RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Not really, physics is what we use in day to day life, still that is not valid I suppose because most people aren't Physicists and not likely to be interested, you can ask the question "where did God come from?" (Paradigm Prophecies) same thing really.

People will always live in the past sentimentally, I guess, but it won't work for Civilization probably only for judgment which is the best God can do I suppose, but if you have got the capability to be a part of the intellectual present and ignore it, !! Oh my God - hell fire awaits, but I'm not judgmental, and I keep asking to have my fire lit, anyhow the difference between then and now is that the Bronze and Iron Ages happened and the Atomic and Post Atomic Ages were predicted by physics, sentiment caused the former while science caused the latter, where God came from is predicted by Theology anyone can be Jesus but I thought of it first and Mrs Jesus second whoever that is.

son of witless

Anytime someone lies to you, allegedly for your own good, they are disrespecting your intelligence or your character. You are either too stupid or too low in character to handle the truth. Not all of us are Obama/Hillary/Biden voters, that they can lie to us with impunity.

The long term problem is that the more your leaders lie to you the more you expect it, and the less you listen. Society and order breakdown and the only way for the government to maintain control is oppression, surveillance, and more lies. It was one of the main reasons for the Soviet collapse in 1991. Economically it is summed up in the phrase, " They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work. "

son of witless

Wouldn't it be Mrs. Christ ? Did they have any children ?

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Maybe I'm getting a bit too old for kids, actually I'm God's son right, it was a bit of a secret but I suppose there's nothing gained by holding it back, what happened in the beginning was something extra came out of the argument between Fate and Space bescides God it was me, because as Space my mom put it if we don't replace the failed Alien there will be no Dark Matter.

son of witless

You are too deep for me, and I am pretty deep myself. I refuse to splain deep on the grounds that I will incriminate myself.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

It's an acquired taste, being a hermit helps, I feel even with sport were at the end of an era, or maybe it's just changing the subject till we see what Trump does in about 4 weeks time.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

The problem is as you suggest, we have become accustomed to the lies and accept it as part of their character done with party leverage the object...We have become to dismissive of it all though and its time to truly hold these liars accountable.. Its no longer just a lie to further party agenda its a massive intentional fueled effort to reshape our country and its constitutional protections afforded the citizens that keep us a free Nation!!

Take a look at this article please... Have you or anyone else read of this study??I have not and wonder if killing this virus could really be this simple and if so why not already in use?? I mean its UV lighting contained to kill the germ not be ingested by humans other than perhaps a fine minute bit no more toxic than the bit we get from the sun...

Ultraviolet radiation is a common method of killing bacteria and viruses. Now, researchers from Tel Aviv University have proven that the novel coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, can be killed efficiently, quickly and cheaply using ultraviolet (UV) light-emitting diodes (UV-LEDs) at specific frequencies.
“We discovered that it is quite simple to kill the coronavirus using LED bulbs that radiate ultraviolet light,” said Prof. Hadas Mamane, head of the Environmental Engineering Program at Tel Aviv University's School of Mechanical Engineering, who led the study with Prof. Yoram Gerchman and Dr. Michal Mandelboim.

She said that the UV-LED bulbs require less than half a minute to destroy more than 99.9% of the coronaviruses.
The study is the first of its kind in the world. An article about it was published earlier this month in the Journal of Photochemistry and Photobiology B: Biology.

The Jerusalem Post has written about Mamane many times. She presented this summer at the Boris Mints Institute 2020 Research Conference on her involvement in the construction of a 30-meter "green wall" at the university, which is meant to create a sustainable ecosystem for waste, energy and water.
The wall is also meant to act as a living laboratory to analyze the uses of greywater (wastewater generated from sinks, showers, baths, and washing machines) in absorbing carbon dioxide, as well as the effects on heat transfer and energy generation within old buildings that are prevalent in urban settings.
At the beginning of the coronavirus crisis, her research team developed an Israeli, low-cost, decentralized, nonpolluting means of producing ethanol – and thereby an alcohol-based hand sanitizer – from plant-based waste, such as municipal and agricultural trim, straw and residual paper fibers.

UV-B and C radiation never really reaches humans naturally because these rays are absorbed by the earth’s ozone layer.
These ultraviolet wavelengths, which are what Tel Aviv researchers were examining, are especially effective in disinfection using UV-LED bulbs.
“We know, for example, that medical staff do not have time to manually disinfect, say, computer keyboards and other surfaces in hospitals – and the result is infection and quarantine,” said Mamane. “The disinfection systems based on LED bulbs, however, can be installed in the ventilation system and air conditioner, for example, and sterilize the air sucked in and then emitted into the room.”
She added that, "We are also developing, together with a scientist in North Western University a transparent coating that can be dipped or sprayed on surfaces and can kill viruses using visible light LEDs that are not dangerous and are used everywhere, providing another application for regular LEDs."
In her team’s research, they managed to kill the virus using cheaper and more readily available LED bulbs – 285 nm vs. 265 nm bulbs – which consume little energy and do not contain mercury like regular UV lamps.
She said that as the science develops, the industry will be able to make the necessary adjustments and install the bulbs in robotic systems, or air conditioning, vacuum and water systems, and thereby be able to efficiently disinfect large surfaces and spaces.
“Our research has commercial and societal implications,” Mamane said.
She added that her team had been working on UV-LEDs for a long time before coronavirus. But when COVID-19 surfaced, they tried to see if they could transfer their efforts to tackling the human coronavirus, studying the use of LEDs for killing corona at different frequencies.
She said the 285 nm LED is 15% to 30% less expensive and requires only a little more time to be effective.

son of witless

Solutions for disinfecting surfaces using UV light have been circulating for months. I am sure they work, but I have never believed that catching the Corona Virus from surfaces is the primary vector of it's spread. Some of the disinfecting procedures I have observed have seemed excessive and ludicrous. Over time I have also watched many of these practicing of these procedures being degraded.

