans.

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Feb 6, 2021 15:24:27   #
JohnCo
 
Kevyn wrote:
I am assuming the jobs you speak of are the canceled pipeline. The completed pipeline would employ about 80 people permanently not thousands. The temporary construction workers will move to other sectors and infrastructure so it is a wash. Our borders are not re-opened they haven’t been since the turn of the century. All he has done is allow refugees the due process anyone in this nation deserves. The “allowing China into our grid” claim is perplexing at best, please reference the particular EO you are talking about. The rationale for this is simple a cleaner less polluted nation is obviously better. Even animals know you don’t crap in your own nest. The humane and just treatment of refugees is hardly detrimental to anyone. We are after all a nation of immigrants, this is the source of our strength and diversity. Joe Biden is doing exactly what the American people elected him to do. Clean up the damage done by the Cheeto Faced Shitgibbon and getting our nation back on track.
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I agree with you.

And:

There are plenty of jobs that need to be done. They just aren't all the same as all the old jobs. Covid-19 contact tracing's a job. Making medical equipment's a job. Clean energy industries have jobs. Making affordable housing is jobs. Maybe they aren't the kinds of jobs that make overnight, fly-by-night, tax-evading, responsibility-evading millionaires and billionaires; but they are jobs that are worthwhile and produce good net effects for both the workers and society generally.

Polluting industries simply need to be assessed and accountable for their net effects. Many jobs in polluting industries can and should be changed into jobs in less-polluting or non-polluting industries.

While some jobs will (or should) be eliminated or changed, there are as many new worthwhile jobs waiting to happen. Responsible leadership can plan ahead so that workers aren't bad-off, during the transitions.

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Feb 7, 2021 11:39:04   #
agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa
 
kittykatt wrote:
But if you think about who is reporting both ratings -- the MSM. If biden's approval rating is ACTUALLY higher than Trumps was, then there is something seriously wrong with the American people. And if it is true, then the American people who voted for him are getting exactly what they deserve: loss of jobs, higher utility costs, fewer freedoms, less safety, more competition for jobs due to illegals coming into this country and those already in this country getting amnesty, more possibility of Islamic attacks along the lines of what is happening in Europe and around the world on a daily basis (check out JihadWatch) and 9/11 style attacks. More occupied cities and then states due to the actions of Antifa and BLM which has nothing to do with black lives and has more to do with subversive anti-American activities on the part of the founders of BLM. Time will tell exactly what is going to happen in this country.
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Right on !

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Feb 7, 2021 14:28:59   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
People never voting for what biting stood for because they didn't even nobody stood for

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Feb 7, 2021 21:56:26   #
maryjane
 
Kevyn wrote:
I am assuming the jobs you speak of are the canceled pipeline. The completed pipeline would employ about 80 people permanently not thousands. The temporary construction workers will move to other sectors and infrastructure so it is a wash. Our borders are not re-opened they haven’t been since the turn of the century. All he has done is allow refugees the due process anyone in this nation deserves. The “allowing China into our grid” claim is perplexing at best, please reference the particular EO you are talking about. The rationale for this is simple a cleaner less polluted nation is obviously better. Even animals know you don’t crap in your own nest. The humane and just treatment of refugees is hardly detrimental to anyone. We are after all a nation of immigrants, this is the source of our strength and diversity. Joe Biden is doing exactly what the American people elected him to do. Clean up the damage done by the Cheeto Faced Shitgibbon and getting our nation back on track.
I am assuming the jobs you speak of are the cancel... (show quote)


Since when are the uninvited foreigners showing up at our southern border "refugees"? And why should foreigners in our country illegally have access to any due process under our laws other than maybe transport to the border or nearest airport? I think the next time I hear you folks justify your desire for "no borders/let everyone in" with the same old argument that we are a nation of immigrants, I think I might vomit. We WERE a nation of immigrants in the early, developing years because we were building a brand new, previously uninhabited (except for some Indian tribes) nation. But, my Lord, today is 2021, not the 1800s, and the USA is a modern, fully settled/developed, successful nation of the world. We are no longer a nation of immigrants, at least we should not be. We having been adding 2-3 million new economic opportunists foreigners to our country every year since the 70s and the vast majority of those have been, continue to be, the poor/uneducated/unskilled/most needy/most burdensome citizebs from third world cesspit nations. It damn sure is a far cry from accepting a few foreigners annually that offer education/knowledge/skills very beneficial to America. No, instead we allow these greedy, scamming people of the worst countries AND their complicit nations to move right into our country exploiting America and Americans for everything we have, and very ably helped by our very own government politicians. These foreigners, since the 70s have been a source of diversity, yes, because they assimilate not at all, but instead bring their country/culture/cudtoms/way of life with them and retain all their allegiances and alliances to their country and their people. They seldom become Americans even the portion that actually become citizens. Our country is being deliberately filled by illegals who, on the face of it, have no respect for our sovereignty or laws and through chain migration , a program dreamed up by long ago by Democrats to HELP foreigners against all interests of our country or our citizens and because of this insanity, we get the elderly, the sick/ill/diseased, the mentally and/or physically handicapped, etc, people requiring care from the beginning. So, of course, our politicians help them with free medical care in our hospitals/emergency rooms, free education for the children no matter the harm to our education system because of their lack of English and their prior education experiences being at odds with our system. As for a cleaner, less polluted country being best for everyone, why does this only mean the USA and other western nations but never those like China, Iran, Africa?

