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Dec 25, 2020 13:38:07   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
lindajoy wrote:
Hello RT... No. I had not heard this story before and thank you for sharing it..

Almost sounds like where we are headed as a world in thought and absence of the (food) love, care, motivation, sharing etc that we need to sustain ourself lest we start salivating and begin to feel morally inept or loved..

Millions of dogs slaughtered? Really?? How horrible all in the name of science..

Science is a necessary constant if we are to push the human race forward..Without it where would we truly be??

But science manipulation we can and should do without.. Also scientist to cave to the whims or falsehood of politics is not science it is calculated redress to pacify or manipulated falsehoods and that is unacceptable...It leaves the realm and purpose of “ science” and becomes a calculated inconclusive finding... The internet has given us a vast internal memory bank and our own ability to “ research.”” We are far from the idiots governments world wide want its citizens to be!
Hello RT... No. I had not heard this story before ... (show quote)


Merry Christmas lindajoy, I was only joking about Genghis Khan, animal rights' activists brought that stuff about Pavlov's Dog to our attention now they seem to be sticking up for Donald Trump, I don't know what to make of it.


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Dec 25, 2020 21:16:06   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
RT friend wrote:
Fair enough no replies to my post, anyhow don't worry about that one I got something better, it's not about Politicians intervening in medical developments it's God.

Just posted on the history show "Kings and Generals" 2 days ago describing how the volcanic eruption in Indonesia, 1256 or thereabouts, sent more pollutants into the atmosphere that any other volcanic eruption in the past 7,000 years.

Now this for sure exacerbated the civil wars in the Mongol Empire by causing cholera, I am convinced this is a true account and has only recently been revealed.

How God got-away with influencing history when He's prohibited from causing History is down to the Paradigm Prophecies, which also account for the Covid Pandemic that is a contemporary historical feature that no bitching can diminish, .

So what's with God wanting to interrupt President Trump's Politics, humm , !!! maybe ask yourselves where Ghenhis Khan went wrong.

Kings and Generals latest upload 2 days ago "Did a volcano end the Mongol Empire".
Fair enough no replies to my post, anyhow don't wo... (show quote)


You say~~” How God got-away with influencing history when He's prohibited from causing History is down to the Paradigm Prophecies, which also account for the Covid Pandemic that is a contemporary historical feature that no bitching can diminish,” .

God did not influence anything, he gave us free will and choice and it is we, whom made those choices suffering or benefitting from them..Nor is He prohibited from anything in my opinion.. He is the all things and knows all before it takes place.. The keeper of our err..The forgiver of our sins hoping we ultimately chose His way but not prohibiting even our own choice(s)..

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Dec 25, 2020 21:19:00   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
America 1 wrote:
Merry Christmas


A special and warm Merry Christmas to you America 1...
So enjoy reading your posts and find them thought provoking!!! Thank You for sharing as you do...☃️🎄🎅🏻

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Dec 25, 2020 21:24:47   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Kickaha wrote:
Thank you and Merry Christmas to you and yours. Unfortunately, with the family scattered and far away and the covid restrictions, I will just be hugging my wife's memory and remembering our love.


Then you are in the best company!! God Bless and watch over you always...

I’m giving you a virtual hug!!!



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Dec 25, 2020 21:42:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
son of witless wrote:
I wonder if hospitals get more money if deaths can be linked to the Corona Virus ?


Some information you may wish to consider... Having already read on the issues raised here make no doubt there is rampit charges daily from many facilities who know how to game the system especially in Medicare..I’m sute you have heard this before.

Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

He noted that some states, including his home state of Minnesota, as well as California, list only laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 diagnoses. Others, specifically New York, list all presumed cases, which is allowed under guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as of mid-April and which will result in a larger payout.

Jensen said he thinks the overall number of COVID-19 cases have been undercounted based on limitations in the number of tests available.

Provision in the relief act
The coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients.

Jensen did not return an email request from USA TODAY for comment about his claim.