I have always believed that the Israelis are pretty smart and if this kind of stuff was the solution they would be among the first to employ it effectively. I have not heard that Israel has conquered the virus. I believe the virus's main transmission is people to people and until enough people have either had the virus or been vaccinated so that the virus does not have fresh bodies to move into, we will continue to stay right where we are.


I think we need to think about several months from now. As vaccinations spread, the virus numbers should come down, but there will still be large numbers of Americans who will not get vaccinated, either through personal choice or because of allergies to the vaccines. If 50 % of Americans are vaccinated transmission numbers should drop and we could get to the point where effectively the virus ceases here.

My worry is that in other countries vaccinations could take another couple of years. I believe we will get to the point where the virus keeps getting reintroduced back into the US from other places, either from visitors or American travelers to those places bringing it back. They could also bring back mutated strains that start this whole pandemic all over again.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Thank You son for your valued opinion, exactly why I asked you if effective why not already in use by at least Israel who would want to capitalize on it..??? I knew you wouldn’t sugar coat it and tell me the truth..

Although if it works for surface and air transmission then something disinfectant wise is better than nothing.. I’m a Clorox wipe kinda gal everywhere and often but if air borne I’d invest in UV Synthesizers..If cost controlled of course..

We agree main transmission is people to people...One vaccine alone manufactured to counter this strain does not mean it will worm on another strain.. Much like the flu shots that are not all encompassing... Herd immunity is therefore very important imho. We have to build stronger levels naturally if we are to control it better than we are now. I believe in not having some people get it to build the antibody we are spinning a circle to the continuation of the virus...Again much like we’ve done numerous tomes with flu’s we encountered..

Have you or are you planning on getting the vaccine?? I am not.. For many personal reasons and lack of trust in what is coming out and it's known side effects to the body itself ( internal organs) listening to the medical professionals in my family, not just allergies etc ..

son of witless

I would have gotten the vaccine in the trials if they would have let me. I don't blame those who mistrust them, I had reactions to the flu vaccines until this year, when I was fine. I want the shots and a tattoo on my forehead that says I am vaccinated, so stick your masks where the sun doesn't shine.

I look at everything as a calculated risk. I have my phobias, but not with vaccines. God will take me out when he is ready. Until then I do not plan to worry about it. I spent my life worrying more about finances than dying.

Have a good New Year.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Its not good or bad to get it or not get it just a personal choice based on our own experiences..

I’m not afraid of dying at all. I’m just not ready yet.

Got too much left I want to do and want to see grandchildren when that happens..,😁😁😊

Wishing you a fantastic New Year filled with all your dreams accomplished. .

son of witless

Grandchildren make old age bearable. I have one. In America each generation seems to have less and less kids. My Paternal Grandparents had 7. My parents had 6 of us. My siblings and I each had two a piece. With very few exceptions the current generation of potential parents, for various reasons are not having children.

I hope you get one soon. I got to take my grandson fishing this summer and see him catch two big rainbow trout. A right of passage. My wife has to spend time with him and spoil him every few months or she gets impossible to be around.

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

I'm surprised that it has taken this long for someone to investigate the use of UV to fight covid. I remember a report from over 30 years ago that was bringing safe drinking water to remote villages. They were pumping the water through a chamber where the water was exposed to UV light. It killed the bacteria in the water to prevent diseases and seemed to work well if only on a smaller scale.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

My son has that mindset of finishing college, and then marry his girlfriend of 3 years.. He bought a home last year not liking throwing away his money on rent.. Then having 2 children.. Being an only child he wants two but no more and 3 years a part they say...

I can wait buttttttt .... lolol I understand your wife’s attitude...

Fishing and getting his first two trout!! An ever lasting memory made right there!!! Way to go grandpa...!!!!!

son of witless

Work called me that day and pleaded with me to come in when I was off, the money would have been good, but I was not going to get another chance last summer to take him fishing. My wife and daughter also each caught a trout. My job was to bait the hooks, take the fish off the hooks, pay for the fish, and then clean them. That was all I was good for.

I remembered my father taking my brother and me fishing to a pay lake when we were 4 and 5 years old. My brother filled up the bucket while I got skunked. Sibling rivalry was alive and well and I was not a happy camper. Then I caught a fish twice the size of any fish my brother caught that day. The one time I out did my old brother back then. That memory never went away.

You must seize those moments with your kids and grandkids. Once they are gone, you don't get them back.

One pitfall of being a grandparent. You are in competition with the other grandparents. My wife goes crazy if the other grandmother spends more time with him and posts pictures. Sounds stupid, but it is real.