Well I started this thread and maybe this will finish it. I have watched this almost uninterrupted from beginning to end. I just watched the last debate and even if the Republican objections for Pennsylvania were confirmed, others weren't and the election of Biden is now assured. God Help America. As for the storming of the Keep, or the Capital, I've heard and seen enough to believe that Antifa, dressed as Trump supporters were the cause of invading the Capital. Then for two hours I heard one after another of the Representatives call it insurrection and blaming President Trump. There were about a million Trump supporters there who were celebrating Trump and wanting to be there around the Capital to let the Representatives know that they weren't happy with the obvious steal of the election. They also wanted "Unity" that Biden called for. Something that wasn't granted for 4 years by Biden and his cohorts. Pathetic.

And the girl that was shot has died. That death is on those that actively took part in storming the Capital. And not the peaceful million who didn't storm the Capital.

Now for those damn Representatives and Senators. The Senators were gutless. Voting without debate or little debate. The Republicans were mostly gutless. Not signing up to protest the various states. For mostly voting against this vote fraud and the opportunity to correct it. The Democrats were gutless in voting party line votes. Controlled little puppets. Totally against the Constitution they just swore to uphold.

And the Representatives were almost as bad. At least a majority of Republicans voted to uphold the objections to Arizona and Pennsylvania, the only two states that were fully objected to. But as usual, the Democrats voted straight party line. Gutless. I can have no respect for the Democrat Party if they can't even come up with a small minority to stop the steal and protect our Constitution.

Now for the individuals. Did any of you who watched that piece of shitte debate ever see a bigger gathering of bull shitte liars and pompous asses in you life. How can we trust those pieces of shitte to lead America. What a pathetic bunch. ALL OF THEM.

May God help America

Logically Right

I never come at anyone unless they come at me or others first. 3rd law of physics is a bitch buddy,

As far as the rest of your post........NWR.

With one exception:

“So why did you assume the incident at the capital had anything to do with Trump supporters which were there being as peaceful as could be. And their record elsewhere is similar. As opposed to Antifa which has already been identified as being there crashing the door. Told to infiltrate the crowds and cause mayhem.”

Total BS. No assumption here, if you don’t believe the videos you are truly hopeless.

Trump calls for a rally of his far right crazies for today, speaks at the rally, urges people to keep fighting for him, then those people do his bidding and occupy the capital. And you think it was Antifa.

That’s the stupidest thing I have heard today.

To bad there is not a vaccine or drug available that treats stupidity cause you need it bad!

Then maybe wine or lemonade?

Right now I am just really pissed. Nobody has taken over our capital since 1814, and for what? The piece of crap Trump! Yeah that pisses me off more than I can adequately relate right now.

Confidence absolutely, overconfidence no.

Overconfidence on the fire line leads to death. Confidence leads to safety and operational stability and efficiency. No different than the military, which just happens to be what the wildland fire community was modeled after way back in 1910.

That makes two of us!
But don't put all the blame for this on Trump. Suddenly the media condemns those who breached the Capitol, as they should have. Biden calls for an end to the violence. Where were his calls to end the violence by Antifa and BLM last summer? The Supreme Court could have resolved this because it was a constitutional issue. They took the coward's way out. They didn't want Antifa coming to their homes and doing what they did to Josh Hawley. The Democrats are also responsible, especially the Squad, Pelosi, and Schumer, for the things they say. The media for the way they report and ignore other news. If they don't, then who? The legislature is responsible for making election law that was usurped by the rogue state judiciary and chief executive of PA in violation of the Constitution. What recourse is there other than the most deliberative body in the world having to pick up the pieces that others have abdicated as their responsibility to ensure honest elections.? Yes, this crap pisses me off also. I hope every idiot involved in breaching the Capitol building is brought to justice. I don't care who or which group they are with.

Lemonade or wine is EXCELLENT 🌞
I have a very different take on this. There is a very large and growing group of people in this country who are being frequently silenced, censored and targeted by the elite left. President Trump had 2 big draws in campaigning - he changed the entire narrative of the political circus of 2016 and talked about things that people were concerned with. And his America First platform for jobs and opportunity for Americans. He also did many great things while President, for instance holding drug companies' feet to the fire for charging far more for their products to Americans than are charged in other countries. But the election of President Trump was a symptom of the long time marginalization, denigration and ignoring the concerns of half the population (remember Obama with his "clings to their guns and bibles" trope?) The left's tacit approval of the rioting, looting, arson and assaults that have gone on for the past 8 years is unforgivable. Conservatives are not going away, and now they're beyond frustrated and angry, because after this election, and the Senate runoff with the identical tactics (Republicans are winning, we're going to stop counting now, and by 9am the Democrats are magically ahead) conservatives feel they have also lost their voice at the ballot box. I am one of these people.