wilpharm

already named the POS swifty kerry to position..wont take kamala log to appoint AOC when she officially takes over from her string pulling job...just a matter of time...we are in the woods, folks!!!

Grugore

Not a problem. Trump has matches.

straightUp Loc: California

First of all, I don't have a party. I am unaffiliated. Secondly, I am not so stupid as to think ANY party is emulating the Nazis as you are suggesting. That suggestion alone screams of ignorance.

The Nazis have earned a place in our history as evil doers because of their tyrannical approach to government, their treatment of people that don't fit an accepted profile and of course the fact that they were our enemies during WW2. References to evil Nazis have since become a common tool of American political rhetoric.

American liberals probably started first, as for decades now, they have been drawing out the parallels between the Nazis and the American right when it comes to cultural bigotry. It probably doesn't help that white supremacists in America would often express a reverence for Nazi symbolism.

But the parallels started to increase in more recent years as American workers started to lose viability on a global market. This puts us closer to the situation Germans were experiencing after WW1 and in much the same way, the citizens in both countries were increasingly divided over what to do about it. In both cases, the basic disagreement was whether to forge ahead with global compromise and democratic principles or refuse those compromising principles in favor of a more autonomous, non-negotiable power structure that defiantly puts the nation first.

The Nazi's were clearly in the latter category... They were above and beyond everything else, nationalists which is a form of exclusion that already puts them on the right side of politics. In America, the divergence of the Republican Party over the views of the globalist neoconservatives resulted in a right-wing nationalist movement of our own and this is precisely what Trump has tapped into.

But nationalism itself is not what gave the Nazis (or any other right-wing faction) a reputation for being evil… The discontent among citizens that are splitting our parties today is also what allowed the Nazis to develop a more extreme version of nationalism, first exemplified by Mussolini's Fascist Party and thereafter referred to simply as fascism.

Fascism is often defined as regime type that expects citizens to function together in a corporate fashion for the glory of the state and in all three classic examples (Italy, Germany and Spain) democracy was disabled to insure national interest above the interests of individuals. For many Americans, raised to believe in individual liberty and democracy, fascism represents a violation of those ideas and WW2 (at least in Europe) is often thought of as a war between democracy and fascism. In truth, many Germans in the early 1930's also held liberty and democracy in high regard, so then how the hell did fascism take over?

In your post, you seem to be suggesting that those Germans got fooled. Well, for once I agree with you. The Nazis followed a fascist approach to taking power through a heavily patriotic propaganda campaign designed to encourage resentment among citizens toward any faction promoting the inclusions of the left that were thought to undermine the nationalist agenda, especially democracy (and therefore democratic socialism), international cooperation governed by democracy and most of all... communism.

The American right is pushing the exact same message now... Heavily patriotic, resentful toward progressives that have "destroyed this country" by submitting to global agreements, refusing to accept democracy when it goes against their will, resonating with anti-immigrant sentiments and of course vehemently anti-communist.

Now to be sure, ANY practical form of politics will have common points with every other practical form of politics… For instance every democratic system in the world today has allowed some degree of socialism but if there is one American faction that can be compared to the Nazis, so far described, it would be the right-wing nationalist movement that Trump has been trying to leverage. Not only because of the exclusions of nationalism being promoted but because of the propaganda that demonizes everything else.

So we can both cherry pick what we think are similarities between our respective sides and the Nazis but it appears that I am the only one between us capable of describing the similarities on a fundamental level.


Well, it's already being repeated, which is why so many Americans are calling Trump and his supporters fascists. But if you're referring specifically to how democracy was overturned when the Nazis terminated the Weimar Republic in 1933, I would say the 2020 elections turned out to be the left turn that took us off that road, at least for now.

straightUp Loc: California

Did I just see a conservative suggest raising taxes?

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

That is the most ridiculous statement I've heard today.

Thanks for the chuckle.

Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Didn't I say that I was saying that partially tongue-in-cheek slick?

roy

Oh they been raising taxes ,my republican state raised gas taxes on gas,why where did our road tax money go,When we had democrate in office we had the best roads probably in the country,we had a blanced budget,so where did our road money go?We used to have good union jobs with good benfits ,pensions and healthcare but now we have so many moving into out state they turned us red ,now are roads have gone to crap ,our jobs are mostly part time or full time with no workers protection, lower wages because of a right to work state.. And we have a business man Gov or that has done everything to protect his business interest and to make sure his business gets the most state contracts. He won by gainING the democrate vote ,just like trump,and hopefully when he's up for relection ,like trump he will loose all the democrates that voted for him like trump did

Tug484

Yeah, when he destroys the oil industry, he destroys everybody.
He's about an ignorant man.
He's like a piece of clay.
He has to pick Obama's cabinet and will be be shoved into every box possible by the loony left.

SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now

You already did...dumoss.👎

SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now

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American Vet

TDS

Radiance3

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This is the most CORRUPT ELECTION in the history of this country. While PA is the most corrupt and fraudulent states. There are 6 states that need to be reviewed. PA, MI, Wisconsin, GA, Arizona, and Nevada. All massive fraudulence among these states.

agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa

YUP !

dougolfw

This is probably the biggest pile of BS I have read on the site yet. And there have been big ones.

agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa

Right you are !