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Jan 4, 2021 07:55:58   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
ACP45 wrote:
This was the statement issued by Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) late Friday, after a federal judge dismissed the lawsuit he and others filed against Vice President Mike Pence.

Can anyone tell me if any election fraud lawsuit brought by anyone, has actually been heard by a court, with evidence actually presented for any court to rule upon? The answer I believe is a definitive "NO".

Which brings up the the real issue of the legal process and the rule of law in this country. 70 million plus voters believe that there is ample evidence of voter fraud, and NO Court wants to hear the evidence.

Friends, we have a situation that is reaching the boiling point. Many people are waiting, and hoping that the legal process will resolve this issue peacefully. We are still waiting!
This was the statement issued by Rep. Louie Gohmer... (show quote)


Don’t hold your breath.

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Jan 4, 2021 07:58:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
kemmer wrote:
Nobody but Louie "The Lonestar Loon" Gohmert thought his idiotic lawsuit to make Pence a kingmaker was going anywhere but being laughed out of court.


You simply do not understand procedures and perfecting the record for appellate law...A good thing too..

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Jan 4, 2021 07:59:18   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
America 1 wrote:
What will you do with the money from selling that crystal ball?


Buy a mussel??

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Jan 4, 2021 08:03:02   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
kemmer wrote:
In over 50 court cases, no evidence has turned up. Because there ain't none.


Not true, because it was never introduced or allowed to be... The swamp runs deep!! And you became a part when you so uncaringly threw your rights and voting away..

Enjoy your 2021...

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Jan 4, 2021 09:37:52   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
[quote=jelun]I am guessing that just like Trump's campaign in court you are all supposition and no evidence.
Can you demonstrate facts that support your position?[/qu


This oughta do it for ya...

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Jan 4, 2021 21:02:38   #
SSDD
 
PeterS wrote:
Snip>>>As they frantically searched for ways to salvage President Donald Trump’s failed reelection bid, his campaign pursued a dizzying game of legal hopscotch across six states that centered on the biggest prize of all: Pennsylvania.

The strategy may have played well in front of television cameras and on talk radio to Trump’s supporters. But it has proved a disaster in court, where judges uniformly rejected their claims of vote fraud and found the campaign’s legal work amateurish.

In a scathing ruling late Saturday, U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann — a Republican and Federalist Society member in central Pennsylvania — compared the campaign’s legal arguments to “Frankenstein’s Monster,” concluding that Trump’s team offered only “speculative accusations,” not proof of rampant corruption.

The campaign on Sunday filed notice it would appeal the decision to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, a day before the state’s 67 counties are set to certify their results and send them to state officials. And they asked Sunday night for an expedited hearing Wednesday as they seek to amend the Pennsylvania lawsuit that Brann dismissed.


Now compound this by 53 and this is the reason that Trump lost all but one very minor case about where one can stand when viewing the handling of the ballots. Blade, this was the Keystone cops legal defense. Remember Melissa Carone? Rudy put her on the stand not once but on two separate days...as the star witness! Imagine, you have an absolute disaster that everyone is laughing at, and she's the best you have to put on the stand! That's the state of the case Rudy was arguing. And speaking of Rudy, he's the best you have for a lawyer and he's a total embarrassment. Does it really not sink in just how amateurish a legal defense Trump put together?

And I know not a single one of you can see this--all you can see are conspiracies in every court all across the country! From Nevada, to Arizona, to Wisconsin, to Michigan, to Pennsylvania, and ending in Georgia. Oh, and I left out the Pennsylvania appeals court and the United States Supreme Court! Your argument is that every one of them is corrupted by the Deep State, ruled by E-vile liberals, which somehow we were able to coordinate between all of these courts in order to squelch the rulings for Donald J Trump. Really???
b Snip>>>As they frantically searched fo... (show quote)


You don't actually think you will get through to him much less the rest of the Trumplicans here on OPP with logic and reason do you? It stands about as much of a chance to work as presenting facts, truth or reality to these Trumplicans, they have developed an immunity to all of that, none will get through, none will impact their "reality". A completely futile attempt.

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Jan 4, 2021 21:05:26   #
SSDD
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Massive evidences of fraud will be presented on the 5 contested states.
It was not a failed reelection bid. President Trump's victory was stolen by your communist-democrats, the last chance that the Deep State could succeed. For 4 years not been able to get him out after series of illegal processes. And now massive fraud introduced on his reelection bid, for this is the last chance to taking over power. Let us see what happens on Jan 6th till 20th. Will the ObamaGate and the Deep State criminals succeed?

The SC and the Judges' dereliction of duty, a gross violation of the constitution. They have turned tyrants. We will see how long they'll last.

Now, let us play chess where this is going.
==================== br i Massive evidences of fr... (show quote)


See PeterS? Proof positive of what I just said... Perhaps if you were to develop a CT showing how Trump lost fair and square you might find a way to convince these Trumplicans.

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Jan 4, 2021 21:13:17   #
SSDD
 
[quote=maximus][quote=jelun]I am guessing that just like Trump's campaign in court you are all supposition and no evidence.
Can you demonstrate facts that support your position?[/qu


This oughta do it for ya...[/quote]

Really? A video of a whack job Trumplican is proof that there was fraud? Hold on while I go out and find the dumbest person I can find and record a video, that should properly dispute your video.... Are you available to spew nonsense while I record my video?

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Jan 4, 2021 21:26:04   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
SSDD wrote:
Really? A video of a whack job Trumplican is proof that there was fraud? Hold on while I go out and find the dumbest person I can find and record a video, that should properly dispute your video.... Are you available to spew nonsense while I record my video?