USA TODAY reached out to Marty Makary, a surgeon and professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, about the claim. Makary said in an email April 21 that "what Scott Jensen said sounds right to me."

Makary did not elaborate, answer additional questions or respond to a request for an interview.

USA TODAY reached out to the American Hospital Association and Federation of American Hospitals on April 22, but as of publication had not received a response.

How does Medicare pay?
Snopes investigated the claim, finding it's plausible Medicare pays in the range Jensen mentions but doesn't have a "one-size-fits-all" payment to hospitals for COVID-19 patients.

As explained by nurse Elizabeth Davis in her piece for verywellhealth.com, each hospital has a base payment rate assigned by Medicare. It takes into account nationwide and regional trends, including labor costs and varying health care resources in each market. (Snip)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3000638001

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Dec 25, 2020 21:51:25   #
son of witless
 
lindajoy wrote:
Some information you may wish to consider... Having already read on the issues raised here make no doubt there is rampit charges daily from many facilities who know how to game the system especially in Medicare..I’m sute you have heard this before.

Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

He noted that some states, including his home state of Minnesota, as well as California, list only laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 diagnoses. Others, specifically New York, list all presumed cases, which is allowed under guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as of mid-April and which will result in a larger payout.

Jensen said he thinks the overall number of COVID-19 cases have been undercounted based on limitations in the number of tests available.

Provision in the relief act
The coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients.

Jensen did not return an email request from USA TODAY for comment about his claim.

USA TODAY reached out to Marty Makary, a surgeon and professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, about the claim. Makary said in an email April 21 that "what Scott Jensen said sounds right to me."

Makary did not elaborate, answer additional questions or respond to a request for an interview.

USA TODAY reached out to the American Hospital Association and Federation of American Hospitals on April 22, but as of publication had not received a response.

How does Medicare pay?
Snopes investigated the claim, finding it's plausible Medicare pays in the range Jensen mentions but doesn't have a "one-size-fits-all" payment to hospitals for COVID-19 patients.

As explained by nurse Elizabeth Davis in her piece for verywellhealth.com, each hospital has a base payment rate assigned by Medicare. It takes into account nationwide and regional trends, including labor costs and varying health care resources in each market. (Snip)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3000638001
Some information you may wish to consider... Havin... (show quote)


It is what I intuitively believed, but I did not have proof.

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Dec 25, 2020 22:01:53   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
I have five doctors in my family and Director of nursing as a client. some say there is some sort of reimbursement for Covid expenses.


I also have a family full of nurses and a Dr. who share enough in “even the wording of reports, meds, and anything lung related when reporting treatment, complications etc... “ While they don’t know why specifically they are of the opinion it is for billable later.. Altho, my Uncle the dr. has a very pointed view of the fraud and incentives that ultimately feed the medical profession in whole.. He detests making him a party to it all..

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Dec 25, 2020 22:07:05   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
son of witless wrote:
It is what I intuitively believed, but I did not have proof.


It’s not exactly something they want the general public/patient at hand to know... Borders on them being incentivized for diagnoses, treatment etc..

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Dec 25, 2020 22:33:27   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Now for another Shock~~ no, not really if you have followed Fauci at all in any of the mess he has created in this covid manipulation!!

He now admits he lied< incentively to get more people to immunize?? As if we did not or do not know this already...

The brazen little hussy of a man should be flocked, tarred and stripped of anything to do with giving recommendations let alone be heading up anything!!

DECEMBER 24, 2020
NYT: Fauci admits to deceiving the public about herd immunity because he wanted more people to get vaccinated..
Fauci apparently thinks it's appropriate to deceive the public for their own good.. ~~

Whose good??? Their own, yes, not ours..What do the rest of other countries know of this and what is their opinion?? Can this little man and his warped reasoning be believed especially given his high guessing games of how to handle this virus??

I’ll repeat does he get credit simply because he oversaw the real researchers and just exactly what was his experience again on his only claim to fame, the Aides issue??

