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Jan 21, 2021 05:40:40   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
archie bunker wrote:
Exactly! And you're spot on too!

There is one component to the economy that you have brought up here that will make the price of EVERYTHING go up. FUEL.

I seem to remember during the Obama years how they talked about high fuel prices being good for the environment. It costs too much, so people use less. But, even in areas where people don't own vehicles, prices for every purchased good from food to vagasil went way up. Why?
Because it costs the rich who own, or have stock in these companies more to manufacture, and distribute. They ain't losing any money, so they raise prices to offset that.

This shit ain't rocket surgery!!
Exactly! And you're spot on too! br br There is... (show quote)


RBH21 Gasoline RBOB (Mar '21) 1.5306, today's price on the NYMEX.
The day before the election 11/02/2020 @ 1.04
Each penny increase in the futures contract equals $420.00.
Close to $21000.00 per futures contract in 2 1/2 months.
https://www.barchart.com/futures/quotes/RBH21/interactive-chart

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Jan 21, 2021 05:46:37   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
archie bunker wrote:
Exactly! And you're spot on too!

There is one component to the economy that you have brought up here that will make the price of EVERYTHING go up. FUEL.

I seem to remember during the Obama years how they talked about high fuel prices being good for the environment. It costs too much, so people use less. But, even in areas where people don't own vehicles, prices for every purchased good from food to vagasil went way up. Why?
Because it costs the rich who own, or have stock in these companies more to manufacture, and distribute. They ain't losing any money, so they raise prices to offset that.

This shit ain't rocket surgery!!
Exactly! And you're spot on too! br br There is... (show quote)


Simple solution, buy a hybrid vehicle next time. Oil reserves will run out in 50 years, we have to change sometime!

Corporations made record profits in 2020, during the pandemic! Nearly 1/3 of the fortune 500 companies in the USA paid zero taxes last year, while they were raking in historic profits. All those rich people with those huge businesses use all of our infrastructure to make those huge profits. They drive on our roads, use our ports and airports to move merchandise and materials. Why should us private citizens have to pay for the infrastructure they use to make their billions?

Bottom line if we want to get the country back on track, we need to have enough funds coming into the government to cover the costs of government. Part of it is taxation, part of it is spending. If we cut the annual military budget by 10% we could do a hell of a lot with that $70 billion annual savings in things like infrastructure development and education reform and do some things that will make a real difference in the future.

I have no issue with paying more tax if that will help us get our house in order and save the future for our children. But it has to come from both increased taxation and reduced spending. And don't go off on a tirade against any party, the GOP has been as bad or worse than the Dems in raising the deficit over the past several decades.

Can you answer a question for me Arch?

Why did the GOP and Trump pass a tax bill that gave significant tax advantages to the wealthy and corporations and much smaller tax savings to individuals in the middle class? And why did they make those corporate reductions permanent, but the deductions for us little people are all scheduled to run out in 2025? Yep so in 2025 we all get stomped, all our old personal deductions are still gone, but the tax changes that were instigated to allow that to happen and many people to still get a smaller tax bill are wiped out. So just why did they do that Arch?

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Jan 21, 2021 06:02:31   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Milosia2 wrote:
He has already offered you $1400.00
Are you complaining already ?
Nothing trump ever did hurt the rich.
Today, Im sure nothing Biden will do will hurt
Everyday Americans.


Guess when your taxes, fuel cost, groceries, and all goods go sky high, you will still praise Biden, the dementia president!

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Jan 21, 2021 06:04:40   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
archie bunker wrote:
What's the interest rate on that $1400.00 you voted for?
No, it isn't a loan, it's a gift that bought your vote. You will be expected to reciprocate that gift many times over in the long run. Trust me.

Personally, I'll forego the measly $1400.00 now so I don't have to pay $14000.00 over the next four years.
You just ain't all that bright, are you?

Everything will become more expensive now because of your brilliant ideas. Therefore, everyone who has a little more will be forced to "give" more to those who have a little less until we all have a little less, and your benevolent leaders have it all.

Think......Venezuela......
What's the interest rate on that $1400.00 you vote... (show quote)


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Jan 21, 2021 06:07:02   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
working class stiff wrote:
The House is responsible for taxes. So, none of the EOs will result in higher taxes. Don't need any time at all, just an understanding of the Constitution.

Try again.


Oh yes they will, Harris will make sure we all pay more in taxes.
Everything will go up in price!

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Jan 21, 2021 06:08:09   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
archie bunker wrote:
Exactly! And you're spot on too!

