So tell us leftists (Page 5): I don't think Milosia even knows what he/she is saying! :sm23: :sm23: :sm23:...

hdjimv Loc: South Dakota

nwtk2007 wrote:

We aren't sure what Milosia is saying.

I don't think Milosia even knows what he/she is saying!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

hdjimv wrote:

I don't think Milosia even knows what he/she is saying!

I think that is an accurate statement!

America 1 Loc: South Miami

permafrost wrote:

You have been told over and over about the actual tax increase in trump tax gift, which will only affect 65% or so of the average Americans.. But once more, facts for you to consider...

I know you trump lovers hate the truth, but this article covers it well.. Follow the link and see the how and why and the "trickle down" affect as well..

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/31/opinion/republicans-biden-taxes.html

The Trump administration has a dirty little secret: It’s not just planning to increase taxes on most Americans. The increase has already been signed, sealed and delivered, buried in the pages of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

President Trump and his congressional allies hoodwinked us. The law they passed initially lowered taxes for most Americans, but it built in automatic, stepped tax increases every two years that begin in 2021 and that by 2027 would affect nearly everyone but people at the top of the economic hierarchy. All taxpayer income groups with incomes of $75,000 and under — that’s about 65 percent of taxpayers — will face a higher tax rate in 2027 than in 2019.

For most, in fact, it’s a delayed tax increase dressed up as a tax cut. How many times have you heard Trump and his allies mention that? They surmised — correctly, so far — that if they waited to add the tax increases until after the 2020 election, few of the people most affected were likely to remember who was responsible.

The current poverty line for a family of four is $26,200: People with incomes between $10,000 and $30,000 — nearly one-quarter of Americans — are among those scheduled to pay a higher average tax rate in 2021 than in years before the tax “cut” was passed. The C.B.O. and Joint Committee estimated that those with an income of $20,000 to $30,000 would owe an extra $365 next year — these are people who are struggling just to pay rent and put food on the table.

Of course, the poor have never mattered much to the Republican Party, but those on the edge of poverty have been particularly hard hit by the pandemic and the recession it has caused, so Trump’s planned tax increases seem especially heartless, and impractical, when you consider that their higher tax payments, while a huge burden for them, will add little to the budget.

By 2027, when the law’s provisions are set to be fully enacted, with the stealth tax increases complete, the country will be neatly divided into two groups: Those making over $100,000 will on average get a tax cut. Those earning under $100,000 — an income bracket encompassing three-quarters of taxpayers — will not.

At the same time, Trump has given his peers, people with annual incomes in excess of $1 million dollars, or the top 0.3 percent in the country, a huge gift: The Joint Committee on Taxation estimated the average tax rate in 2019 for this group to be 2.3 percentage points lower than before the tax cut, saving the average taxpayer in this group over $64,000 — more than the average American family makes in a year.

Mark Zandi and Bernard Yaros of Moody’s Analytics have done the most credible and thorough analysis comparing the Biden and Trump plans, including Mr. Trump’s stealth increases and other promised tax and expenditure changes. Mr. Biden’s plan wins by an enormous margin: 7.4 million more jobs and a much quicker recovery from this recession. That means higher wages and incomes for most Americans.

You have been told over and over about the actual ... (show quote)

OCTOBER 11, 2020
Anti-Trump Media Darling Mark Zandi Disgraces Moody’s Analytics For Fourth Straight Year
As another election season rounds out we’re reminded of characters like Mark Zandi, “Moody’s Chief Economist,” who has never analyzed an economic scenario that didn’t lead him to believe that the world will be a much better place if the left were in charge and “that’s exactly what the markets are betting will happen very soon.”

He is to the stock market what Scott Gottlieb is to healthcare: a shameless media shill who dishonestly claims to be impartial and exploits his expert credentials so he can go on TV and become a pundit who does nothing but spin facts to fit the media’s anti-Trump narrative.
Just like his leftist media bosses, Zandi will of course say, “I guess you don’t like the facts. I’m totally impartial and am just telling the truth!”

Also just like his leftist media bosses, Zandi’s version of “the truth” is around 5% facts and 95% opinion/ speculation.

