nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert

What planet have you been living on? Election fraud happened . Voting machines were designed for a favored outcome and Hundreds of sworn affidavits have been collected all pointing out fraud or irregularities in this last election. Why wont they let the machines be inspected after the election. All data should be in them proving or disproving alleged election fraud. counting the same fraudulent ballots just gives the same fraudulent numbers. BUT QUIT saying No Proof . If you haven't seen it you ain't looking. Don't it concern you that these allegations aren't being taken seriously ?
It should.

kittykatt

On November 3, 2020, I saw the numbers go down by 20,000 votes, so don't tell me there wasn't any fraud. Are you honestly going to tell me that there wasn't any fraud? That I shouldn't believe what not only my eyes saw but that the announcers pointed out?

The temper tantrum is what the Democrats, led by Nancy Pelosi, did for the last four years.

When you get what you want, I hope that it is all that you wanted and that you can live with it.

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So a man takers a suitcase(which is really a box of mail in ballots that have been taken out of their envelopes but not counted) from under the table , There are 400000 in the box I'm making up numbers. Biden gets 280000 and Trump gets 120000 Boom 20000 difference Read this article on vote counts https://www.mprnews.org/story/2008/12/17/counting-ballots-man-vs-machine

kittykatt

That wasn't what happened. At one point when NBC was showing the numbers Trump had 790,000 votes. The next time NBC showed the numbers Trump's numbers were down to 770,000 votes.

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Wouldn't be the first time NBC made a mistake

2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland

Its really something that when I have asked numerous times why the progressives here on OPP why they hate President Trump, only a couple of them even bothered to answer. Even then, was still unable to decipher what their main beef was. But they at least bothered to respond so Kudos to them. So at this point the only honest reason I can come up with is that they maybe looking forward to a potential Socialist/Communistic way of governing for the rest of us that in no way shape or form want! What they seem to be asking for is their own demise with the rest of us going down with the ship.
Mike

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Trump came down his golden escalator and talked about Mexicans as rapist and thugs, maybe some good people. I count a few Mexicans as friends so I began to dislike Trump. Then he proceeded to make fun of his fellow Republicans who were running for the presidency. Evidently some of you like bullies who make fun of people. I don't; I thoroughly dislike such a person. During his rallies he encouraged violence and said journalists were enemies of the people. I don't condone violence, You chose him to be your nominee. During the campaign several Trump campaign members had conversations with Russian officials (See Mueller report) So with the help of Russia who hacked into Democratic files Trump was elected. He was barely in office when he enacted a ban people from some Muslim countries without warning causing chaos at airports around the world., He continued during his presidency to call people names and fire anyone who disagreed with him usually firing by tweet.
As to going down with the ship, why don't you wait and see.

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So much for a silent majority!

kittykatt

I think that the Silent Majority has been 'silent' long enough. It's time we said 'enough is enough' and did more than just vote and hope that the election is 'honest'. I'm not advocating that we riot and cause the same level and type of destruction that happened in 2020. We just need to act.
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Why would you take the word of Trump claiming fraud before the elections ever started rather than the word of election officials in 50 states, multiple judges who dismissed cases, the attorney general, the Supreme Court. The multiple allegations of fraud that are claimed by poll watchers are people pumped up by Trump rhetoric to see fraud under every rock.

kittykatt

Because of the track record of the Democrats and because Pelosi said that Trump would be ahead on election night but wouldn't win the election. And the fact that the Democrats are crooked. And because of the mail in votes. And because 60,000 voters were registered in both Arizona and California and voted in both states. I could continue but I think that you get the message.

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1. track record of Democrats???
2. Pelosi statement. It is commonly assumed that Republicans tend to vote on election day while Democrats are more likely to vote by mail. Mail-in votes in many states are not counted until in-person votes are counted. So it is likely that Trump votes will be in the lead on election night but mail-in votes will overtake his on the days after.
3. Democrats are crooked-False Some Democrats are crooked-True Republicans are crooked-False. Some Republicans are crooked-True. Logic 101
4. 60000 voters are registered in AZ and Cal. Prove that they voted in both states. I am registered in Arizona and Wisconsin. I voted in Wisconsin because I moved in June.
5. How likely is it that all 50 election officials got together and decided to say their election was fair even though poll watchers were claiming they had seen fraud. How likely is it that judges in over 50 cases would say there's not enough proof.
6. Why would AG Barr state that there was no evidence for widespread fraud. He had helped Trump in many ways before. Why change for this?

kittykatt

Why would the head of the Federal Election Commission state that there WAS fraud?

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All I found was that the FEC says there should be a commission to study the problems people are raising. i think it would be more profitable to have a public forum on national TV where people could bring their allegations and get answers from the election officials or whoever was in charge of the count. Let's have a demonstration of the machines. Let's see closeup how the mail-in ballots are processed. Have someone explain how the vote changed by 20000.If there is a reasonable explanation, fine. If not, who is guilty? There are way too many people who think the election was stolen to just let it ride. For 4 years our side was unhappy because we won the popular vote but not the electoral and there was Russian interference. We can't move on as a United country when so many people think it's unfair.

kittykatt

You are the first 'Democrat' who made valid points except for the Russian interference. But if there was Russian interference that points to a bigger problem. We need to have 'honest' elections and if there was Russian interference then an investigation needs to be started and come to an honest conclusion.

We the People need to take our government back from the special interest groups.