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Believing Trump Even Could Have Won Is An Exercise In Illogical Magical Thinking
Jan 20, 2021 13:23:46   #
woodguru
 
Look at how close the races were that gave trump the election in 2016, 80,000 votes between four key states. With a race that close trump would have had to be doing many things well to gain more votes amongst the groups that supported him before.

He lost supporters in every key demographic, show me the ones he gained in
...educated women were a surprise in 2016, a train wreck in 2020, he lost double digit votes
...unlikely he made any gains with blacks
...same with hispanics
...Farmers and ranchers were posting small losses in voter support
...Covid caught some people by surprise and turned their minds to trump doing nothing
...coal workers felt abandoned after being promised jobs
...unions took anti trump positions
...there were Bernie people so pissed about the primary that they voted for trump out of spite (Biden now)
...Hillary smelled so bad to many that they voted another party besides trump (those went toward Biden now)

where did he gain support? The new voters had to offset a whole lot of people who voted once but not again. There is no sound logic to thinking trump did not lose voters to Biden, The numbers of registered republicans and registered democrats tell the tale.

And fraud, we will be looking into Kentucky, because those numbers are all screwed up beyond any sense. My guess is Kentucky will say a recount is not possible, but a forensic analysis is.

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Jan 20, 2021 13:40:44   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
Look at how close the races were that gave trump the election in 2016, 80,000 votes between four key states. With a race that close trump would have had to be doing many things well to gain more votes amongst the groups that supported him before.

He lost supporters in every key demographic, show me the ones he gained in
...educated women were a surprise in 2016, a train wreck in 2020, he lost double digit votes
...unlikely he made any gains with blacks
...same with hispanics
...Farmers and ranchers were posting small losses in voter support
...Covid caught some people by surprise and turned their minds to trump doing nothing
...coal workers felt abandoned after being promised jobs
...unions took anti trump positions
...there were Bernie people so pissed about the primary that they voted for trump out of spite (Biden now)
...Hillary smelled so bad to many that they voted another party besides trump (those went toward Biden now)

where did he gain support? The new voters had to offset a whole lot of people who voted once but not again. There is no sound logic to thinking trump did not lose voters to Biden, The numbers of registered republicans and registered democrats tell the tale.

And fraud, we will be looking into Kentucky, because those numbers are all screwed up beyond any sense. My guess is Kentucky will say a recount is not possible, but a forensic analysis is.
Look at how close the races were that gave trump t... (show quote)


He made support with African-Americans ,Hispanics , Asians . ...Thanks to him, your democrats in Congress have the slimmest majority . ....And in 2022 we will get the House back and than you really should be afraid ...

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Jan 20, 2021 13:49:47   #
Singularity
 
woodguru wrote:
Look at how close the races were that gave trump the election in 2016, 80,000 votes between four key states. With a race that close trump would have had to be doing many things well to gain more votes amongst the groups that supported him before.

He lost supporters in every key demographic, show me the ones he gained in
...educated women were a surprise in 2016, a train wreck in 2020, he lost double digit votes
...unlikely he made any gains with blacks
...same with hispanics
...Farmers and ranchers were posting small losses in voter support
...Covid caught some people by surprise and turned their minds to trump doing nothing
...coal workers felt abandoned after being promised jobs
...unions took anti trump positions
...there were Bernie people so pissed about the primary that they voted for trump out of spite (Biden now)
...Hillary smelled so bad to many that they voted another party besides trump (those went toward Biden now)

where did he gain support? The new voters had to offset a whole lot of people who voted once but not again. There is no sound logic to thinking trump did not lose voters to Biden, The numbers of registered republicans and registered democrats tell the tale.

And fraud, we will be looking into Kentucky, because those numbers are all screwed up beyond any sense. My guess is Kentucky will say a recount is not possible, but a forensic analysis is.
Look at how close the races were that gave trump t... (show quote)



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Jan 20, 2021 14:28:41   #
factnotfiction
 
proud republican wrote:
He made support with African-Americans ,Hispanics , Asians . ...Thanks to him, your democrats in Congress have the slimmest majority . ....And in 2022 we will get the House back and than you really should be afraid ...





Thanks to trump, we also have the senate

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Jan 20, 2021 14:31:51   #
JW
 
factnotfiction wrote:
Thanks to trump, we also have the senate


You mean, thanks to Dominion Voting Systems.

