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OPP Poll......Should President Trump get credit for Operation Warp Speed ?
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Dec 25, 2020 11:28:45   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
proud republican wrote:
You do too,Bernie!!!! And happy New Year to you and yours!!


Thank you. You too.

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Dec 25, 2020 18:32:24   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/12/21/biden-some-democrats-say-trump-administration-deserves-credit-for-vaccine-rollout/?sh=426bc5a343f6

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Dec 25, 2020 20:37:54   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
The Pfizer vaccine, which was the first developed in the US was not part of operation warp speed. If Trump would have kept us in the WHO and cooperated with and shared information with other nations it is very likely the vaccine would have been developed even faster saving thousands of lives. Trumps legacy is simply that his lack of leadership during the pandemic further divided the nation and killed Americans at a rate greater than any other nation in the world.
Based on case fatality rate and deaths per 100,000, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Peru, San Marino, Andorra, North Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, United Kingdom, Montenegro, and Argentina all recorded higher fatalities per 100,000 than the US.

With a case fatality rate of 29.1%, Yemen holds a record that far exceeds the case fatality rate of the next highest - Mexico (9.2%), Ecuador (6.9%), Sudan (6.4%), Bolivia (6.1%), Egypt (5.7%), Syria (5.6%), Liberia (5.0%), and Afghanistan (4.1%).

The case fatality rate in the US is 1.9%.

Operation Warp Speed fact sheet

July 22: HHS announced up to $1.95 billion in funds to Pfizer for the large-scale manufacturing and nationwide distribution of 100 million doses of their vaccine candidate. The federal government will own the 100 million doses of vaccine initially produced as a result of this agreement, and Pfizer will deliver the doses in the United States if the product successfully receives FDA EUA or licensure, as outlined in FDA guidance, after completing demonstration of safety and efficacy in a large Phase 3 clinical trial, which began July 27th.

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Dec 26, 2020 02:03:09   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
More logical fallacies, hey, Pete?

President Trump couldn't be bothered so he organized a massive cooperative effort to produce an effective vaccine for a lethal virus in record time. In a process that normally takes 10 years, OWS did it in less than one year.

Thank God in heaven not one democrat had anything to do with this. I shudder to think what our situation would be if Hillary was running the show.

BTW: President Trump announced OWS last May.

More logical fallacies? Do you think I'm trying to emulate you? As for Trump--it was the pharmaceutical industry that came through, not Trump. Trump's contribution will leave us with 400,000 dead by the time Biden is sworn-in in less than a month.

And what's the significance of May? Wasn't it April when Trump said the virus was going to "magically" disappear? So Trump, realizing that he blew a full month decided to get off his ass a do what he should have done a couple of months earlier? Is that what's you're trying to tell me because that's the reality of his actions.

Trump doesn't give a flip about this country or the people in it. To Trump, COVID destroyed his chance at reelection and that's all he knows about it. That's because he has no clue how to actually lead people. He knows hyperbole and how to blow it out his ass but he couldn't bullshit his way out of this one so he was sunk and he knew it. And the saddest thing is all the death that resulted because of it. Of course, you people sit there and covered up his sorry ass. You conservatives developed an entire industry around covering for Trump's mistakes. That's something we didn't need to do with Obama nor, I might add, will we need to do it with Biden either.

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Dec 26, 2020 04:54:30   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
More logical fallacies? Do you think I'm trying to emulate you? As for Trump--it was the pharmaceutical industry that came through, not Trump. Trump's contribution will leave us with 400,000 dead by the time Biden is sworn-in in less than a month.

And what's the significance of May? Wasn't it April when Trump said the virus was going to "magically" disappear? So Trump, realizing that he blew a full month decided to get off his ass a do what he should have done a couple of months earlier? Is that what's you're trying to tell me because that's the reality of his actions.

Trump doesn't give a flip about this country or the people in it. To Trump, COVID destroyed his chance at reelection and that's all he knows about it. That's because he has no clue how to actually lead people. He knows hyperbole and how to blow it out his ass but he couldn't bullshit his way out of this one so he was sunk and he knew it. And the saddest thing is all the death that resulted because of it. Of course, you people sit there and covered up his sorry ass. You conservatives developed an entire industry around covering for Trump's mistakes. That's something we didn't need to do with Obama nor, I might add, will we need to do it with Biden either.
More logical fallacies? Do you think I'm trying to... (show quote)
You should stop lying to yourself, man.

I mean, fer crying out loud, you are living a lie.

And, you have a really nasty way of showing it.

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Dec 26, 2020 06:14:18   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
PeterS wrote:
More logical fallacies? Do you think I'm trying to emulate you? As for Trump--it was the pharmaceutical industry that came through, not Trump. Trump's contribution will leave us with 400,000 dead by the time Biden is sworn-in in less than a month.

And what's the significance of May? Wasn't it April when Trump said the virus was going to "magically" disappear? So Trump, realizing that he blew a full month decided to get off his ass a do what he should have done a couple of months earlier? Is that what's you're trying to tell me because that's the reality of his actions.

