The Right Fizzled Their Big Insurrection Send Off...They're On The Wrong Side Now
Those planning an insurrection or civil strife need to be aware of who controls the military and police, and the party and would be dictator in power is everything, it is a way different story when the leadership and control has been shifted to a party that the old one would like to depose.
Trump, and this trump supporting madness had it's best shot when trump had installed pro trump stooges at the top end of pentagon leadership positions. At the time of the capital insurrection those stooges had already vastly negated a national guard, secret service, and FBI response that should have been ready to deploy riot assistance in minutes, interfering in a way that caused hours of delays.
Biden has already completely started the process of removing those in positions of power and replacing them with those that will be true to defending the president that is in power versus the one that was removed from office by a legally acknowledged new president.
Already there are several major difference in the response right wing terrorists will be up against when they try another capital insurrection, or even one elsewhere like Michigan's capital...
...new rules on "taking" capitals, shooting will be started by those defending
...intelligence services are now aggressively looking at right wing groups as terrorist militant tied insurrectionists
When those at the top are trump sympathetic leaders, the orders that roll down hill reflect an unwillingness to treat pro trump violence as the terrorist actions they are, they are looked at as real americans and patriots, so they are shielded by a hesitancy or unwillingness to shoot these people. police and national guards are effectively rendered ineffective as a result. As seen in DC national guard troops were not even given firearms, their response times were blocked, as were the rules of engagement in terms of defending against insurrection.
So now how would that be different? They have guns, they have different rules of engagement, which would be to use their skills and resources to end any insurrection attempts, and it doesn't take a genius to understand that they will not be under don't shoot fellow americans rules, they will be under these are dangerous terrorist insurrectionists. Any insurrection attempts will now be live fire exercises.
Intelligence is under new management, the NSA has the ability to filter every single communication made in the united states and overseas. Under the trump administration there was no focus on right wing militias involved in actively planning events and actions. New rules, they are now. Those who are used to openly plotting, planning, talking about events and actions are under a microscope now. Orders will come from the top to root out and stomp on anyone even talking about crossing a line between talking and acting.
Elections matter, and the power trump and his supporters had has been cut by a hundredfold, and decreases by the week as those involved in insurrection talk and planning get decimated.
woodguru wrote:
Those planning an insurrection or civil strife need to be aware of who controls the military and police, and the party and would be dictator in power is everything, it is a way different story when the leadership and control has been shifted to a party that the old one would like to depose.
Trump, and this trump supporting madness had it's best shot when trump had installed pro trump stooges at the top end of pentagon leadership positions. At the time of the capital insurrection those stooges had already vastly negated a national guard, secret service, and FBI response that should have been ready to deploy riot assistance in minutes, interfering in a way that caused hours of delays.
Biden has already completely started the process of removing those in positions of power and replacing them with those that will be true to defending the president that is in power versus the one that was removed from office by a legally acknowledged new president.
Already there are several major difference in the response right wing terrorists will be up against when they try another capital insurrection, or even one elsewhere like Michigan's capital...
...new rules on "taking" capitals, shooting will be started by those defending
...intelligence services are now aggressively looking at right wing groups as terrorist militant tied insurrectionists
When those at the top are trump sympathetic leaders, the orders that roll down hill reflect an unwillingness to treat pro trump violence as the terrorist actions they are, they are looked at as real americans and patriots, so they are shielded by a hesitancy or unwillingness to shoot these people. police and national guards are effectively rendered ineffective as a result. As seen in DC national guard troops were not even given firearms, their response times were blocked, as were the rules of engagement in terms of defending against insurrection.
So now how would that be different? They have guns, they have different rules of engagement, which would be to use their skills and resources to end any insurrection attempts, and it doesn't take a genius to understand that they will not be under don't shoot fellow americans rules, they will be under these are dangerous terrorist insurrectionists. Any insurrection attempts will now be live fire exercises.
Intelligence is under new management, the NSA has the ability to filter every single communication made in the united states and overseas. Under the trump administration there was no focus on right wing militias involved in actively planning events and actions. New rules, they are now. Those who are used to openly plotting, planning, talking about events and actions are under a microscope now. Orders will come from the top to root out and stomp on anyone even talking about crossing a line between talking and acting.
Elections matter, and the power trump and his supporters had has been cut by a hundredfold, and decreases by the week as those involved in insurrection talk and planning get decimated.
