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Nov 8, 2020 18:02:24   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
Lonewolf wrote:
If only you could prove it


Lonewolf, I cannot prove it what so ever. But just look at all of the things that have happened to President Trump since 2015 going forward to this very second. Just look at all of the rioting that transpired prior to this election. Look at all of the CV19 scare tactics the msm has been pushing and then now all of a sudden no one is concerned? There are tons and tons of people both happy and angry about all of this and not one peep about those out in the streets not wearing masks. My topic was just me thinking out loud and to hopefully get some other insight from the rest of those here on OPP.

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Nov 8, 2020 18:03:57   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
Milosia2 wrote:
As far as civil war. Who has spoken out loud about civil war? Besides cici ?
Nobody. These were only seeds planted in your brain. They were never about civil war.
That is how you perceived them.
Fed them watered them, but nobody else was talking about civil war.
You jumped ahead only assuming these things would be true.
Now, here you are watering your civil war plants, totally out of sync with the rest.


Geez! Just read my response to lonewolf.

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Nov 8, 2020 19:55:47   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
DASHY wrote:
Diverting billions of dollars of tax payer money to pay for rooms, food, and entertainment for stays at Trump Owned properties while Trump, his family and all their handlers are visitors. These are ordinary and necessary expenses while Trump is on the job.


True, just like Obama's 28 vacations with how many attendees for Mitch?

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Nov 8, 2020 22:20:08   #
American Vet
 
DASHY wrote:
Diverting billions of dollars of tax payer money to pay for rooms, food, and entertainment for stays at Trump Owned properties while Trump, his family and all their handlers are visitors. These are ordinary and necessary expenses while Trump is on the job.


Ah Dashy - you need to learn that just because you post something doesn't mean it is a fact. Post your sources....

And since you are certain they are 'crimes', why not report them to the appropriate authorities? That's what a good citizen would do.

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Nov 9, 2020 06:26:18   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
DASHY wrote:
Diverting billions of dollars of tax payer money to pay for rooms, food, and entertainment for stays at Trump Owned properties while Trump, his family and all their handlers are visitors. These are ordinary and necessary expenses while Trump is on the job.

These types of payments were made for travels by the Obamas, Bushs, Clintons etc. Probably the lowest cost were for W going home to his ranch in Crawford, Texas. I know the media hated going there in the middle of summer (or at any time) because it wasn't some fancy luxury destination. The same with Reagan going home to his ranch and Carter going home to Plains, Georgia.

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Nov 9, 2020 12:46:55   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Half of the citizens of my State DID NOT vote for trump in 2016, meaning, only half did. Trump, the GOP and you, act like those who did not vote for trump don't exist, that their thoughts and concerns were irrelevant.

When you disenfranchise 2/3 of the country, there's bound to be some push back...........................such as those people NOT voting for trump..........................again.

Why is it so hard for you people to grasp the fact that most of the country did not, nor do not, care for trump in any way form or fashion? The people have spoken, get used to it.
Half of the citizens of my State DID NOT vote for ... (show quote)


we know your there how could we not(4 YEARS) you kept screaming and crying and getting in everyone face when you don't get what you want when the rest of us just want to move on(GROW UP). If the only way you can get what you want in to cheat and steal its real sad a stolen victory by dishonering your country go you

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Nov 9, 2020 15:43:06   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
bggamers wrote:
we know your there how could we not(4 YEARS) you kept screaming and crying and getting in everyone face when you don't get what you want when the rest of us just want to move on(GROW UP). If the only way you can get what you want in to cheat and steal its real sad a stolen victory by dishonering your country go you


It is obvious they don't understand chivalry, honor, and righteousness. It goes back centuries and crosses cultures, but many elite military units have believed in the motto 'Death before dishonor' and they lived and died by the code of honor.

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Nov 9, 2020 16:51:31   #
jwrevagent
 
RandyBrian wrote:
For once I agree with Dashy. Let's investigate every single accusation of voter fraud in this election! Every single one, and severely punish ANY and ALL that are proven to be true. Let's make it so harsh that NO one will ever consider doing so again. ALL accusations, on the left and the right, no matter where it leads us.


