The end is near (Page 3): Awe, my special friend, Grateful to know you.. I’m with you on what is happening within our country but I continue to maintain faith in it, realizing she’s...

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

JFlorio wrote:

Beautiful LJ. As you are. I wish I could separate myself from what I see happening in this country. I'm just not made that way, even though I can personally profit greatly off the chaos. If the weather down here would turn around and let me get into the water again for a good day, week, month of fishing I could chill. You stay safe and happy.

Awe, my special friend, Grateful to know you..

I’m with you on what is happening within our country but I continue to maintain faith in it, realizing she’s over 240 years old now and has withstood much more.

Also, politics will always be what they are and we will always do what we can do...Voice our opinion, concern and hope. Stand against those whom look to bring her to rubbles...Within that we reinforce what this country stands for, the freedom on which it came, and the liberties guaranteed!!

I’ve come to the conclusion we simply need to get rid of the politicians, and not just about voting in anyone for a political reason but only those who stand to represent the constitution, the We the People..Just like we try to do now but it doesn’t just stop with our vote, we then must dog their every move.. They do everything they stood for and if it is against why we voted them in, then by God, we take the targeted opportunity to take them out, either through ousting, recall, demanding resignation etc.. We get what we allow and we have allowed far too much~~✨💕

Wouldn’t give him the opportunity to see such as I posted in my picture, believe me, you feel nothing but gratitude, thankfulness, and love.

You definitely need a bit of time for some fishing, and when you do you feel the burden of your unhappiness slip away from you just like the water encircling you in energy and gifting you with the love and happiness you so well deserve..

How we live our life is our choice and there is nothing more than to live it in love, achieving your goals, and knowing you are perfect just the way you are. You are you know!

https://youtu.be/XN4nzZbUnQc

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

permafrost wrote:

while I am not of that lefty position as you see it, I do think the electoral college needs to go..

The reasons for the use of the EC no longer exist and have given us negative results with 2 of the last 4 presidents..

But has to be done carefully..

Intriguing! Tell me more! By carefully, do you mean with consideration for everyone's one-person-one-vote voting rights or, carefully snookering the public into believing that the EC will represent the tyrannous majority? I see the Electoral college as a safeguard against a few populous states having complete control over the election and disenfranchising rural communities and small states. Why would anyone running for President travel to rural small states for a campaign if their votes won't matter? Like Minnesota, for example. Let CA, NY, Fl, dictate to the rest of the country?

What were the negative results, other than your side lost fair and square? How about considering term limits for SCOTUS. How about repealing the 17th Amendment and let state legislatures select their U.S. Senators, thus returning some plenary powers to the states. Although the SCOTUS basically told the states that they can now do whatever they want to do in elections because they failed to hear the Pennsylavia case that disenfranchised every voter in that state.

Dwbill Loc: Sunvalley,NV

Wolfman888 wrote:

Ummm, no he does not.

And he will have no power at all after January 20th.

No power anyone has will keep him out of prison.

Wow how old are you !!! 3 every Damn Election it's oh he is going to prison !!!!!! How many times have you seen a President go to Prison????I've lived through 13 presidents and have yet to see one even closely go to prison ,So keep up your wishful thinking !!!!!
No Damn Way "get it"

Alber

lindajoy wrote:

Frank Sinatra~~ rules.. All of them in the rat pack do.... My dad listened to them a lot.. Dean Martin most though..

For you....

https://youtu.be/w019MzRosmk

For my Father~~

https://youtu.be/mN7LW0Y00kE

Thank you Linda. They were all good singers. Nat King Cole was another very good one.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Wolfman888 wrote:

Ummm, no he does not.

And he will have no power at all after January 20th.

No power anyone has will keep him out of prison.

The power to pre-emptively pardon. Here's one scenario, although it won't be needed because Trump won't be jailed... Trump resigns the day before his term is up and VP Pence is sworn into office. Then Pence issues a blanket pardon to Trump for anything he may have done in the past or while in office. This is the way a leftist would approach the problem with a solution.

Good luck with putting Trump in prison. Ain't gonna happen!

PeterS

Grugore wrote:

Trump has spent the last four years out foxing liberals at every turn. You think you've finally got him? Fools.

We didn't get him, the electorial college is what did him in...

PeterS

dtucker300 wrote:

The power to pre-emptively pardon. Here's one sce... (show quote)

Most of the charges against Trump are from the state and a federal pardon has no power over state charges and rotting in a state jail is much better than a federal prison where he would be pampered and allowed to do anything he wanted.