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Feb 8, 2021 12:25:35   #
kittykatt
 
maryjane wrote:
Since when are the uninvited foreigners showing up at our southern border "refugees"? And why should foreigners in our country illegally have access to any due process under our laws other than maybe transport to the border or nearest airport? I think the next time I hear you folks justify your desire for "no borders/let everyone in" with the same old argument that we are a nation of immigrants, I think I might vomit. We WERE a nation of immigrants in the early, developing years because we were building a brand new, previously uninhabited (except for some Indian tribes) nation. But, my Lord, today is 2021, not the 1800s, and the USA is a modern, fully settled/developed, successful nation of the world. We are no longer a nation of immigrants, at least we should not be. We having been adding 2-3 million new economic opportunists foreigners to our country every year since the 70s and the vast majority of those have been, continue to be, the poor/uneducated/unskilled/most needy/most burdensome citizebs from third world cesspit nations. It damn sure is a far cry from accepting a few foreigners annually that offer education/knowledge/skills very beneficial to America. No, instead we allow these greedy, scamming people of the worst countries AND their complicit nations to move right into our country exploiting America and Americans for everything we have, and very ably helped by our very own government politicians. These foreigners, since the 70s have been a source of diversity, yes, because they assimilate not at all, but instead bring their country/culture/cudtoms/way of life with them and retain all their allegiances and alliances to their country and their people. They seldom become Americans even the portion that actually become citizens. Our country is being deliberately filled by illegals who, on the face of it, have no respect for our sovereignty or laws and through chain migration , a program dreamed up by long ago by Democrats to HELP foreigners against all interests of our country or our citizens and because of this insanity, we get the elderly, the sick/ill/diseased, the mentally and/or physically handicapped, etc, people requiring care from the beginning. So, of course, our politicians help them with free medical care in our hospitals/emergency rooms, free education for the children no matter the harm to our education system because of their lack of English and their prior education experiences being at odds with our system. As for a cleaner, less polluted country being best for everyone, why does this only mean the USA and other western nations but never those like China, Iran, Africa?
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You forgot to add that they bring in illnesses that we had previously eradicated such as tuberculosis and small pox amongst others. They are no longer adding to the American culture and way of life but subtracting from it. We used to be a melting pot where everyone assimilated into the American culture and became an American now we are referred to as a salad bowl where everyone does their own thing. Everyone is identified by a hyphenated label except for those of European descent. The purpose is and was to divide and then conquer us. China is making the rope that we are going to buy and then they are going to use to hang us with.

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Feb 8, 2021 12:35:34   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
kittykatt wrote:
In a way, yes those who voted for biden did vote for what is happening right now. During one of the debates biden indicated that he would do exactly what he has already done.


Right you are and for those who voted for him they are getting exactly what they wanted..I hope they are happy now... And for those who cheated the voters who did not vote for him well karma does have its ways of correcting injustices~~ Perhaps thats why the biden voters are getting what they wanted??

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Feb 8, 2021 12:37:11   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
kittykatt wrote:
You forgot to add that they bring in illnesses that we had previously eradicated such as tuberculosis and small pox amongst others. They are no longer adding to the American culture and way of life but subtracting from it. We used to be a melting pot where everyone assimilated into the American culture and became an American now we are referred to as a salad bowl where everyone does their own thing. Everyone is identified by a hyphenated label except for those of European descent. The purpose is and was to divide and then conquer us. China is making the rope that we are going to buy and then they are going to use to hang us with.
You forgot to add that they bring in illnesses tha... (show quote)


I like the way you think and your posts.. Thank You...

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Mar 3, 2021 15:12:21   #
promilitary
 
Kevyn wrote:
I am assuming the jobs you speak of are the canceled pipeline. The completed pipeline would employ about 80 people permanently not thousands. The temporary construction workers will move to other sectors and infrastructure so it is a wash. Our borders are not re-opened they haven’t been since the turn of the century. All he has done is allow refugees the due process anyone in this nation deserves. The “allowing China into our grid” claim is perplexing at best, please reference the particular EO you are talking about. The rationale for this is simple a cleaner less polluted nation is obviously better. Even animals know you don’t crap in your own nest. The humane and just treatment of refugees is hardly detrimental to anyone. We are after all a nation of immigrants, this is the source of our strength and diversity. Joe Biden is doing exactly what the American people elected him to do. Clean up the damage done by the Cheeto Faced Shitgibbon and getting our nation back on track.
I am assuming the jobs you speak of are the cancel... (show quote)





The COMPLETED Pipeline.......we're talking, for now, about all the jobs he destroyed to get the damn
pipeline finished. The rest of your post is doubtful.

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