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Colorado passes resolution to throw states electoral votes to popular vote winner!
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Nov 6, 2020 10:06:17   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
proud republican wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-passes-resolution-to-throw-states-electoral-votes-to-popular-vote-winner


I believe that they are talking about the popular vote winner in Colorado only, which is how it is meant to be. I am sure that President Biden will correct all of Trumps errors. Now a question for you Proud Republican will you support the next President Yes or No ?

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Nov 6, 2020 12:36:38   #
Carol Kelly
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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When popular votes decide and not the electoral, that's the same as eliminating the electoral votes. Those states with the highest voter population like New York, and California, Florida, and Texas could decide the winner. Small states with lower voters are disenfranchised. The LIBS want this. Most populated states are loaded with liberal democrats and illegals that LIBS require to vote also.


So true!

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Nov 6, 2020 16:37:12   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
So true!


well it sure looks like Biden is going to win the popular vote and the Electoral college vote that the Russian's gave to him 4 yrs ago lol

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Nov 6, 2020 21:47:02   #
rebelwidacoz Loc: Illinois
 
proud republican wrote:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-passes-resolution-to-throw-states-electoral-votes-to-popular-vote-winner


I didn't open your link Darling, but on the surface I would say that you are being disingenuous to your belief's.
I think Trump lost Colorado ; at least for this election you are - now that would eliminate the problem of the electoral college usurping the basic fundamental principals of the democracy - but there is a such thing as is called faithless electors, some states have laws that deter this faithless act - others do not ;this is the act of not being true to what the states popular vote have decreed. It was affirmed that the electoral members did not have to be faithful to the popular vote and could cast their electoral ballot for president to whom ever they saw fit and wanted to be president -I used the word affirmed because it wasn't a novel concept that they passed two or three years back; a law or resolution that stated they could continue the faithless act of choosing whom ever they , the individual wanted to be president -this turn still leaves in place the usurption of the democracy

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Nov 7, 2020 08:57:50   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
The electoral college was established to prevent a few large states from running the country.


It was setup to follow the states result of the popular vote. Like I mentioned the only control that was used is the expectant that the electorals would follow the popular vote. Nothing else was used to ensure that the process was followed.

https://www.fairvote.org/faithless_elector_state_laws
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/10/21/can-the-electoral-college-be-subverted-by-faithless-electors/
https://history.house.gov/Institution/Electoral-College/Electoral-College/
https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amendment-xii
https://www.history.com/news/electors-chosen-electoral-college

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Nov 7, 2020 10:20:46   #
Cuda2020
 
zombinis3 wrote:
It was setup to follow the states result of the po... (show quote)



The following is NCSL’s summary of how the full Electoral College process will work in the 2020 presidential election:

Spring and Summer 2020: Nomination of Electors. The political parties in each state nominate their electors. Parties and states have different ways of going about this, but a party’s presidential electors are generally loyal or consistent party members. The parties want to be sure they can rely on their electors to cast their votes for the party’s nominee for president.

Nov. 3, 2020: Election Day, when voters in each state will select their presidential electors. The names of electors are not on the ballot in most states. Rather, when a voter casts a vote for a presidential candidate, s/he is also casting a vote for the electors already selected by the party of that candidate. If a majority of voters in a state vote for the Republican candidate for president, the Republican slate of electors is elected. If a majority vote for the Democratic candidate, the Democratic slate of electors is chosen.

Dec. 8, 2020: Deadline for Resolving Election Disputes. All state recounts and court contests over presidential election results must be completed by this date. (3 U.S.C. § 5). For the majority of states the date of certification is the same as for all contests, but in eight states there is a deadline that either directly references 3 USC §5 or uses similar language, requiring that disputes surrounding the selection of presidential electors be resolved in time to meet the “safe harbor” deadline: Indiana, Iowa, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.

Dec. 14, 2020: Meeting of the Electors. The electors meet in each state and cast their ballots for president and vice president. Each elector votes on his or her own ballot and signs it. The ballots are immediately transmitted to various people: one copy goes to the president of the U.S. Senate (who is also the vice president of the United States); this is the copy that will be officially counted later. Other copies go to the state’s secretary of state, the National Archives and Records Administration, and the presiding judge in the district where the electors meet (this serves as a backup copy that would replace the official copy sent to the president of the Senate if it is lost or destroyed).

Dec. 23, 2020: Deadline for Receipt of Ballots. The electors’ ballots from all states must be received by the president of the Senate by this date. There is no penalty for missing this deadline.
Jan. 6, 2021: Counting of the Electoral Ballots. The U.S. Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes.
Jan. 20, 2021: Inauguration Day. The president-elect becomes the president of the United States.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/legislatures-override-electors/

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Nov 7, 2020 10:27:58   #
Cuda2020
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You're one of those uneducated maroons who think our Constitution is alive and must change with the political winds, that it can be altered by political whim.

The Constitution of the United States is the foundation of our system of governance. Like the foundation of a building, the principles of governance embedded in the constitution are not subject to "remodeling" to accommodate any given time or age. What you are suggesting is to wipe out Article II of the constitution and thereby destroying the foundation of our system of governance.

What happens when you destroy the foundation of a building?

The Electoral College is critical to our election process, it prevents states with large populations from controlling the way in which our nation is governed.



The US Constitution provides the state legislatures with the sole authority of determining the time, place and manner for holding elections in their state. The constitutions of each state specify the time, place, and manner for the election process, and in all cases, a time is set ON ELECTION DAY when the polls will close and all ballots must be received. Ballots not received by the set time are rendered invalid and will not be counted.

One example of fraud is the violations of state election laws such as the Omar campaign ballot harvesting now under investigation by police in Minnesota during which money was exchanged (videos available).

Other examples of "new rules" include voter registration on election day that allows someone to vote immediately with no time for election officials to verify the information provided. In many precincts, no ID is required. (a bus load of illegal immigrants could walk in to a polling place, sign up and vote before the ink dries.)

Apart from those, the corruption of the election process in PA is probably the most egregious.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court threw out part of the election law passed by the lawmakers of Pennsylvania, and substituted instead rules written by judges. This decision, issued on a party-line vote by the elected Democrats who constitute the Pennsylvania court’s majority, used the open-ended guarantees of “free and equal” elections and “free exercise of the right of suffrage” to invalidate the legislature’s deadline for mail-in ballots to be received by 8 p.m. on Election Day — the same time the in-person polls close. Worse, defying basic principles of interpreting statutes, the Pennsylvania court not only rejected the deadline, but disregarded the explicit instruction by the Pennsylvania legislature — in Act 77, a law signed by the state’s Democratic governor in 2019 — that if any part of the carefully crafted bipartisan compromise was invalidated, the entire thing (including its provisions for mail-in voting) had to be invalidated.

IOW, the PASC violated the state election process and extended the deadline to a week after the deadline established by the state legislature.

These examples are by no means the sum of it.

There is no way the former democrat party could have won much of anything, especially the presidency, without corrupting our American electoral processes, without fraud and cheating. The mail-in ballot was the poison poured into the system.

This is not a conspiracy theory, or a right wing pipe dream, or just someone's opinion, the attempts to corrupt the American electoral process and disenfranchise millions of voters in this election was and still is very real.

Attempts to establish one party rule is nothing new, it has many historical precedents that were successful.
You're one of those uneducated maroons who think o... (show quote)


Get over it, you're parroting Trumps false claims and rhetoric, it's all BS, the blues quietly mailed in their votes. Trump, the biggest whiner victim coming down the pike. Funny, his complaints are where he's not winning.

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