Just exactly how desensitized have we become?? Are we really the idiots they try to convince us of being??? I think not~~

In a startling interview with the New York Times, Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the government's coronavirus taskforce, admitted that he did not level with the American people about how many people would need to be vaccinated in order to achieve herd immunity because he didn't think the public was ready to hear his true thoughts, which he feared might discourage people from getting vaccinated.

The Times article catalogued Dr. Fauci's changing position on how many Americans would need to be vaccinated, which he initially stated would be 60-70 percent. As noted by the Times, about a month ago, Fauci's tune began to change and he suggested that the figure was actually 70-75 percent. Last week, in an interview with CNBC, he upped that figure (again) to "75 to 80-plus percent." In the interview with the Times, he changed his estimate yet again and suggested that the figure actually may be "close to 90 percent."
<Snip>More to read...

What can we believe of our esteemed advisors?? Im glad 2020 is ending and my 2021 will be doing as I believe not dictated to by the inane political hounds trying to
Persuade us to follow them to the gallows~~ when hell freezes over darlin!!!😉

https://www.theblaze.com/news/ready-nyt-fauci-admits-to-deceiving-the-public-about-herd-immunity-because-he-wanted-more-people-to-get-vaccinated

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Dec 26, 2020 06:05:09   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
lindajoy wrote:
You say~~” How God got-away with influencing history when He's prohibited from causing History is down to the Paradigm Prophecies, which also account for the Covid Pandemic that is a contemporary historical feature that no bitching can diminish,” .

God did not influence anything, he gave us free will and choice and it is we, whom made those choices suffering or benefitting from them..Nor is He prohibited from anything in my opinion.. He is the all things and knows all before it takes place.. The keeper of our err..The forgiver of our sins hoping we ultimately chose His way but not prohibiting even our own choice(s)..
You say~~” How God got-away with influencing histo... (show quote)


Well actually there is a parallel rationalisation of these Theological question in contemporary physics and is proven by the products we use and the explosions we can make splitting atoms, laser beams and iPhones.

Einstein was not impressed with the idea that one particle can influence it's counterpart from a distance, and said this idea was spooky, he couldn't account for substance without mass except by saying everything is predetermined as in the Theological assertion of predestination, God controlls everything.

The only other alternative to Einstein's fundamental belief is that our free will causes entangled particles to have a specific quality only after we interact with them, so our conception causes outcome and substance only to the extent which has been established to a lesser extent recently.

Bringing up free will is agreeing with me, you must be an Idealist, most Theologians are, the way we're communicating now is just further proof of Idealism and Quantum Field Theory is the other, mass only exists in waves it manifests a concrete substance (Higgs boson) which immediately disappears.

But why can't we agreed to imagine something far out to be real, how about a teleport machine, maybe shaped like a public phone box, they all disappeared, where did they go? Did they teleport to another Galaxy ?, No they didn't not because we couldn't agree on us flying off that way, maybe it was because no-one was convinced and so didn't try to convince others, most likely it was because even if we were convinced it still wouldn't work as there is nothing in the past that would lead to flying phone boxes.

That's why I introduced the Paradigm Prophecies where entanglement first was qualified by recognition when God's hands were tied, what happened was He couldn't just make it all up as though it had happened already because there was two principal players who wanted two different things, God had to compromise, Space wanted something and Fate was happy with nothing which is interesting only if you've got nothing to do which suited Fate.

However major events do happen according to predetermined understanding, the end of the Dinosaur's just when the atmosphere was appropriate for mammals.

Talking about something influences that something in the same way as measuring causes validity and 65 million years ago the people from previous universes measured all the factors governing life on Earth put it to God and He said be and an asteroid became, had it hit in the oceans the Dinosaurs would still be here and we would be small mammals living in trees that was an instance of predestination arrived at by consensus.