You don't have to bother yourself with going out.

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Jan 4, 2021 23:36:50   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
SSDD wrote:
Really? A video of a whack job Trumplican is proof that there was fraud? Hold on while I go out and find the dumbest person I can find and record a video, that should properly dispute your video.... Are you available to spew nonsense while I record my video?


Doesn't matter who said it as long as it's true. Prove it's not true! If you can't then your ID says it all.

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Jan 5, 2021 00:17:37   #
SSDD
 
maximus wrote:
Doesn't matter who said it as long as it's true. Prove it's not true! If you can't then your ID says it all.


Not my job to prove it isn't true, it is you people that believe that it IS true that have the burden of proof. Those bringing a law suit have the burden of proving that their accusations are true, it is not the respondent's burden to prove they are false. What? Do you think that in a criminal proceeding that it is the defendant's job to prove they are innocent? For being the "law and order" party, you people know nothing of our legal system or our constitution. Good job proving that you people AREN'T the "law and order" party nor the party of strict adherence to the constitution.

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Jan 5, 2021 04:52:51   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
SSDD wrote:
Not my job to prove it isn't true, it is you people that believe that it IS true that have the burden of proof. Those bringing a law suit have the burden of proving that their accusations are true, it is not the respondent's burden to prove they are false. What? Do you think that in a criminal proceeding that it is the defendant's job to prove they are innocent? For being the "law and order" party, you people know nothing of our legal system or our constitution. Good job proving that you people AREN'T the "law and order" party nor the party of strict adherence to the constitution.
Not my job to prove it isn't true, it is you peopl... (show quote)




If you're going to use the justice system, then let's take a look.
You asked for proof and I gave you one example. You dismissed it out of hand as false. Since the burden of proof falls to the accuser, that makes ME the defendant. If you KNOW that the video I posted was false, then prove it because many believe it to be true with good reason.
Since you choose to take an insulting stance, then so will I.
You are oblivious to the rule of law and like any other liberal, want to rewrite the law to suite your immediate needs. Just like Pelosi said Trump had to prove his innocence, you want me to prove my evidence. That's not how it works. I DON'T HAVE to prove it's true, YOU have to prove it's false.
Good job showing your lack of knowledge of our justice system.
For one, this would be a civil matter, not criminal. Two, YOU are the plaintiff and I am the defendant.
Three, I advise you to never represent yourself in a court of law, because you don't know law!

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Jan 5, 2021 12:42:03   #
SSDD
 
maximus wrote:
If you're going to use the justice system, then let's take a look.
You asked for proof and I gave you one example. You dismissed it out of hand as false. Since the burden of proof falls to the accuser, that makes ME the defendant. If you KNOW that the video I posted was false, then prove it because many believe it to be true with good reason.
Since you choose to take an insulting stance, then so will I.
You are oblivious to the rule of law and like any other liberal, want to rewrite the law to suite your immediate needs. Just like Pelosi said Trump had to prove his innocence, you want me to prove my evidence. That's not how it works. I DON'T HAVE to prove it's true, YOU have to prove it's false.
Good job showing your lack of knowledge of our justice system.
For one, this would be a civil matter, not criminal. Two, YOU are the plaintiff and I am the defendant.
Three, I advise you to never represent yourself in a court of law, because you don't know law!
If you're going to use the justice system, then le... (show quote)


The inane ramblings of a moronic nut job is not proof of anything. And no, You are not the defendant other than the fact that you need to defend your assertion that there was election fraud as you claim, and I mean with evidence, not some moron, nut job Trumplican sitting in front of a camera making false claims, I don't care how good you thought you looked in that video. Come forth with REAL evidence or just stfu about it, if you can't prove you allegations, no point in making them is there?

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Jan 5, 2021 15:32:59   #
Radiance3
 
SSDD wrote:
See PeterS? Proof positive of what I just said... Perhaps if you were to develop a CT showing how Trump lost fair and square you might find a way to convince these Trumplicans.


=====================
See the million march supporting the president Jan 6th at the DC.

these are the 4 voters of the thief biden
these are the 4 voters of the thief biden...

millions of people support president trump
millions of people support president trump...

massive trump supporters
massive trump supporters...

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Jan 6, 2021 13:53:54   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
SSDD wrote:
The inane ramblings of a moronic nut job is not proof of anything. And no, You are not the defendant other than the fact that you need to defend your assertion that there was election fraud as you claim, and I mean with evidence, not some moron, nut job Trumplican sitting in front of a camera making false claims, I don't care how good you thought you looked in that video. Come forth with REAL evidence or just stfu about it, if you can't prove you allegations, no point in making them is there?



Read this s-l-o-w-l-y...YOU said show me proof. I said here is proof. YOU said it was false. The burden of proof falls on you...why? because you ain't no damn judge!
You're just another foul mouthed libtard full of piss.
Let's go back to the court room scenario. YOU have stated that my evidence is false. The judge says 'What proof do you have that the evidence presented is false?' You say 'Its false because I say so!' You'd be laughed out of the courtroom.
I'll give your side one thing though...there is SO much dishonesty in the Dumbocratic party that you have managed to bring America down in this election by destroying the faith of millions in our voting system. Y'all have really brought America out of the terrible state of the best economy ever, lowest unemployment for many races, more opportunity for all races and genders, better trade deals, less illegal immigration, and one of the most transparent administration's of ANY president. Congratulations!

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