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Nov 30, 2020 04:33:41   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
I too believe in fair play, very strongly in fact. Who cares what Hillary told Biden, hopefully Biden does not do anything just because she says to. She is an artifact of the past and I really don't give a sh!t what she has to say.

The Bush-Gore election was won by Bush in FL by 537 votes. The recount was needed to substantiate the winner, which it indeed did. I don't recall Gore asking for a second recount, do you?

There is no recount going on or being asked for in any state that Biden won by less than 10,000 votes. Trump had part of Michigan recounted, a state he lost by 154,000. Not even remotely the same.
I too believe in fair play, very strongly in fact.... (show quote)


Gore had multiple recounts in Florida and the more they handled the ballots the more the punch outs (chads) came loose. Gore's challenge went on for 37 days. I mentioned Hillary because the advice that she gave to Biden is the same course that Trump is following. There are some actions that Trump is taking could only be pursued once recounts had been done. We still have time and Trump still has legal options available to him. We can wait. If fraud is found, whether it affected the outcome or not, the guilty should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and the guilty should receive the maximum penalty, Democrat or Republican does not matter. If there was enough fraud to affect the outcome of the election, then the Trump will be inaugurated for his second term. If there wasn't enough to have affected the outcome of the election, Biden will be inaugurated and the country could begin to heal, knowing that it was a fair election. Without this assurance, the country will remain divided and the divisions may get worse.

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Nov 30, 2020 05:00:39   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Kickaha wrote:
Gore had multiple recounts in Florida and the more they handled the ballots the more the punch outs (chads) came loose. Gore's challenge went on for 37 days. I mentioned Hillary because the advice that she gave to Biden is the same course that Trump is following. There are some actions that Trump is taking could only be pursued once recounts had been done. We still have time and Trump still has legal options available to him. We can wait. If fraud is found, whether it affected the outcome or not, the guilty should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and the guilty should receive the maximum penalty, Democrat or Republican does not matter. If there was enough fraud to affect the outcome of the election, then the Trump will be inaugurated for his second term. If there wasn't enough to have affected the outcome of the election, Biden will be inaugurated and the country could begin to heal, knowing that it was a fair election. Without this assurance, the country will remain divided and the divisions may get worse.
Gore had multiple recounts in Florida and the more... (show quote)



I basically agree with you here. If fraud is found by dems, republicans or independents or anyone else the individuals responsible should face the full force of the law.

But honestly after nearly a month and over 40 lawsuits, what we have are nearly 40 Trump losses.

There simply has been no evidence that would change anything.

But we sure have heard a lot of accusations from the right, and none from anywhere else. We have a system that is very hard to cheat in any meaningful way. And most of these fraud accusations come from states that are run by republicans who strongly supported Trump.

If they did not find any fraud, there probably was not anything that would have made a difference.

I think it's safe to say there were several million republicans who voted against Trump but then voted republican down ballot. I actually have 5 friends here in Boise that did just that.

Bottom line is that a lot of us voted against Trump, not for Biden. Trump is scum and turning America into his personal piggy bank and an autocracy is not something many of us patriots could stomach.

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Nov 30, 2020 05:07:57   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Kickaha wrote:
Gore had multiple recounts in Florida and the more they handled the ballots the more the punch outs (chads) came loose. Gore's challenge went on for 37 days. I mentioned Hillary because the advice that she gave to Biden is the same course that Trump is following. There are some actions that Trump is taking could only be pursued once recounts had been done. We still have time and Trump still has legal options available to him. We can wait. If fraud is found, whether it affected the outcome or not, the guilty should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and the guilty should receive the maximum penalty, Democrat or Republican does not matter. If there was enough fraud to affect the outcome of the election, then the Trump will be inaugurated for his second term. If there wasn't enough to have affected the outcome of the election, Biden will be inaugurated and the country could begin to heal, knowing that it was a fair election. Without this assurance, the country will remain divided and the divisions may get worse.
Gore had multiple recounts in Florida and the more... (show quote)


By the way, Gore only requested one recount for four Florida counties. The initial recount was automatic and based on FL state law. The initial difference was 1700, after the first recount it was down under half, and that was when Gore requested a hand recount.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election_recount_in_Florida

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Nov 30, 2020 05:50:37   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
By the way, Gore only requested one recount for four Florida counties. The initial recount was automatic and based on FL state law. The initial difference was 1700, after the first recount it was down under half, and that was when Gore requested a hand recount.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election_recount_in_Florida


A new witness has filed an affidavit stating there was fraud in the Dominion system that gave the election to Biden. The witness is Navid Keshavarz-Nia, the world's foremost expert on cyber security. His credentials took seven paragraphs to list and includes the CIA, FBI, DIA, DHS department of Intelligence & Analysis, BA, MA, and several PhDs. It will be interesting if and when he takes the stand.