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Dec 26, 2020 07:28:41   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
drlarrygino wrote:
These leftist fools are watering down the M.D. degree. Now when you hear Doctor, it is associated with quack, snake oil salesman and buffoon. Sounds exactly what we think of when we hear of anyone being a politician. Dr Fauxci is a power hungry fraud.


That he is! Saw where he got his shot in the left arm, but later on tv, rubbing his right arm, he is a money hungry fake!

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Dec 26, 2020 07:31:58   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
lindajoy wrote:
She’s no doctor in any capacity, literacy doctor??? Does she teach reading ???

For she its all about title...” an Ed.D., a doctor of education, earned at the University of Delaware through a dissertation with the unpromising title “Student Retention at the Community College Level”. So it is said~~

Haven’t checked her out, don’t care to... She threw her dwarfed husband under the bus all in the name of “ title”..Have no respect for her..


👍👍👍👍

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Dec 26, 2020 10:23:29   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
RT friend wrote:
Well actually there is a parallel rationalisation of these Theological question in contemporary physics and is proven by the products we use and the explosions we can make splitting atoms, laser beams and iPhones.

Einstein was not impressed with the idea that one particle can influence it's counterpart from a distance, and said this idea was spooky, he couldn't account for substance without mass except by saying everything is predetermined as in the Theological assertion of predestination, God controlls everything.

The only other alternative to Einstein's fundamental belief is that our free will causes entangled particles to have a specific quality only after we interact with them, so our conception causes outcome and substance only to the extent which has been established to a lesser extent recently.

Bringing up free will is agreeing with me, you must be an Idealist, most Theologians are, the way we're communicating now is just further proof of Idealism and Quantum Field Theory is the other, mass only exists in waves it manifests a concrete substance (Higgs boson) which immediately disappears.

But why can't we agreed to imagine something far out to be real, how about a teleport machine, maybe shaped like a public phone box, they all disappeared, where did they go? Did they teleport to another Galaxy ?, No they didn't not because we couldn't agree on us flying off that way, maybe it was because no-one was convinced and so didn't try to convince others, most likely it was because even if we were convinced it still wouldn't work as there is nothing in the past that would lead to flying phone boxes.

That's why I introduced the Paradigm Prophecies where entanglement first was qualified by recognition when God's hands were tied, what happened was He couldn't just make it all up as though it had happened already because there was two principal players who wanted two different things, God had to compromise, Space wanted something and Fate was happy with nothing which is interesting only if you've got nothing to do which suited Fate.

However major events do happen according to predetermined understanding, the end of the Dinosaur's just when the atmosphere was appropriate for mammals.

Talking about something influences that something in the same way as measuring causes validity and 65 million years ago the people from previous universes measured all the factors governing life on Earth put it to God and He said be and an asteroid became, had it hit in the oceans the Dinosaurs would still be here and we would be small mammals living in trees that was an instance of predestination arrived at by consensus.

Well actually there is a parallel rationalisation ... (show quote)


Interesting fields touching upon Paradigm Prophecies and Quantum Physics.

To me Paradigm prophecies is a beautiful offering that points toward the deep Spiritual Being we humans are all endeavouring to remember or recreate..Forgiveness and freedom the learned or earned result to at least a better understanding of self resilience...Our wholeness, if you will...

All fascinating none that can be verified as in physics itself is to question..Where one thing is surmised many more will follow.. It is~~ that infinite wisdom that stirs and never fulfills lest it all fade away....

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Dec 26, 2020 10:26:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
That he is! Saw where he got his shot in the left arm, but later on tv, rubbing his right arm, he is a money hungry fake!


Reminds me of Pelosi’s shot with the cap still over the needle when supposedily being injected...One of those classic “ hypocrisy exposed or out and out fraud in misleading the mass intentionally...

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Dec 26, 2020 12:27:50   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
lindajoy wrote:
Reminds me of Pelosi’s shot with the cap still over the needle when supposedily being injected...One of those classic “ hypocrisy exposed or out and out fraud in misleading the mass intentionally...


Exactly!

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