Trump doesn't give a flip about this country or the people in it. To Trump, COVID destroyed his chance at reelection and that's all he knows about it. That's because he has no clue how to actually lead people. He knows hyperbole and how to blow it out his ass but he couldn't bullshit his way out of this one so he was sunk and he knew it. And the saddest thing is all the death that resulted because of it. Of course, you people sit there and covered up his sorry ass. You conservatives developed an entire industry around covering for Trump's mistakes. That's something we didn't need to do with Obama nor, I might add, will we need to do it with Biden either.
More logical fallacies? Do you think I'm trying to... (show quote)



Pete, you're making one huge mistake, not unlike your partners in crime, the other libs. You make the mistake of thinking you are dealing with morons and just referring to them as morons is not going to make it the truth. We can read the time line of the virus and Trump's actions as well as anybody, maybe better. We have an open mind as to cause and effect. We can read fan reaction in rallies of Trump vs Biden. We can add. We know enough about statistics and probability to know a scam when we see it. In short, we can analyze a situation without the help of bevy of name calling dunces trying to preach untruths. We also know how to find out the real news and truth. In short, you're letting your leftist bias rule your thought process. It would be helpful if the left would be amenable to reason and learning, but, alas, I really don't think it's going to happen.

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Dec 26, 2020 06:36:34   #
American Vet
 
PeterS wrote:
More logical fallacies? Do you think I'm trying to emulate you? As for Trump--it was the pharmaceutical industry that came through, not Trump. Trump's contribution will leave us with 400,000 dead by the time Biden is sworn-in in less than a month. .


President Trump's Operation Warp Speed was a success. To say it was Big Pharm and and that President Trump had nothing to do with it is simply you not wanting to credit anything good to the President - that is illogical.

Do you think Big Pharm could have accomplished the task in the time they did without government support? Of course not.

And you comment about 400,000 dead is also in the same vein. It is sad that you are consumed by such irrational hatred.

"OWS is a partnership among components of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), and the Department of Defense (DoD)."

https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/explaining-operation-warp-speed/index.html

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Dec 26, 2020 07:21:28   #
silvereagle
 
PeterS.Trying to blame 400,000 lives on Trump is false and you know it.You forgot to mention piglosi dancing in the streets saying all is well.Hell she helped spred the virus.

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Dec 26, 2020 10:26:35   #
bahmer
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you guys remember when lame MSM said that it would take a miracle for President Trump get vaccines done in less than 1 year.. Well President Trump made miracle happen . ..Shouldn't MSM apologize for being an assholes to this President ?? ....Operation Warp Speed under President Trump will save millions of lives ! !!This will be President Trump's legacy and no matter how much you hate him,you won't take THIS LEGACY away from him!!


Amen and Amen

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Dec 26, 2020 10:45:58   #
Dwbill Loc: Sunvalley,NV
 
American Vet wrote:
So let me get this straight:

Something bad happens on Trump’s watch - it’s his fault.

Something good happens on Trump’s watch - he had nothing to do with it.

Liberal illogic at its finest.

You got that Rite !!! Thanks to the Fake media !!! And all the lies ,about the best president we've ever had !!!!!Now there going to take all the good away ,and replace it with the bad all-over again ,!!!!!!!!

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Dec 26, 2020 12:26:26   #
rebelwidacoz Loc: Illinois
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you guys remember when lame MSM said that it would take a miracle for President Trump get vaccines done in less than 1 year.. Well President Trump made miracle happen . ..Shouldn't MSM apologize for being an assholes to this President ?? ....Operation Warp Speed under President Trump will save millions of lives ! !!This will be President Trump's legacy and no matter how much you hate him,you won't take THIS LEGACY away from him!!


First of all what kind of miracle did he did he perform ; did he walk on water ,did he rise from the dead ,did he himself create the vaccine , or did he simply commission Moderna or Pfizer with the incentive of money to find the solution to the problem - why should the press apologize for doing what the framers intended MSM to do -after all what are the first words of the first amendment "Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press" - why would in affording its patrons freedom of speech ,would they specifically mention the press regarding the right of having free speech more so than the individual - their job is to report how the leaders are administering and if it is done in the correct manner consistent with those concepts that are in adherence to the Ideas of liberty and democracy ; If they perceived Trump to be unfit to be the President of the United States it was their duty to alert the people as to his ineptitude and incompetence -every right thinking intelligent person [with the exception of approximately 74 million individuals could see this ] knew he wasn't qualified intellectually to be president nor
was he qualified academically to be president

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Dec 26, 2020 12:26:53   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Of course trump should take credit also I heard on OAN Rudy Giuliani is going to announce the big ball up so watch Monday Tuesday this coming week and see

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Dec 26, 2020 12:28:16   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Joe Biden is gonna be the 1 unfit for president so watch out Monday and Tuesday Rudy Giuliani said that the big blow up is going to happen

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Dec 26, 2020 12:29:46   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Rudy Giuliani said on OAN that Monday and Tuesday the big blow up is going to happen and the truth is gonna come out and the stupid fake news media is gonna be probably crawling under rocks

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Dec 26, 2020 12:32:02   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
proud republican wrote:
Do you guys remember when lame MSM said that it would take a miracle for President Trump get vaccines done in less than 1 year.. Well President Trump made miracle happen . ..Shouldn't MSM apologize for being an assholes to this President ?? ....Operation Warp Speed under President Trump will save millions of lives ! !!This will be President Trump's legacy and no matter how much you hate him,you won't take THIS LEGACY away from him!!


Their hate runs deep because of all the things he accomplished in spite of them anyway... This just the amazement of another accomplishment they can jot dismiss~~ Karma is a wonderful bitch at times.... ✨👏🏻✨👏🏻✨

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