There is one component to the economy that you have brought up here that will make the price of EVERYTHING go up. FUEL.

I seem to remember during the Obama years how they talked about high fuel prices being good for the environment. It costs too much, so people use less. But, even in areas where people don't own vehicles, prices for every purchased good from food to vagasil went way up. Why?
Because it costs the rich who own, or have stock in these companies more to manufacture, and distribute. They ain't losing any money, so they raise prices to offset that.

This shit ain't rocket surgery!!
Exactly! And you're spot on too! br br There is... (show quote)


When fuel goes up, everything goes up!

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Jan 21, 2021 06:37:40   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
Simple solution, buy a hybrid vehicle next time. Oil reserves will run out in 50 years, we have to change sometime!

Corporations made record profits in 2020, during the pandemic! Nearly 1/3 of the fortune 500 companies in the USA paid zero taxes last year, while they were raking in historic profits. All those rich people with those huge businesses use all of our infrastructure to make those huge profits. They drive on our roads, use our ports and airports to move merchandise and materials. Why should us private citizens have to pay for the infrastructure they use to make their billions?

Bottom line if we want to get the country back on track, we need to have enough funds coming into the government to cover the costs of government. Part of it is taxation, part of it is spending. If we cut the annual military budget by 10% we could do a hell of a lot with that $70 billion annual savings in things like infrastructure development and education reform and do some things that will make a real difference in the future.

I have no issue with paying more tax if that will help us get our house in order and save the future for our children. But it has to come from both increased taxation and reduced spending. And don't go off on a tirade against any party, the GOP has been as bad or worse than the Dems in raising the deficit over the past several decades.

Can you answer a question for me Arch?

Why did the GOP and Trump pass a tax bill that gave significant tax advantages to the wealthy and corporations and much smaller tax savings to individuals in the middle class? And why did they make those corporate reductions permanent, but the deductions for us little people are all scheduled to run out in 2025? Yep so in 2025 we all get stomped, all our old personal deductions are still gone, but the tax changes that were instigated to allow that to happen and many people to still get a smaller tax bill are wiped out. So just why did they do that Arch?
Simple solution, buy a hybrid vehicle next time. ... (show quote)


How many bales of hay can a Prius carry?

And, the GOP sucks balls too.

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Jan 21, 2021 07:33:06   #
Big Kahuna
 
Milosia2 wrote:
He has already offered you $1400.00
Are you complaining already ?
Nothing trump ever did hurt the rich.
Today, Im sure nothing Biden will do will hurt
Everyday Americans.


Slo Joe has offered me everything. Handouts for my student loans, car notes, house notes, a guaranteed monthly salary for not working and he will be taking all that money from you to pay for my debt. Good luck Milktoastia after you are found wondering in some ghetto in comrade DiBlasio's Bowery destitute and impoverished.

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Jan 21, 2021 07:38:49   #
Big Kahuna
 
roy wrote:
Maybe the question ,is will it put more money in everyday Americans pockets instead of the dam people that have sucked our middle Class dry.


And the answer is no. Slo Joe will just keep reimbursing the Commie Chinese with American tax payer money to continue paying off the Chinese for all their support for helping him fraudulently steal this election. "Stop Stealing Joe", is the new American rallying cry. And ""Stop Plagiarizing , Joe" is our follow up cry.

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Jan 21, 2021 07:40:13   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
All of them!


Translation: because I said so.

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Jan 21, 2021 07:45:10   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
working class stiff wrote:
The House is responsible for taxes. So, none of the EOs will result in higher taxes. Don't need any time at all, just an understanding of the Constitution.

Try again.



Yes, just as the house had to pass Trumps tax reductions... We agree...

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Jan 21, 2021 08:31:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Your boy Joe has been EO'ing all evening. Tell us, which of those will NOT result in higher taxes for the middle class.

Good luck and take all the time you need.

nwtk2007


Death and Higher taxes both unavoidable?

Democrats believe so.

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Jan 21, 2021 08:46:31   #
roy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Get real Roy. Biden will get them some cash. But in the end, it is not enough and Biden will be faced with the realization; we need to re-open our economy fully, no matter what.

Get down there and help them get the vaccine out, why don't you. Take a risk. Touch a leper!


Where is the supply of vaccine trump said we had, if it was there which its not we could get it out to the people . But another lie from trump..

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Jan 21, 2021 08:51:39   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
archie bunker wrote:
How many bales of hay can a Prius carry?

And, the GOP sucks balls too.


