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Oct 30, 2020 11:08:42   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I don't believe anyone said it's scam, it's just not as bad as the media it making it out to be. Remember Chicken Little?





permafrost wrote:
I have to say, this is more than just dumb.. this is irrational.. only a sick mind would think the Covid is a scam.. the 4 month period is a clear distortion of fact and the apparent assumption that it is only in the United States.. or maybe the writer thinks the whole world is in a plot against the United states and trump..

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Oct 30, 2020 11:12:44   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
permafrost wrote:
I have to say, this is more than just dumb.. this is irrational.. only a sick mind would think the Covid is a scam.. the 4 month period is a clear distortion of fact and the apparent assumption that it is only in the United States.. or maybe the writer thinks the whole world is in a plot against the United states and trump..


Mar-a-Largo is having a special, 2 for 1 ventilator included, vaccine from Russia (with love?).

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Oct 30, 2020 11:21:52   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
bmac32 wrote:
I don't believe anyone said it's scam, it's just not as bad as the media it making it out to be. Remember Chicken Little?


Not that bad, would you undertake any activity where your chance of dying was 5 out of 200? Think about what your saying before posting dumb bromides. What's left of ACP's brain has already dissolved.

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Oct 30, 2020 11:22:07   #
kemmer
 
ACP45 wrote:
"Ever since the alleged pandemic erupted this past March the mainstream media has spewed a non-stop stream of misinformation that appears to be laser focused on generating maximum fear among the citizenry. But the facts and the science simply don’t support the grave picture painted of a deadly virus sweeping the land.

Yes we do have a pandemic, but it’ a pandemic of ginned up pseudo-science masquerading as unbiased fact. Here are nine facts backed up with data, in many cases from the CDC itself that paints a very different picture from the fear and dread being relentlessly drummed into the brains of unsuspecting citizens.

1) The PCR test is practically useless

According to an article in the New York Times August 29th 2020 testing for the Covid-19 virus using the popular PCR method results in up to 90% of those tested showing positive results that are grossly misleading.

Officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada compiled testing data that revealed the PCR test can NOT determine the amount of virus in a sample. (viral load) The amount of virus in up to 90% of positive results turned out to be so miniscule that the patient was asymptomatic and posed no threat to others. So the positive Covid-19 tests are virtually meaningless.

2) A positive test is NOT a CASE

For some reason every positive Covid-19 test is immediately designated a CASE. As we saw in #1 above up to 90% of positive Covid-19 tests result in miniscule amounts of virus that do not sicken the subject. Historically only patients who demonstrated actual symptoms of an illness were considered a case. Publishing positive test results as “CASES” is grossly misleading and needlessly alarming.

3) The Centers for Disease Control dramatically lowered the Covid-19 Death Count

On August 30th the CDC released new data that showed only 6% of the deaths previously attributed to Covid-19 were due exclusively to the virus. The vast majority, 94%, may have had exposure to Covid-19 but also had preexisting illnesses like heart disease, obesity, hypertension, cancer and various respiratory illnesses. While they died with Covid-19 they did NOT die exclusively from Covid-19.

4) CDC reports Covid-19 Survival Rate over 99%

The CDC updated their “Current Best Estimate” for Covid-19 survival on September 10th showing that over 99% of people exposed to the virus survived. Another way to say this is that less than 1% of the exposures are potentially life threatening. According to the CDC the vast majority of deaths attributed to Covid-19 were concentrated in the population over age 70, close to normal life expectancy.

5) CDC reveals 85% of Positive Covid cases wore face masks Always or Often

In September of 2020 the CDC released the results of a study conducted in July where they discovered that 85% of the positive Covid test subjects reported wearing a cloth face mask always or often for two weeks prior to testing positive. The majority, 71% of the test subjects reported always wearing a cloth face mask and 14% reported often wearing a cloth face mask. The only rational conclusion from this study is that cloth face masks offer little if any protection from Covid-19 infection.

6) There are inexpensive, proven therapies for Covid-19

Harvey Risch, MD, PhD heads the Yale University School of Epidemiology. He authored “The Key to Defeating Covid-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It” which was published in Newsweek Magazine July 23rd, 2020. Dr. Risch documents the proven effectiveness of treating patients diagnosed with Covid-19 using a combination of Hydroxychloroquine, an antibiotic like azithromycin and the nutritional supplement zinc. Medical Doctors across the globe have reported very positive results using this protocol particularly for early stage Covid patients.

7) The US Death Rate is NOT spiking *(see chart below)

If Covid-19 was the lethal killer it’s made out to be one would reasonably expect to see a significant spike in the number of deaths reported. But that hasn’t happened.

According to the CDC as of early May 2020 the total number of deaths in the US was 944,251 from January 1 – April 30th. This is actually slightly lower than the number of deaths during the same period in 2017 when 946,067 total deaths were reported.

8) Most Covid-19 Deaths Occur at the End of a normal Lifespan

According to the CDC as of 2017 US males can expect a normal lifespan of 76.1 years and females 81.1 years. A little over 80% of the suspected Covid-19 deaths have occurred in people over age 65. According to a June 28th New York Post article almost half of all Covid suspected deaths have occurred in Nursing Homes which predominately house people with preexisting health conditions and close to or past their normal life expectancy.

9) CDC Data Shows Minimal Covid Risk to Children and Young Adults

The CDC reported in their September 10th update that it’s estimated Infection Mortality Rate (IFR) for children age 0-19 was so low that 99.97% of those infected with the virus survived. For 20-49 year-olds the survival rate was almost as good at 99.98%. Even those 70 years-old and older had a survival rate of 94.6%. To put this in perspective the CDC data suggest that a child or young adult up to age 19 has a greater chance of death from some type of accident than they do from Covid-19.