Those planning an insurrection or civil strife nee... (
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A number of the so called oath keepers have been rounded up and face decades in prison. If that scum was properly handled when they pulled that crap for the welfare rancher we wouldn’t have suffered the terrorist attack on our Capitol. Time to declare the oath keepers and proud boys terrorists and deal with them accordingly.
woodguru wrote:
Those planning an insurrection or civil strife need to be aware of who controls the military and police, and the party and would be dictator in power is everything, it is a way different story when the leadership and control has been shifted to a party that the old one would like to depose.
Trump, and this trump supporting madness had it's best shot when trump had installed pro trump stooges at the top end of pentagon leadership positions. At the time of the capital insurrection those stooges had already vastly negated a national guard, secret service, and FBI response that should have been ready to deploy riot assistance in minutes, interfering in a way that caused hours of delays.
Biden has already completely started the process of removing those in positions of power and replacing them with those that will be true to defending the president that is in power versus the one that was removed from office by a legally acknowledged new president.
Already there are several major difference in the response right wing terrorists will be up against when they try another capital insurrection, or even one elsewhere like Michigan's capital...
...new rules on "taking" capitals, shooting will be started by those defending
...intelligence services are now aggressively looking at right wing groups as terrorist militant tied insurrectionists
When those at the top are trump sympathetic leaders, the orders that roll down hill reflect an unwillingness to treat pro trump violence as the terrorist actions they are, they are looked at as real americans and patriots, so they are shielded by a hesitancy or unwillingness to shoot these people. police and national guards are effectively rendered ineffective as a result. As seen in DC national guard troops were not even given firearms, their response times were blocked, as were the rules of engagement in terms of defending against insurrection.
So now how would that be different? They have guns, they have different rules of engagement, which would be to use their skills and resources to end any insurrection attempts, and it doesn't take a genius to understand that they will not be under don't shoot fellow americans rules, they will be under these are dangerous terrorist insurrectionists. Any insurrection attempts will now be live fire exercises.
Intelligence is under new management, the NSA has the ability to filter every single communication made in the united states and overseas. Under the trump administration there was no focus on right wing militias involved in actively planning events and actions. New rules, they are now. Those who are used to openly plotting, planning, talking about events and actions are under a microscope now. Orders will come from the top to root out and stomp on anyone even talking about crossing a line between talking and acting.
Elections matter, and the power trump and his supporters had has been cut by a hundredfold, and decreases by the week as those involved in insurrection talk and planning get decimated.
Those planning an insurrection or civil strife nee... (
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You're not playing with a full deck!
Kevyn wrote:
A number of the so called oath keepers have been rounded up and face decades in prison. If that scum was properly handled when they pulled that crap for the welfare rancher we wouldn’t have suffered the terrorist attack on our Capitol. Time to declare the oath keepers and proud boys terrorists and deal with them accordingly.
What crazy can did you crawl out of?
ldsuttonjr wrote:
You're not playing with a full deck!
Never was. Usually it's about some form of defecation.
Kevyn wrote:
A number of the so called oath keepers have been rounded up and face decades in prison. If that scum was properly handled when they pulled that crap for the welfare rancher we wouldn’t have suffered the terrorist attack on our Capitol. Time to declare the oath keepers and proud boys terrorists and deal with them accordingly.
As well as Antifa and BLM, I am in.
WEBCO wrote:
As well as Antifa and BLM, I am in.
Any efforts to commit terrorist acts will be under the same scrutiny. The difference the right has a tough time seeing is that neither Antifa or BLM have had any active plans to take over government...the other thing is that the FBI has had an awareness by both extremist right and left groups using those protests to launch violence under their protests.
The vast bulk of peaceful protesters go home at night when the trouble begins.
woodguru wrote:
Any efforts to commit terrorist acts will be under the same scrutiny. The difference the right has a tough time seeing is that neither Antifa or BLM have had any active plans to take over government...the other thing is that the FBI has had an awareness by both extremist right and left groups using those protests to launch violence under their protests.
The vast bulk of peaceful protesters go home at night when the trouble begins.
Didn't they take over 6 square blocks in Seattle, declaring it an autonmas zone, there dy ceceeding from the US?
They don't want to take over the government, they want to destroy it. They have said as much, it's time the left wakes up.
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