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Nov 2, 2020 00:02:30   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Seth wrote:
When I learned that Floyd had once jammed a pistol.into a pregnant woman's stomach during a home invasion and laughed whole she begged for mercy for her and her baby, I mentally congratulated the cop.

If you think a piece of scum like that deserved anything better than what he got, you and him are exactly the same person.

He should have gotten a bullet in the back of the head when he was arrested for that, not just a few years in prison and the opportunity to return to plague the public further and waste oxygen that would be better breathed by a turd crawling cockroach.

But then, these are the kind of people your ilk puts back on the street. Let's see how you feel about it when you run into some of his friends one dark night.
When I learned that Floyd had once jammed a pistol... (show quote)

We can only hope!

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Nov 2, 2020 00:04:41   #
Seth
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
We can only hope!


Amen!

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Nov 2, 2020 02:30:30   #
eden
 
Seth wrote:
When I learned that Floyd had once jammed a pistol.into a pregnant woman's stomach during a home invasion and laughed whole she begged for mercy for her and her baby, I mentally congratulated the cop.

If you think a piece of scum like that deserved anything better than what he got, you and him are exactly the same person.

He should have gotten a bullet in the back of the head when he was arrested for that, not just a few years in prison and the opportunity to return to plague the public further and waste oxygen that would be better breathed by a turd crawling cockroach.

But then, these are the kind of people your ilk puts back on the street. Let's see how you feel about it when you run into some of his friends one dark night.
When I learned that Floyd had once jammed a pistol... (show quote)



That story about the pistol shoved in the belly of a pregnant woman and many others like it have spread like wildfire in the wake of the George Floyd killing. Snopes, Politifact and others rate this story as flat out false but once again so much energy being put into discrediting the victim of this tragedy and legitimizing his killing. It may be cheaply satisfying to fantasize about summary executions of vicious criminals but vigilantism is the edge of a slippery slope and any time it gets away on us innocent people suffer with the guilty and mob rule lynch people for no more reason than their religion or the color of their skin. Frankly your post seems racially charged. Did you have the same reaction when Dylan Roof shot all those black people in their church?

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Nov 2, 2020 03:43:45   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
eden wrote:
I don’t need an excuse to criticize him. You take that job, expect criticism. Same for Obama or any President. It’s our patriotic duty to call them out when they screw up.

Biggest Landslide in history? Hmmmm... dubious.


It doesn't matter who is elected, Republican or Democrat. On January 20 that person is sworn in, on January 21 they are sworn at. In Trump's case, he does everything faster. He was both sworn in and sworn at on January 20, 2017.

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Nov 2, 2020 08:34:21   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
eden wrote:
That story about the pistol shoved in the belly of a pregnant woman and many others like it have spread like wildfire in the wake of the George Floyd killing. Snopes, Politifact and others rate this story as flat out false but once again so much energy being put into discrediting the victim of this tragedy and legitimizing his killing. It may be cheaply satisfying to fantasize about summary executions of vicious criminals but vigilantism is the edge of a slippery slope and any time it gets away on us innocent people suffer with the guilty and mob rule lynch people for no more reason than their religion or the color of their skin. Frankly your post seems racially charged. Did you have the same reaction when Dylan Roof shot all those black people in their church?
That story about the pistol shoved in the belly of... (show quote)

You guys started down that slippery slope in Portland and Roof needed to be killed too!

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Nov 2, 2020 08:48:03   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eden wrote:
Whether you like it or not there is a widespread conviction among Americans of all colors that white policemen show little concern for the rights or safety of people of color, particularly if they are poor. I lived for a time in California back in the 80's and one of my clients had a daughter that was a Reserve Policewoman who showed me a printed target from the range that showed in the center of the circles a silhouette of a running male figure. Across the bottom of the target was printed in black bold caps "OFFICIAL RUNNING NIGGER TARGET".
I have heard recently that this kind of under-the-race-radar attitude is alive and well in many precincts across the country. If there are only white people present in some social situations this kind of attitude is common even today. This mindset will always come to the surface like pus in stressful situations.

So argue away. As long as we put off a national dialogue of substance we will have suspicion and fear on both sides. Add lethal force and you have what we have today and it is not getting better with neglect.
Whether you like it or not there is a widespread c... (show quote)


Given the ethnic diversity of our nation racism will always be... The best we can do is try and recognize the only limitations we have are those we impose on ourself...

It isn’t just Black Lives Matter, all lives matter. If they truly want to matter there are certainly enough social programs offered up to help them.. It becomes a matter of them wanting to do it. Respect is earned not demanded. This black lives movement is nothing more than a movement because it’s not genuine on either side. All it has done is made it a deep-seated hatred now and once again.Same with the garbage on white supremacist, its garbage!

Those things thrive because people choose to play them up rather than working towards a mutual understanding of each other, color be damned.!!!

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Nov 2, 2020 08:57:20   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
eden wrote:
Your first sentence is correct, after that you veer off into talking points that of course totally exonerate your beloved. Isolation can prevent you acquiring the virus. New Zealand and a couple of other countries have proved that. A national effort to contain the virus led by (you might expect) the anointed leader of the country to bring together a national bi-partisan task force to address the threat by identifying hotspots and instituting effective countermeasures such as intensive testing, quarantining cluster groups with follow up care and support. The entire country would not have to be shutdown and the worst effects mitigated with a much lower infection and death rate. Had this been done this President would be coasting to an easy victory with most of the country behind him.

But unfortunately fear won the day and this feckless President saw a threat to his re-lection that led him to delay, discredit and delegitimize the worst public health crisis to face this country in history. Ignoring science, berating experts, firing anybody who questioned his erratic responses, those are not the actions of a statesman regardless of party.