Also just like his leftist media bosses, Zandi’s version of “the truth” almost every single time amounts to terrible news and feelings for Trump supporters and reasons to celebrate for those who oppose Trump.
For example: In this piece from June 2016 Zandi explains that Trump’s economic plans would destroy the economy, and in this piece from November 2016 (after Trump won) Zandi reinforced his easily disproven fear-mongering.
He was wildly wrong both times and his speculation was based almost entirely on his own opinion and feelings. But that’s the “expertise” we get from the media.
This morning I caught him on CNN with that damp blob of talking lukewarm playdough, John King, and was unfortunately unsurprised to find myself in a timewarp back to 2016.
Can you guess what the media’s coveted “Moody’s Analytics Chief Economist, Mark Zandi” was saying?
He was saying that the markets are doing great because they’ve already factored in a Biden win and a Democrat sweep of Congress.

Even if Zandi actually believes what he’s saying, where’s even a shred of difference to the reality that this same man said the exact same thing and more four years ago, and was wrong about all of it?

Where’s the deference for all of the people the media trot out as “experts” who got it so wrong in 2016 and now, four years later, are saying and doing the exact same things all over again? They spent the last four years trying to undo the 2016 election and the last four months pretending all their mistakes, shamelessness, dishonesty, and bad behavior never even happened. And they’re playing all the same games and rolling out all the same characters to do it.

There’s plenty out there I’ve already written on all of this but as I saw this Mark Zandi character trotted out yet again, that 2016 vibe came flooding back and I remembered the same guy spewing the same bs four years ago under the same dishonest guise of impartiality being exploited under the same banner of expertise.
I’m just so sick of these same “experts” who are always wrong being trotted out year after year to help the media dose their viewers with placebo-based confirmation bias. And it was worth penning a piece with Mark Zandi’s name attached to call him out. Who knows. If enough people agree with and share this, he might even be forced to read it himself someday and reckon with the reality that we see right through him and his political media posturing will forever be nothing but a disgrace not just to Moody’s name but his own as well.

https://lovebreedsaccountability.com/2020/10/11/anti-trump-media-darling-mark-zandi-disgraces-moodys-analytics-for-fourth-straight-year/

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

America 1 wrote:

OCTOBER 11, 2020
Anti-Trump Media Darling Mark Zandi Disgraces Moody’s Analytics For Fourth Straight Year
As another election season rounds out we’re reminded of characters like Mark Zandi, “Moody’s Chief Economist,” who has never analyzed an economic scenario that didn’t lead him to believe that the world will be a much better place if the left were in charge and “that’s exactly what the markets are betting will happen very soon.”

He is to the stock market what Scott Gottlieb is to healthcare: a shameless media shill who dishonestly claims to be impartial and exploits his expert credentials so he can go on TV and become a pundit who does nothing but spin facts to fit the media’s anti-Trump narrative.
Just like his leftist media bosses, Zandi will of course say, “I guess you don’t like the facts. I’m totally impartial and am just telling the truth!”

Also just like his leftist media bosses, Zandi’s version of “the truth” is around 5% facts and 95% opinion/ speculation.

Also just like his leftist media bosses, Zandi’s version of “the truth” almost every single time amounts to terrible news and feelings for Trump supporters and reasons to celebrate for those who oppose Trump.
For example: In this piece from June 2016 Zandi explains that Trump’s economic plans would destroy the economy, and in this piece from November 2016 (after Trump won) Zandi reinforced his easily disproven fear-mongering.
He was wildly wrong both times and his speculation was based almost entirely on his own opinion and feelings. But that’s the “expertise” we get from the media.
This morning I caught him on CNN with that damp blob of talking lukewarm playdough, John King, and was unfortunately unsurprised to find myself in a timewarp back to 2016.
Can you guess what the media’s coveted “Moody’s Analytics Chief Economist, Mark Zandi” was saying?
He was saying that the markets are doing great because they’ve already factored in a Biden win and a Democrat sweep of Congress.

Even if Zandi actually believes what he’s saying, where’s even a shred of difference to the reality that this same man said the exact same thing and more four years ago, and was wrong about all of it?

Where’s the deference for all of the people the media trot out as “experts” who got it so wrong in 2016 and now, four years later, are saying and doing the exact same things all over again? They spent the last four years trying to undo the 2016 election and the last four months pretending all their mistakes, shamelessness, dishonesty, and bad behavior never even happened. And they’re playing all the same games and rolling out all the same characters to do it.