PeterS

Dwbill wrote:

Wow how old are you !!! 3 every Damn Election it's oh he is going to prison !!!!!! How many times have you seen a President go to Prison????I've lived through 13 presidents and have yet to see one even closely go to prison ,So keep up your wishful thinking !!!!!
No Damn Way "get it"

I don't think any president has had the level of charges awaiting him as has Donald J Trump has. He may not go to prison but every penny he's been given will be needed to fight the charges against him. It's hard to run for president when you are busy spending all of your money and time trying to stay out of jail.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-new-york-campaign-finance-cyrus-vance-jr-manhattan-f841d62dbf6d1a8ba2949bc577858f6e
https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/new-york-city/trumps-potential-new-york-legal-woes.html
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/donald-trump-criminal-case.html
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/news/2020/11/10/as-the-end-nears-for-trump--legal-battles-await-in-new-york

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

PeterS wrote:

Most of the charges against Trump are from the state and a federal pardon has no power over state charges and rotting in a state jail is much better than a federal prison where he would be pampered and allowed to do anything he wanted.

True about the pardons. The rest, we will see. The left is much better at being vengeful and vindictive and ruthless.

Wickedestoldwolf

PeterS wrote:

We understand the electoral college though and that having reached safe harbor Trump is running out of legal loopholes to jump through. You are welcome to pretend all you like but he lost and it's been confirmed by the vote count and the electoral college count. You've got nothing more than your folly. I hope it keeps you entertained but it won't elect you a president...

Is this the same electorial college you all were wanting to get rid of last time around. Funny. You libs want to get rid of cops till you need one. You wanna get rid of the electorial college when they didn't do your bidding but it's a whole different story now. What a bunch of hypocrites you are and blind to boot.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

dtucker300 wrote:

Intriguing! Tell me more! By carefully, do you me... (show quote)

tucker,,, most people dream in full color... you must only dream in orange..

The republicans seem to love that we have government by the minority..

Think of this, in the 21st century, not republican president has won the majority of votes on the first term election... so we Americans have been saddled with the minority ruling over the majority of citizens.. now that sh** just naturally gotta stop..

The EC was created because the founders felt that the general population was to uneducated and ill informed to make a relational vote..

the second major concern was transportation, both for people and freight.. moving all the people or all the votes to a central point was deemed impractical at that time so having only a handful of selected elites to do the actual vote per the peoples wishes was the alternative..

As for removing senators from the choice of the people, that is more of the Nazi desire from the cult that you simply echo.. the more control of government is removed from the voters, the more corruption and power goes into the hands of the few richest and corporations..

Term limit will never be passed for anyone in our government.. no matter how many of us want that the reps will never vote themselves out of the life time deal..

You seem to be in tears about the constitution being upheld by even republicans other then trump and his cult..

Get a grip and move on.. we all are.. love it or leave it..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

permafrost wrote:

Fabulous photo.. love it..

that would indeed be a wonderful start to the day..

I can not find any fault in your post..

but I see no connection to mine....

Have another wonderful day...

Well I wrote you earlier but must not have sent??

Just wanted to say my only message was there is more in life than the negative influence of politics..That was all...☃️🎄🎁

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

permafrost wrote:

tucker,,, most people dream in full color... you m... (show quote)

Nope, no tears here. What? "...love it or leave it..?" Isn't your mantra, "Change it or lose it?"

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"...the more control of government is removed from the voters, the more corruption and power goes into the hands of the few richest and corporations.."

and yet, we've extended the vote to non-white property owners, women, blacks and other minorities, and 18-year-olds. More democracy and things are getting worse through more government control in our lives, and technocrat oligarchies have more power than ever. Sorry but you are not giving me a very convincing argument.

Quote:

"The EC was created because the founders felt that the general population was to uneducated and ill informed to make a relational vote.. "

I would love to know your source for this. The founders thought you needed a moral society that was educated (Hence the development of universal public education in the U.S., and a free press that would keep the public informed.) A Fourth Estate to help keep the government in check. Instead, the Media is aligned with the left and doesn't operate for the public good or in their interest.

Lifetime deal? One term in Congress gets them a lifetime pension.

How are things in your neck of the woods? Lots of snow on the ground and cold? Stay well!

albets

jelun

I would love to hear more.
Could you explain how having legislatures choose US senators would balance representation of the people's views in contrast to the current EC system for POTUS? You seem to be saying that clusters of population should only choose legislative power. Is that what you intend?

I think that the only solution to the imbalance of the EC's power is to encourage development in those under populated regions that go red, maybe we should get funding to supply adequate sewerage to the rural south and all this manufacturing that will pull out of China (yes, that is my tongue you see poking my cheek) into Montana, the Dakotas, and Wyoming. Provide incentives to "move to the middle, young person". What do you think?

dtucker300 wrote:

Intriguing! Tell me more! By carefully, do you me... (show quote)