So, sorry, but in my view he has culpability for some of those 200,000 plus untimely deaths.
Your first sentence is correct, after that you vee... (show quote)



Isolation can not prevent you from acquiring the virus, it just takes longer to get it. Well, unless you stay in hiding all your life. If a very good vaccine ever comes about then that changes. Look at FLU, at best it's 50%
effected. Hundreds of thousands die from the FLU every year even with a vaccine.
As I said, it's an act of GOOD. No power on earth can stop it. Not even Biden, lol.

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Nov 2, 2020 10:41:38   #
Seth
 
eden wrote:
That story about the pistol shoved in the belly of a pregnant woman and many others like it have spread like wildfire in the wake of the George Floyd killing. Snopes, Politifact and others rate this story as flat out false but once again so much energy being put into discrediting the victim of this tragedy and legitimizing his killing. It may be cheaply satisfying to fantasize about summary executions of vicious criminals but vigilantism is the edge of a slippery slope and any time it gets away on us innocent people suffer with the guilty and mob rule lynch people for no more reason than their religion or the color of their skin. Frankly your post seems racially charged. Did you have the same reaction when Dylan Roof shot all those black people in their church?
That story about the pistol shoved in the belly of... (show quote)


I am opposed to all that bullshit. As far as my being a racist goes, if I allowed morons a peek into my personal life you might have the opportunity to see how stupid that remark was.

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Nov 2, 2020 11:06:56   #
Seth
 
eden wrote:
I don’t need an excuse to criticize him. You take that job, expect criticism. Same for Obama or any President. It’s our patriotic duty to call them out when they screw up.

Biggest Landslide in history? Hmmmm... dubious.


Trump doesn't get "called out when he screws up," he gets slandered, attacked and "investigated" every second of every day for no other reason that he beat Hillary and dried up the easy money corruption picnic for too many Democrats. anti-Trumpers have zero credible arguments for this, most of it is simply ignorant dislike or hatred for the man while ignoring accomplishments that have benefited millions of people.

Only a mentally lame person could call what Trump has been enduring since he was elected "criticism."

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Nov 2, 2020 11:08:39   #
Seth
 
Kickaha wrote:
It doesn't matter who is elected, Republican or Democrat. On January 20 that person is sworn in, on January 21 they are sworn at. In Trump's case, he does everything faster. He was both sworn in and sworn at on January 20, 2017.


Ain't that the truth!

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Nov 2, 2020 11:10:40   #
Seth
 
lindajoy wrote:
Given the ethnic diversity of our nation racism will always be... The best we can do is try and recognize the only limitations we have are those we impose on ourself...

It isn’t just Black Lives Matter, all lives matter. If they truly want to matter there are certainly enough social programs offered up to help them.. It becomes a matter of them wanting to do it. Respect is earned not demanded. This black lives movement is nothing more than a movement because it’s not genuine on either side. All it has done is made it a deep-seated hatred now and once again.Same with the garbage on white supremacist, its garbage!

Those things thrive because people choose to play them up rather than working towards a mutual understanding of each other, color be damned.!!!
Given the ethnic diversity of our nation racism wi... (show quote)


Extremely well put.

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Nov 2, 2020 13:40:04   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
Capt-jack wrote:
We CAN Reform Criminals....


It's official.

After 6 burglaries, 3 car thefts, multiple illegal trespasses, ongoing cocaine, and alcohol addiction, committing 2 violent home invasions, 3 armed robberies, dealing Fentanyl and Meth, passing counterfeit money, beating 4 victims senseless, and being arrested 23 times since 1998.

George Floyd has not committed a crime in over four months now!


Division and hatred?
No just truth and justice.

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Nov 3, 2020 00:17:33   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Seth wrote:
Extremely well put.


Thank You, Seth...Truly an enigma trying to “ determine “ the whys of such intentional persons??

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Nov 3, 2020 00:26:58   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
eden wrote:
No I’m just a hard working, tax paying citizen who is tired of the jingoistic hogwash that comes from the con man in the White House.
I’m equally disinterested in farmyard waste from the left.


The left is worse than manure...they're more like toxic waste that never goes away

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Nov 3, 2020 02:13:12   #
Seth
 
lindajoy wrote:
Thank You, Seth...Truly an enigma trying to “ determine “ the whys of such intentional persons??


Among the actual few obstacles faced by blacks -- and I mean few, is their penchant for following the wrong role models and listening to the wrong people, such as other blacks whose livelihoods consist of race mongering, like Al Sharpton or Maxine Waters, or the ones who allow the Democrats and the mainstream media to convince them that they live in a racist society where they don't stand a chance without the Democrats having their backs. Those who learn to think for themselves, realistically examine the things they're being told by the Democrats and weigh them against reality tend to achieve and usually begin voting to the right while those who are too lazy to question what they're being fed stay right where they are or travel downhill into the abyss of crime, drugs and prison.

Any way you look at it, though, it's all on them: how badly do they want to get out of the poverty cycle and what do they want in their personal pursuits of happiness?

I have a number of successful black and Latino friends and colleagues, some of whom reached adulthood by way of the projects, who looked forward rather than back and wanted a normal American lifestyle -- worked for it, and achieved it.

Look at two prominent models for this: Thomas Sowell was raised poor in Harlem and dropped out of high school. Now he is a college professor, a published author and well known in political circles.

Candace Owens grew up on welfare, look where she is today.

Both are disliked by "liberals" in part because they're outspokenly conservative and have the fame and credibility to influence blacks to rethink their relationships with the Democratic Party, and in part because they both succeeded without needing help from the Democrats.

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