There’s plenty out there I’ve already written on all of this but as I saw this Mark Zandi character trotted out yet again, that 2016 vibe came flooding back and I remembered the same guy spewing the same bs four years ago under the same dishonest guise of impartiality being exploited under the same banner of expertise.
I’m just so sick of these same “experts” who are always wrong being trotted out year after year to help the media dose their viewers with placebo-based confirmation bias. And it was worth penning a piece with Mark Zandi’s name attached to call him out. Who knows. If enough people agree with and share this, he might even be forced to read it himself someday and reckon with the reality that we see right through him and his political media posturing will forever be nothing but a disgrace not just to Moody’s name but his own as well.

https://lovebreedsaccountability.com/2020/10/11/anti-trump-media-darling-mark-zandi-disgraces-moodys-analytics-for-fourth-straight-year/

OCTOBER 11, 2020 br Anti-Trump Media Darling Mark ... (show quote)

The leftists still deny the effectiveness of Trump's economy but not Joe Biden, he said his economic goal is to get us back to the pre-Covid booming economy we had.

agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa

archie bunker wrote:

What's the interest rate on that $1400.00 you vote... (show quote)

YUP !

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

jSmitty45 wrote:

👍👍👍👍

It didn’t buy my vote. Trump proposed it.
$2000.00 you got $600.00 now another $1400.00 =. $2000.00
How do you come up with this crappo.
Interest ?
It’s only money.
We print zillions of it.
The problem is you don’t have a way to access it.
No jobs, bad credit now, not born rich, to honest to rob a bank.
Just another serf at the gate.
Begging for handouts,
Oh, with a constitution in your pocket.
The first three words are.....
We The People.......
Sad, you sitting on top of the world out there begging for food and shopping at the $Dollar Store !

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

hdjimv wrote:

10% flat tax for everyone! No deductions, no exemptions for any person or business.

Nope!
With no business write offs you’ll kill business growth.
If I couldn’t write off a tractor I wouldn’t expand my farm, therefore my future revenues would be static and the amount of tax I pay would not increase.
No, flat tax is ok but deductible expenses are vital.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

America 1 wrote:

OCTOBER 11, 2020
Anti-Trump Media Darling Mark Zandi Disgraces Moody’s Analytics For Fourth Straight Year
As another election season rounds out we’re reminded of characters like Mark Zandi, “Moody’s Chief Economist,” who has never analyzed an economic scenario that didn’t lead him to believe that the world will be a much better place if the left were in charge and “that’s exactly what the markets are betting will happen very soon.”

He is to the stock market what Scott Gottlieb is to healthcare: a shameless media shill who dishonestly claims to be impartial and exploits his expert credentials so he can go on TV and become a pundit who does nothing but spin facts to fit the media’s anti-Trump narrative.
Just like his leftist media bosses, Zandi will of course say, “I guess you don’t like the facts. I’m totally impartial and am just telling the truth!”

Also just like his leftist media bosses, Zandi’s version of “the truth” is around 5% facts and 95% opinion/ speculation.

Also just like his leftist media bosses, Zandi’s version of “the truth” almost every single time amounts to terrible news and feelings for Trump supporters and reasons to celebrate for those who oppose Trump.
For example: In this piece from June 2016 Zandi explains that Trump’s economic plans would destroy the economy, and in this piece from November 2016 (after Trump won) Zandi reinforced his easily disproven fear-mongering.
He was wildly wrong both times and his speculation was based almost entirely on his own opinion and feelings. But that’s the “expertise” we get from the media.
This morning I caught him on CNN with that damp blob of talking lukewarm playdough, John King, and was unfortunately unsurprised to find myself in a timewarp back to 2016.
Can you guess what the media’s coveted “Moody’s Analytics Chief Economist, Mark Zandi” was saying?
He was saying that the markets are doing great because they’ve already factored in a Biden win and a Democrat sweep of Congress.

Even if Zandi actually believes what he’s saying, where’s even a shred of difference to the reality that this same man said the exact same thing and more four years ago, and was wrong about all of it?

Where’s the deference for all of the people the media trot out as “experts” who got it so wrong in 2016 and now, four years later, are saying and doing the exact same things all over again? They spent the last four years trying to undo the 2016 election and the last four months pretending all their mistakes, shamelessness, dishonesty, and bad behavior never even happened. And they’re playing all the same games and rolling out all the same characters to do it.