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Nov 30, 2020 08:27:23   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Kickaha wrote:
A new witness has filed an affidavit stating there was fraud in the Dominion system that gave the election to Biden. The witness is Navid Keshavarz-Nia, the world's foremost expert on cyber security. His credentials took seven paragraphs to list and includes the CIA, FBI, DIA, DHS department of Intelligence & Analysis, BA, MA, and several PhDs. It will be interesting if and when he takes the stand.


Source?

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Nov 30, 2020 09:13:57   #
son of witless
 
Seth wrote:
4 mistakes out of six words, not including the missing period, or uncapitalized ok instead of "okay."

I had a few English teachers back in the day who would have had a field day with him.


You are overly critical, however the big one, which so many leftists on OPP are guilty of, is not knowing the difference between your and you're.

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Nov 30, 2020 11:13:47   #
Seth
 
son of witless wrote:
You are overly critical, however the big one, which so many leftists on OPP are guilty of, is not knowing the difference between your and you're.


It's those durn contractions, get 'em every time.

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Nov 30, 2020 12:32:21   #
Sicilianthing
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
There is no proof. If there had been we would have seen it weeks ago.

Just a bunch of hot air and noise from a crybaby who was never presidential material and will end his years in jail if justice is served.

And you Sici are one of the few on here that seems to finally be getting it👍


>>>

I can see through a lot of BullCrap most people can’t...

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Nov 30, 2020 12:34:36   #
Sicilianthing
 
Peewee wrote:
English, seems to be your second language? You don't seem to understand the words and their meanings. No, means no. Why argue or debate a tree stump. Paint your face and do what you gotta do. Our mayor threatened and we showed up and the police didn't. Alamo II & III are over. I doubt there will be an Alamo IV. We have too many patriots in this town. Our Constitution isn't suspended during pandemics and neither are our rights. You may have to fight for yours though. Wishing you well!


>>>

Can you speak in normal terms and not code please...

I have no clue wtf you just babbled about ...

My commentary is about facts... proof, corroborating evidence of anything you guys are posting about...

It’s all a bunch of Crap and Yap Yap Flap Flap

Blah blah blah....

I’m on your side but I just dont believe in all the bullcrap you’re begin fed.

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Nov 30, 2020 13:13:25   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
Kevyn wrote:
Obviously, your president has always been either Putin or his stooge.


You must be Chinese.

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Nov 30, 2020 14:22:30   #
son of witless
 
Seth wrote:
It's those durn contractions, get 'em every time.


My English Professor was Weird Al. Where would I be with out him ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc

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Nov 30, 2020 14:38:48   #
Seth
 
son of witless wrote:
My English Professor was Weird Al. Where would I be with out him ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc


That is hilarious!

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Dec 1, 2020 02:38:25   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
[quote=Kickaha]A new witness has filed an affidavit stating there was fraud in the Dominion system that gave the election to Biden. The witness is Navid Keshavarz-Nia, the world's foremost expert on cyber security. His credentials took seven paragraphs to list and includes the CIA, FBI, DIA, DHS department of Intelligence & Analysis, BA, MA, and several PhDs. It will be interesting if and when he takes the stand.[/quote

Check out these, guess we will see how things play out, but all the Fed agencies that monitor this disagree with this guy. I read the entire thing, interesting read, lot of supposition and opinion but no actual evidence. Pretty much all debunked below. None of these machines are even connected to the internet so not sure how China, Iran and Cuba got access to change votes as this gentleman accuses.

https://www.cnet.com/news/why-trumps-claims-of-massive-voting-machine-fraud-dont-have-merit/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/30/fact-check-photo-shows-fake-logo-slogan-dominion-voting-systems/6456774002/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/20/fact-check-alleged-dominion-democrats-links-wrong-misleading/6248542002/

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Dec 1, 2020 02:39:58   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

Can you speak in normal terms and not code please...

I have no clue wtf you just babbled about ...

My commentary is about facts... proof, corroborating evidence of anything you guys are posting about...

It’s all a bunch of Crap and Yap Yap Flap Flap

Blah blah blah....

I’m on your side but I just dont believe in all the bullcrap you’re begin fed.


I think you may be much smarter than these folks Sici.

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Dec 1, 2020 12:34:13   #
Sicilianthing
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
I think you may be much smarter than these folks Sici.


>>>

I’m a realist and only believe in things tangible and seen with my own eyes...

I need to see concluding actions and hard hitting results...

I need to see the executions after the arrests

No more stalling
No more secrets
No more Barr the King Rat Traitor AG missing in action...

I can go on for pages about all the bullcrap people are posting here... but eh ?



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