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Jan 20, 2021 14:39:44   #
factnotfiction
 
JW wrote:
You mean, thanks to Dominion Voting Systems.




No, thanks to trump, his easily fooled demented supporters, his totally inept and corrupt and dishonest lawyers.

But on the other hand, we won because of 'honest republican patriots' called poll workers, who refused to participate in the lies of treasonous conservatives, and we won because 82 million voters with brains got rid of trump.

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Jan 20, 2021 14:45:53   #
JW
 
factnotfiction wrote:
No, thanks to trump, his easily fooled demented supporters, his totally inept and corrupt and dishonest lawyers.

But on the other hand, we won because of 'honest republican patriots' called poll workers, who refused to participate in the lies of treasonous conservatives, and we won because 82 million voters with brains got rid of trump.


You won by the lowest means possible, thievery and deceit.

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Jan 20, 2021 15:34:23   #
factnotfiction
 
JW wrote:
You won by the lowest means possible, thievery and deceit.




Surely you are talking about trump in 2016

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Jan 20, 2021 15:53:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JW wrote:
You won by the lowest means possible, thievery and deceit.


clearly you lack the guts and stones of real republicans and in no way represent America... even trump appointed guardians of the vote, told trump the election was fair and honest..

In all the world only trump cult drones stick to echoing trump wishes and dreams.. fading now as he settles into the southern temporary home..

Yes, you love the accomplishment of 4 years in the orange haze..
Yes, you love the accomplishment of 4 years in the...

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Jan 20, 2021 16:07:52   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
woodguru wrote:
Look at how close the races were that gave trump the election in 2016, 80,000 votes between four key states. With a race that close trump would have had to be doing many things well to gain more votes amongst the groups that supported him before.

He lost supporters in every key demographic, show me the ones he gained in
...educated women were a surprise in 2016, a train wreck in 2020, he lost double digit votes
...unlikely he made any gains with blacks
...same with hispanics
...Farmers and ranchers were posting small losses in voter support
...Covid caught some people by surprise and turned their minds to trump doing nothing
...coal workers felt abandoned after being promised jobs
...unions took anti trump positions
...there were Bernie people so pissed about the primary that they voted for trump out of spite (Biden now)
...Hillary smelled so bad to many that they voted another party besides trump (those went toward Biden now)

where did he gain support? The new voters had to offset a whole lot of people who voted once but not again. There is no sound logic to thinking trump did not lose voters to Biden, The numbers of registered republicans and registered democrats tell the tale.

And fraud, we will be looking into Kentucky, because those numbers are all screwed up beyond any sense. My guess is Kentucky will say a recount is not possible, but a forensic analysis is.
Look at how close the races were that gave trump t... (show quote)


68 - 73% of Americans wanted trump gone, how does he win with only 32% wanting him to stay? Trump approval rating was 42%, meaning 58% disapproved, how does he win with no more than 42% wanting him to continue?

Math doesn't lie.

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Jan 20, 2021 16:59:44   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
lpnmajor wrote:
68 - 73% of Americans wanted trump gone, how does he win with only 32% wanting him to stay? Trump approval rating was 42%, meaning 58% disapproved, how does he win with no more than 42% wanting him to continue?

Math doesn't lie.


And yet, even with all the questionable voting irregularities in democrat strongholds, Biden only won by 48,000 votes in three states. Doesn't really square with your math analogy.

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Jan 20, 2021 18:54:44   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
permafrost wrote:
clearly you lack the guts and stones of real republicans and in no way represent America... even trump appointed guardians of the vote, told trump the election was fair and honest..

In all the world only trump cult drones stick to echoing trump wishes and dreams.. fading now as he settles into the southern temporary home..



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Jan 20, 2021 18:58:58   #
woodguru
 
Strycker wrote:
And yet, even with all the questionable voting irregularities in democrat strongholds, Biden only won by 48,000 votes in three states. Doesn't really square with your math analogy.


He won by hundreds of thousands (six figures) in states trump won by tens of thousands

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Jan 20, 2021 21:12:52   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
woodguru wrote:
He won by hundreds of thousands (six figures) in states trump won by tens of thousands


And he won by 48000 in three states combined that Trump won by hundreds of thousands. (six figures) What's your point?

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