If only we could find an investigator who would actually be non-partisan, and have the best interests of the country at heart-do you know anyone like that? I do not. I fair and honest election would serve the country well, no matter who wins or loses. And if we could ever actually have that again, perhaps the loser could be gracious-but fair means stopping the lies about yourself and your opponent, pointing out where the differences lie without blame or being called a "Nazi, Un-American, or stupid. I doubt that is possible anymore.

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Nov 9, 2020 18:24:43   #
11Bravo
 
Kickaha wrote:
It is obvious they don't understand chivalry, honor, and righteousness. It goes back centuries and crosses cultures, but many elite military units have believed in the motto 'Death before dishonor' and they lived and died by the code of honor.


Thank you for the motto quote which I use here quite often. I still live it to this day, I learned what it means by enlisting in the US Army & proudly serving 6 yrs. w/strength & honor. Never leave your post until properly relieved, NEVER SURRENDER !! DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR !!

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Nov 9, 2020 19:31:54   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
11Bravo wrote:
Thank you for the motto quote which I use here quite often. I still live it to this day, I learned what it means by enlisting in the US Army & proudly serving 6 yrs. w/strength & honor. Never leave your post until properly relieved, NEVER SURRENDER !! DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR !!


I was unable to serve in the military, sports injuries and very bad eyesight. When I played sports I never quit on a play and never gave up on a game until the horn sounded. On ice my job was to protect my goalie and other teammates. I've been told that not giving up is a bad trait, but I'll never believe it. I taught my kids the same thing. My oldest son did two hitches in the Army, including two trips to Iraq. My other son did one tour in Iraq, came home and got his college degree, then went back active duty. He comes back home in another week.

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Nov 9, 2020 19:38:08   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
maximus wrote:
It's funny that you talk about jumping ahead at this particular time when four years ago at just about this same time, your side had projected, ( jumped ahead), an America with no civil rights, a destroyed economy, at war, and even in a nuclear war! Y'all forget your own selves so easily!


Fascism from Trumpists just ain’t my bag,
Daddio!

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Nov 9, 2020 19:39:40   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Kickaha wrote:
It is obvious they don't understand chivalry, honor, and righteousness. It goes back centuries and crosses cultures, but many elite military units have believed in the motto 'Death before dishonor' and they lived and died by the code of honor.


For some reason, a lot of jailed convicts have that very same tattoo !

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Nov 9, 2020 19:41:17   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
maximus wrote:
It's funny that you talk about jumping ahead at this particular time when four years ago at just about this same time, your side had projected, ( jumped ahead), an America with no civil rights, a destroyed economy, at war, and even in a nuclear war! Y'all forget your own selves so easily!


Severe and Profound.

You seem totally unaware of the destruction caused by your fearless leader.

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Nov 9, 2020 20:09:51   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Severe and Profound.

You seem totally unaware of the destruction caused by your fearless leader.


You seem to have some severe cognitive issues. Up until the pandemic hit, our stock market was at record highs (it has since rebounded back to record highs), unemployment rates were at record lows for all demographics, more people than ever before were employed, wages grew with the fastest increases among lower income groups, manufacturing jobs were returning (you know the ones Obama said would never come back), our trade deals got better for the United States, and passed the first step act to assist those who have completed their sentences to reenter society as productive members. This was lauded by people on both sides of the aisle including former Obama advisor, Van Jones. While Van Jones and I may never agree on much, he is honest enough to give credit where credit is due.

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Nov 9, 2020 20:36:23   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Severe and Profound.

You seem totally unaware of the destruction caused by your fearless leader.


Trump had many successes, but the left has refused to give him any credit. Under Trump the economy was booming prior to the pandemic. The stock market was at record highs (it has since rebounded from the crash caused by the pandemic). Unemployment was at record lows for all demographics. Not only that, but there was a record number of people employed. Wages were going up, with the biggest gains among the lower wage earning groups. The employment rates were quickly dropping towards the prepandemic rate. The crime bill promoted by Joe Biden while he was in the Senate, was responsible for the mass incarceration of minorities. Trump got the First Step Act passed. It was lauded by people on both sides of the aisle including former Obama advisor, Van Jones. Van Jones and I may never agree on much of anything, but he is honest enough to give Trump credit for doing something good for the black community (and all prisoners). This all sounds like success not destruction to me. If you think this destruction, you may need to seek professional help.

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