Taken together it should be obvious that Covid-19 is pretty similar to typical flu viruses that sicken some people annually. The vast majority are able to successfully fight off the virus with their body’s natural immune system. Common sense precautions should be taken, particularly by those over age 65 that suffer from preexisting medical conditions.

The gross over reaction by government leaders to this illness is causing much more distress, physical, emotional and financial, than the virus ever could on its own. The bottom line is there is NO pandemic, just a typical flu season that has been wildly blown out of proportion by 24/7 media propaganda and enabled by the masses paralyzed by irrational fear.

State and local governments in particular have ignored the rights of the people and have instituted outrageous attacks on freedom and liberty that was bought and paid for by the blood and sacrifice of our forefathers.

Slowly the people are recognizing the great fraud perpetrated on them by bureaucrats and elected officials who have sworn to uphold rights and freedoms as spelled out in the US Constitution. The time has come to hold these criminals accountable by utilizing the legal system to bring them to justice.

Either we act now to preserve freedom and liberty for our children and future generations yet unborn, or we meekly submit to tyrants who crave more power and control. I will not comply!"
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/october/28/nine-covid-facts-a-pandemic-of-fearmongering-and-ignorance/
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Last night on Fox, Donnie Jr. said covid deaths are almost down to zero; whereas over 1000 Americans per day are dying of covid. That little turd needs to be arrested.

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Oct 30, 2020 11:22:22   #
Rose42
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Not that bad, would you undertake any activity where your chance of dying was 5 out of 200? Think about what your saying before posting dumb bromides. What's left of ACP's brain has already dissolved.


Why do you troll?

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Oct 30, 2020 11:36:22   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
But you backed a standing president who lied several times, remember the 'you can keep your doctor, you can keep for health plan and the average family would save $2500!





kemmer wrote:
Last night on Fox, Donnie Jr. said covid deaths are almost down to zero; whereas over 1000 Americans per day are dying of covid. That little turd needs to be arrested.

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Oct 30, 2020 11:37:08   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
ACP45 wrote:
You are long on "feeling" and short on fact. Why don't you address the specifics of the 9 points mentioned. Point out to me where they are wrong rather than simply saying "dumb" "irrational" or "sick mind".



Only one point is of importance.. most of the states in our country are having a strong resurgence of the covid. right now!... Look at nearly any state and view the latest figures.. wisconsin, Minnesota included.. at least 38 of our states and I think more in this morning report..

It is not a make believe bad cold. if anything deaths have been under reported at least in the first several months..

It is very real and kills people.. the refusal to take any common sense precautions or call it a hoax is so foolish only an orange fool would do so..

Just to add,,, now my little girls life partner has it.. down in Tennessee or Kentucky.. he is manager of two operations in that area now.. he tested positive, got sick the hospital only was admitting severe cases so he runs the operations via phone from his truck.. he dose have a mild case.. good thing.. he sleeps in a room he rented for a full month with the agreement of the cabin owner that knew he was sick.. etc.. he will be responsible for clean up when he is cleared. he is in his 40s and no underlying problems.. he will be OK..

but he is self quarentened, will not return home until cleared by the doc..

OH, the operations are laying cable for internet etc.. nationall y so he works all over the country.

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Oct 30, 2020 11:39:07   #
Seth
 
Rose42 wrote:
Why do you troll?


Best answer, zen: Because he exists.

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Oct 30, 2020 11:41:00   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bmac32 wrote:
I don't believe anyone said it's scam, it's just not as bad as the media it making it out to be. Remember Chicken Little?


Get serous... 230,000 dead in just 8 months.. that is not a minor sick day ...



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Oct 30, 2020 11:44:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bmac32 wrote:
But you backed a standing president who lied several times, remember the 'you can keep your doctor, you can keep for health plan and the average family would save $2500!


As has been posted near a hundred times.. at the time President Obama made that statement, it was true.. but changes were made trying to gain republican support and as the norm, a lot of good things were dropped.

and while republicans demanded changes, they refused to vote for the finished product.. normal....

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Oct 30, 2020 11:56:03   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
And you know for a fact it's ONLY from COVID. In 2018-2019 between 26,000 and 53,000 people died from the flu in the US alone.






permafrost wrote:
Get serous... 230,000 dead in just 8 months.. that is not a minor sick day ...

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Oct 30, 2020 12:58:19   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
Lonewolf wrote:
1000 day of covd


***1000 day of covd

>>>Learn to read the whole story.

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Oct 30, 2020 13:00:14   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
lpnmajor wrote:
You think the whole world is in on this conspiracy? Seriously, you need to seek professional help.


***You think the whole world is in on this conspiracy? Seriously, you need to seek professional help.
>>>No, they are victims to fake news and the panic hysteria of politicians who are more interested in covering their own asses then in their citizens.

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Oct 30, 2020 13:02:01   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
ACP45 wrote:
You are long on "feeling" and short on fact. Why don't you address the specifics of the 9 points mentioned. Point out to me where they are wrong rather than simply saying "dumb" "irrational" or "sick mind".


That is all he knows how to do.

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Oct 30, 2020 14:27:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bmac32 wrote:
And you know for a fact it's ONLY from COVID. In 2018-2019 between 26,000 and 53,000 people died from the flu in the US alone.


Over 230,000 died from covid in 9 months, just in the US..

If someone has a preexisting condition, is alive and fairly well, then covid hits them and kills them, it is without doubt that the covid did the killling..



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