"And, the GOP sucks balls too." - archie bunker

Yes they do!

The Council on Foreign Relations - James Perloff Exposes the CFR Agenda - Corbett Report
https://youtu.be/VT3BzYUZpo4


This is how the take over of BOTH parties was achieved:


Both party “leaderships” have been partners in the International Banker’s NWO/NeoCON Agenda
Both parties have promoted - NWO Fascism/Warfare & NWO Socialism (international bank funding and bailouts by taxpayers)
Both parties have been partners in working for the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bankers. “OUR” Government bailed the Banksters out, and left the citizens/taxpayers holding the bag for Trillions.
Both parties have promoted perpetual “war”. Just pay attention to Obama’s Foreign policy; Same as the NeoCON’s foreign policy of perpetual wars; based on the phony “War on Terrorism”.
The election fixers have been trying to put it in place again, to eliminate all other non-owned candidates.
The banker controlled media (FOX,CNN,CBS.NBC, and ABC do all they can to install another CFR puppet. Just go to You Tube to see the prejudice and party corruption used against Ron Paul. The owned media, with their Talking Bobble Heads, are full partners in our nation’s sell out to a world socialist/fascist dictatorship run by wannabe slave masters.
Who will open their eyes and wake up others?
Some CFR commentary
http://www.alpheus.org/html/source_materials/parapolitics/CFR_NWO.htm

The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today,CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
________________________________________
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
CFR Roster Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d

A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:

Both Bushes - CFR,B (R)
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Condoleezza Rice CFR/84 (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
H. Kissinger - CFR,TC,BB ( R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC, BB
Ben Bernanke - BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
George Soros - CFR,BB
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB
Jerome H. Powell (Fed Chairman) CFR

THE MEDIA:

George Will - CFR,TC (R)
Katherine A. "Katie" Couric CFR
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Dick Morris (D&R)
Charles Krauthammer CFR
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB

David Richmond Gergen - CNN SPINNER BB/CFR/TC/92
Robert B. Reich CFR

Brian Williams - CFR
Larry Kudlow - CFR’88


Military
General David Petraeus CFR,
X-CIA Director
Chuck Hagel CFR
Colin Powell CFR/BB’86




In the News:
Haley Barbour CFR
Eric Holder CFR
Larry Summers CFR, BB
Janet Yellen CFR
Jeh Johnson CFR
Ashton Carter CFR/92
Chuck Hagel CFR

More Politicians:

Fred Thompson CFR (R)
Charles B. Rangel CFR (D)
Barney Frank CFR (D)
Richard Newton Gardner CFR/RS/TC/84
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (D) CFR/92
Sandra Day O'Connor (R) CFR/92
Neil M. Gorsuch? CFR (R)
Madeleine Albright CFR (D)

Robert S. Mcnamara CFR (D)
Warren Christopher CFR (D)
Madeleine Albright CFR (D)
Samuel Richard ("Sandy") Berger CFR/BB



International Bankers

JamesWolfensohn BB,CFR,TC

Paul Wolfowitz BB,CFR,TC
dov zakheim 9/11 mastermind

Obama’s Executive Cabinet members:

Vice President of the United States
Joseph R. Biden CFR/88

Department of State
Secretary Hillary Rodham BB/CFR/RS/TC –
See Hillary’s speaches at CFR meeting on Youtube


Department of the Treasury
Secretary Timothy F. Geithner BB/CFR/TC/09
NOW: Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR



Department of Defense
Secretary Leon E. Panetta?
Need to research his background
Chuck Hagel CFR

CFR Foreign Policy;
General Wesley Clark explains ISIS was created by U.S. Allies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojcoKnTGf4s (removed)

https://youtu.be/LFwGvk3k6WM

Israel Lobbyist - We Need a False Flag to Start War with Iran!
https://youtu.be/PfoaLbbAix0

Israel Lobby: Attack Iran First, End Israel Apartheid State| Heroes and Villains
https://youtu.be/U951pNgMFMU

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Jan 21, 2021 09:24:27   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
Guess when your taxes, fuel cost, groceries, and all goods go sky high, you will still praise Biden, the dementia president!



That is pure Speculation on your part.

CPI for cost of living went down when Reagan took office. Only because he changed how it was calculated.
By taking out housing, remember housing?
The housing scam Reagan allowed to happen in California ?
He took housing and fuel out of the equation. This continues today to keep you from gaining Cost Of Living Increases.
Republicans have never been on your side.
Once Reagan got rid of Union involvements
The theft continued , to this day.

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