There’s plenty out there I’ve already written on all of this but as I saw this Mark Zandi character trotted out yet again, that 2016 vibe came flooding back and I remembered the same guy spewing the same bs four years ago under the same dishonest guise of impartiality being exploited under the same banner of expertise.
I’m just so sick of these same “experts” who are always wrong being trotted out year after year to help the media dose their viewers with placebo-based confirmation bias. And it was worth penning a piece with Mark Zandi’s name attached to call him out. Who knows. If enough people agree with and share this, he might even be forced to read it himself someday and reckon with the reality that we see right through him and his political media posturing will forever be nothing but a disgrace not just to Moody’s name but his own as well.

https://lovebreedsaccountability.com/2020/10/11/anti-trump-media-darling-mark-zandi-disgraces-moodys-analytics-for-fourth-straight-year/

OCTOBER 11, 2020 br Anti-Trump Media Darling Mark ... (show quote)

gee, not even a respectable byline... if you depend on right wing blogs for your support you will never be in pain.. they make their own existence possible by telling the cult members what they wish to hear and nothing related to reality..

if you wish to believe this version of the world I do not care at all..

When trump starts his 3rd party to escape the rejection of the republican party in 2024, I know you will be a happy member of the fantasy orange world..

but I have to say, I doubt very much trump will be engaged for 2024.. a variety of facts render that very unlikely..
from his own health, possible prison time, the conviction on his 2nd impeachment.. to the resources required to fund such a project.. while I helped elect Ventura to become a 3rd party governor of Minnesota, no one is going to go national with trump, if he goes, he goes alone and can not come close..

But I do like the idea, help him out and see what happens..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Marty 2020 wrote:

Nope!
With no business write offs you’ll kill business growth.
If I couldn’t write off a tractor I wouldn’t expand my farm, therefore my future revenues would be static and the amount of tax I pay would not increase.
No, flat tax is ok but deductible expenses are vital.

You speak the truth Marty....

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

nwtk2007 wrote:

The leftists still deny the effectiveness of Trump's economy but not Joe Biden, he said his economic goal is to get us back to the pre-Covid booming economy we had.

If you think trump changed the economy, name something he did that changed the direction the economy was moving toward..

.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

permafrost wrote:

gee, not even a respectable byline... if you depen... (show quote)

So, you read the article in its entirety and announce your in-depth assessment.
The bottom line for you, only a leftwing BS message is believable.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

America 1 wrote:

So, you read the article in its entirety and announce your in-depth assessment.
The bottom line for you, only a leftwing BS message is believable.

do you understand the difference between a news service with a world famous reputation for coverage Vs the blog from someone's basement, which is aimed not at news but bringing comments that a particular segment of our society wishes to be told?

I think you do not... so giving you more facts is only wasting my own ever lessening time..

so you go on in your bubble and have a eye for your future.. it will not be as you hope..

America 1 Loc: South Miami

permafrost wrote:

do you understand the difference between a news service with a world famous reputation for coverage Vs the blog from someone's basement, which is aimed not at news but bringing comments that a particular segment of our society wishes to be told?

I think you do not... so giving you more facts is only wasting my own ever lessening time..

so you go on in your bubble and have a eye for your future.. it will not be as you hope..

Right, you are a waste of time.

Wonttakeitanymore

Milosia2 wrote:

He has already offered you $1400.00
Are you complaining already ?
Nothing trump ever did hurt the rich.
Today, Im sure nothing Biden will do will hurt
Everyday Americans.

Offered and receiving two different things!!! How much debt can our children handle and theirs and their and theirs?

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

nwtk2007 wrote:

This is just the beginning. Biden said he was going to shift us totally away from oil and gas. And we are supposed to believe that Pennsylvania voted for him?

That can never happen, this planet or its population cannot survive without either at this point in time .
Both of those are used in thousands of everyday products people will never go without.

This damn porn box i tap this from, every solar product, 60% of vehicles are plastic other than body and engine, water without a bottle. ... heavens no, reusable bottle..... yea, more oil.

The fools calling for this have no idea how it will affecf every aspect of their lives, the list goes on forever.

One thing is for sure, every item derived from either will go up exponentially if they attempt that idiocy.